Today's Dev Chat Highlights
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Posted on: 2011-05-26 19:42 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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All the spastic OMG do NOT SP MEH!!!! people rejoiced.|
Originally Posted by Von Krieger
A new, god-like NPC with incredible power is being added, where you will be able to set your preference for having the movement portion of buffs active or inaction, |
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I am trying to imagine a costume piece that I would pay 20 e-merits for. It's not exactly springing to mind. Maybe if 20 e-merits unlocked costume codes? I'd pay that to run around as a KoA all the time.
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this is so convincing
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Originally Posted by CactusBrawler
For the first time ever the Devs have acutally made me consider unsubbing.
I'm already sick to the teeth of the incarnate trials and I've only tarted up two characters.Grind, grind and more grind, what happened to the Dev team we used to have? |
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This.
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Originally Posted by Zortel
With Auras locked behind Incarnate Content, Locked Per Character, and Locked out of the Character Creation screen, they might as well not exist for me, because it's just going to be a huge amount of frustration.
Keep the Acension armour for 50's and unlocked by merits. I'm okay with that, as long as it doesn't become ubiquitous. Those auras though? Those lovely, amazing new auras? Do the art team a service and let everyone experience them. They're hardly Incarnate-centric. |
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So I am one of those who support the cosmetic stuff for lvl 50s only... but the cost for this is INSANE! 20 Empyrean Merits? Its hard enough just trying to get a trial going, then hard enough just to unlock the slots, THEN getting enough salvage to craft the damn things. NOW youre telling me I have to choose one or the other or grind for a long time.|
Originally Posted by Von Krieger
Highlights from today's Dev Chat:
-Merit Costs for cosmetic items: Mentioned as "20 Empyrean Merits for the really high stuff, but most of it is a lot lower." Also "Entering beta, so is subject to change." |
Bad move devs. Bad move.
Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd another thing!
Am I the only that has thought up the idea that Illusion Control's Phantom Army should have the option of creating duplicates of yourself (sans your powers, that would be too powerful) instead of of some random generic NPC's? It is illusion afterall... "Here Bad guys! Which one is the real me? Mwhahaha!"
They can do it, just check out the new Posi TF!
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"Now"? They've been telling you to grind these trials 'til your eyes bleed since April 5, 2011.
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Originally Posted by Teeko
NOW youre telling me I have to choose one or the other or grind for a long time.
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Haha true that!
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Originally Posted by Lazarillo
"Now"? They've been telling you to grind these trials 'til your eyes bleed since April 5, 2011.
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Effing A. All I have to say about this costume crap.
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Or you could do both at once and accept a slower rate. Run the trials and use the components to get incarnate powers and use the merits to buy other stuff.
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Originally Posted by Teeko
So I am one of those who support the cosmetic stuff for lvl 50s only... but the cost for this is INSANE! 20 Empyrean Merits? Its hard enough just trying to get a trial going, then hard enough just to unlock the slots, THEN getting enough salvage to craft the damn things. NOW youre telling me I have to choose one or the other or grind for a long time.
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-Merit Costs for cosmetic items: Mentioned as "20 Empyrean Merits for the really high stuff, but most of it is a lot lower." Also "Entering beta, so is subject to change."
Bolded for emphasis. Not all of the costume bits and auras will cost that much (in fact, the majority of them won't) and even then these prices are still subject to change.
And who knows? Maybe the 20 Emp merit bit unlocks the entire Ascendant Armor set, instead of just a few Emp merits (or Astral merits) for 1 of new new auras. We'll just have to see how it pans out.
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I agree, it is effing awesome.
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Originally Posted by Xzero45
Effing A. All I have to say about this costume crap.
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We've been saving Paragon City for eight and a half years. It's time to do it one more time.
(If you love this game as much as I do, please read that post.)
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Originally Posted by Emberly
I am trying to imagine a costume piece that I would pay 20 e-merits for.
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Originally Posted by Teeko
So I am one of those who support the cosmetic stuff for lvl 50s only... but the cost for this is INSANE! 20 Empyrean Merits?
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This was how I took it also. I was thinking that 20 E-merits would be for IO recipes, not the costume options.
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Originally Posted by M_I_Abrahms
Don't forget that the costumes are not the only things offered at the new stores. They also sell IO recipes, and I'd be willing to bet that it's one of those that costs 20 Empyrean Merits more than any costume piece.
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I haven't watched the entire video, but what exactly was said in the chat? Because the transcribed bullet point clearly states that the 20 E merits is for a cosmetic item. This, of course, could be an error in transcription.
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Originally Posted by Zyphoid
This was how I took it also. I was thinking that 20 E-merits would be for IO recipes, not the costume options.
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20 for each piece, or 20 for the entire set?
For a full set that's reasonable.
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I took it as he was replying to the general range of costs in the system, which includes more than just aesthetic items.|
Originally Posted by SilverAgeFan
I haven't watched the entire video, but what exactly was said in the chat? Because the transcribed bullet point clearly states that the 20 E merits is for a cosmetic item. This, of course, could be an error in transcription.
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He said "The really high end stuff would be say 20 e-merits." As he said stuff, and not costumes I figured he was referring to the content of the system as a whole.
The upside, is the devs can be reasonable when it comes to costs. The inf cost on component conversion was lowered (just not enough imo), so they have shown they are willing to come down.
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Agreed. I also think the price for costume pieces is way too high (so far). I am glad the unlock is account-wide but the price is still too high. |
Originally Posted by CactusBrawler
For the first time ever the Devs have acutally made me consider unsubbing.
I'm already sick to the teeth of the incarnate trials and I've only tarted up two characters.Grind, grind and more grind, what happened to the Dev team we used to have? |
I really wish the devs would poll us on items being added. This recent bunch of stuff is pretty weak. The canon/lore/story behind these trials is beyond weak.
I do like the look of the new costume pieces and it is about time we got something added. Outside of booster packs, we haven't had much at all lately.
It also may help if Tin Mage and Apex rewarded iXP and incarnate salvage drops at a reduced rate (compared to the trials). It would be an alternate to the trial grind.
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They were eaten by grues and replaced with even cooler devs.|
Originally Posted by CactusBrawler
For the first time ever the Devs have acutally made me consider unsubbing.
I'm already sick to the teeth of the incarnate trials and I've only tarted up two characters.Grind, grind and more grind, what happened to the Dev team we used to have? |
On a more serious note, have you ever considered that the intention was never to let you "tart up" every single 50 that you have? I'd say that having two or three that are kitted out in the month and a half since I20's launch is a pretty fair rate of getting stuff done.
Don't like grinding? I know this is a radical notion, but don't grind. Where's the fire? If you're sick to the teeth of the Incarnate trials, stop doing them! How about working on some task forces? ("But there aren't any task force teams!" Make one! Since this is such a huge problem, surely you can find seven other people who are sick to the teeth of Incarnate trials!) Or roll up an alt on one of the new servers available to you? Or god forbid, how about hopping over to Atlas Park and running a costume contest or something?
Trust me, as someone who deliberately took about a year and a half to get his first level 50 character, all that stuff you think you're "missing" will still be there when you're ready. And you can't use the excuse that "I can't participate in high-level content," because per your own admission, you already have two "tarted up" level 50s.
You people really need to get out of this mentality that you have to have everything RIGHT. THIS. SECOND. I mean, you don't have to, but I can imagine that it would be quite miserable always operating in that mode, and it just seems so needlessly frustrating to me. Here's a little perspective. It will probably take me six months to a year to get my first "tarted up" level 50 character. At that point, do you know what the difference between yours that you got in two weeks at the expense of going insane whilst grinding and mine will be? Not very damn much.
We've been saving Paragon City for eight and a half years. It's time to do it one more time.
(If you love this game as much as I do, please read that post.)
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Originally Posted by TonyV
They were eaten by grues and replaced with even cooler devs.
On a more serious note, have you ever considered that the intention was never to let you "tart up" every single 50 that you have? I'd say that having two or three that are kitted out in the month and a half since I20's launch is a pretty fair rate of getting stuff done. Don't like grinding? I know this is a radical notion, but don't grind. Where's the fire? If you're sick to the teeth of the Incarnate trials, stop doing them! How about working on some task forces? ("But there aren't any task force teams!" Make one! Since this is such a huge problem, surely you can find seven other people who are sick to the teeth of Incarnate trials!) Or roll up an alt on one of the new servers available to you? Or god forbid, how about hopping over to Atlas Park and running a costume contest or something? Trust me, as someone who deliberately took about a year and a half to get his first level 50 character, all that stuff you think you're "missing" will still be there when you're ready. And you can't use the excuse that "I can't participate in high-level content," because per your own admission, you already have two "tarted up" level 50s. You people really need to get out of this mentality that you have to have everything RIGHT. THIS. SECOND. I mean, you don't have to, but I can imagine that it would be quite miserable always operating in that mode, and it just seems so needlessly frustrating to me. Here's a little perspective. It will probably take me six months to a year to get my first "tarted up" level 50 character. At that point, do you know what the difference between yours that you got in two weeks at the expense of going insane whilst grinding and mine will be? Not very damn much. |
Alternatively I can give my money to a different company that doesn't feel the need to ape WoW's end game.
Which I shall do.
Brawling Cactus from a distant planet.
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Fair enough. And when you're bored to tears because there's nothing left to do after a month or so, we'll welcome you back. Yes, we're just that cool.
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Originally Posted by CactusBrawler
Alternatively I can give my money to a different company that doesn't feel the need to ape WoW's end game.
Which I shall do. |
We've been saving Paragon City for eight and a half years. It's time to do it one more time.
(If you love this game as much as I do, please read that post.)
If you can only unlock the aura for one character, I think you should at least have a trial period to try it out. Like, you claim the voucher on the character and test it out, but if it doesn't fit like you thought it would, you can take the aura off of them and put the voucher back into the email and have someone else try it. After one of your characters keeps it for a certain amount of time, the voucher expires and you have it on that character permanently. The voucher would probably have to be some kind of salvage to achieve this though.
It just seems like too much of a pain in the neck to constantly have to copy your characters over to the test server every time you want to see if an aura looks good on a certain character.
Shadowblaze - Lvl 50 Dark/Thermal Cor, Alexander Kalsoa - Lvl 50 BS/Regen Scrapper, and a whole bunch of other Alts. Global is @Shadowblaze.
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The Incarnate (Empyrean/Astral) Merit Rewards are account-unlocked. Once you have one unlocked for one character on an account, you have unlocked it for all. You will need to be level 50 to use the Ascension Armor costume parts, but every character on the account will have it ready once they get to that level.
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Originally Posted by Dr_Darkspeed
So they aren't account unlocked? Thats disapointing.
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This reads to be in line with what the press release page says about these rewards. But something very different is articulated in the uStream when they describe something being sent via gleemail to your global account that will then be redeemed for any character you log in and claim that with.|
Originally Posted by Second Measure
The Incarnate (Empyrean/Astral) Merit Rewards are account-unlocked. Once you have one unlocked for one character on an account, you have unlocked it for all. You will need to be level 50 to use the Ascension Armor costume parts, but every character on the account will have it ready once they get to that level.
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At the very least, if the gleemail that is generated is perpetual--meaning you can claim it over and over on your full stable of existing characters--won't it expire after the same number of days that any gleemail with an attachment does?
I think these conflicting descriptions are what has caused some confusion and the resulting frustration and disappointment some people are expressing.
For the first time ever the Devs have acutally made me consider unsubbing.
I'm already sick to the teeth of the incarnate trials and I've only tarted up two characters.Grind, grind and more grind, what happened to the Dev team we used to have?
Brawling Cactus from a distant planet.