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Posted on: 2011-05-16 22:51 in Suggestions and Ideas
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Welcome Home!!
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Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba
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Why waste the time coding this into the forums just because people are stupid? GG and I both have ridiculous post counts. Everyone with a brain here knows that we have those for completely different reasons. Those without a brain can't be helped anyway. I see no issue that needs resolving. |
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We could have the option to post annonymously, and let the merit of our own words speak for itself, rather than reputation.
[Sarcasm] But really, McCarthyism is such a big part of forum discussions that it'd basically leave alot of forumlites without anything to say. How are they ever going to debunk a fop's surprisingly articulated post when they can't quote him back on something stupid he wrote in may of 2007? [/sarcasm]
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It's ok. Noyjitat is slowly becoming more ignorant himself. As we all are.
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Originally Posted by Zombie Man
The sad thing is, that by Noyjitat's Law, every post I make means I know even less about the game than before I posted. In fact, posting this post makes me even more ignorant of the game.
EDIT: It's true. I can't remember where Atlas Park is anymore! |
@Rylas
Kill 'em all. Let XP sort 'em out.
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Wow. Way to make a first impression. Not only is most of this just wrong, but I think you've also misrepresented someone.|
Originally Posted by Hoperise
This post is hilarious for a multitude of reasons.
First, Valk is an idiot. Not only was everything I said "apparently" taken out of context, but it wasn't in a global channel, so your little quip about "facts" had some extra "lol" value. It's not your post count that makes you pretentious, it's just you. Your post count only heightens your own opinions of yourself. O, and Samuel Tow? Holy hell is that guys post count a false impression of what he knows of this game. The fact you even made this topic just goes to show how retarded you are. |
1 post on the forum, and already quite pretentious. A perfect example of post count meaning nothing.
Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.
~Ralph Waldo Emerson
"I was just the one with the most unsolicited sombrero." - Traegus
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Ahh, but he clearly knows everything about the game as he only has one post count. It's all downhill from here.
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Originally Posted by Aett_Thorn
Wow. Way to make a first impression. Not only is most of this just wrong, but I think you've also misrepresented someone.
1 post on the forum, and already quite pretentious. A perfect example of post count meaning nothing. |
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Originally Posted by Tenzhi
Can I choose to like you despite the fact that we often disagree, and because your grumpiness, obstinance, and stubborn-ness is often entertaining?
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Originally Posted by Hoperise
This post is hilarious for a multitude of reasons.
First, Valk is an idiot. |
Valk - Valkyrierising. One of RO's leaders. Often leads teams, moderates the channel. Has been playing for years. Knows the game inside and out.
You - Yeah, I ran across you in game, broadcasting for a team. (Funny thing, getting your global - I can one-star you before seeing you "in person" in game.)
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| Not only was everything I said "apparently" taken out of context, |
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| It's not your post count that makes you pretentious, it's just you. Your post count only heightens your own opinions of yourself. |
You are, however, proving even more that "Someone without an argument is going to point at the other person having a higher post count."
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| The fact you even made this topic just goes to show how retarded you are. |
/golfclap
A winnar are you!
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Originally Posted by Aett_Thorn
Wow. Way to make a first impression. Not only is most of this just wrong, but I think you've also misrepresented someone.
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Haha even the responses from people here are hypocritical on this very subject! Way to go with the"first" time newbie shots.
Then YOU took it out of context, it is more about your pretentiousness (see this thread) than the post count.
Anytime in game you want to play the achievement game you let me know. And who cares if you have my global? You thinl i want to play with you?
You got so ate up about what some anonymous guy said you ran to your forum looking for support to help your grief. Way to go all-star. Pretentiousness proven.
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And yet you mention post count specifically as something you claim makes me think I'm more important. Multiple times. Even though a simple search will show otherwise.|
Originally Posted by Hoperise
Then YOU took it out of context, it is more about your pretentiousness (see this thread) than the post count.
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Oh, just so we're clear - it's not because of your post count. It's because of *you* and how you've chosen to act.
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| You got so ate up about what some anonymous guy said you ran to your forum looking for support to help your grief. Way to go all-star. Pretentiousness proven. |
And no grief. Merely trying to remove some of what you and people like you think is "ammunition" when you have no support and no actual argument.
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By the way, if I'm going to point out *anything* about myself to "show off," it's going to be things like the guides I've written, the help I give in game (and not just via the help channel - I've walked newbies through quite a bit) and the like. THOSE are the things I take pride in, as far as the game (including the forum) goes. What have YOU done?
I'm weeping from being ignored.
Was this all a big ploy to increase your post count? Lol
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/signed and for just this reason. I was so happy to see that stupid RATING system disappear .. you remember it. IF I agreed with everything you said .. you'd get all your friends to give me a high rating and I'd have like 4 stars or whatever.. then if I had to nerve to post something that even remotely disagreed with your "Expert" posts the next day my rating would plummet. Well the same is true of Post Counts just like Bill said. I have seen certain players on here who shall also remain nameless that will agrue a point to death and pad post counts by picking apart anyone's arguement against their view LINE BY LINE. Makes me wonder if they ever actually have time to play the game or if they have any sort of real life at all. |
Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
/signed for all the reasons listed by others, but if they don't do it for those reasons then at least get rid of post counts, forum titles, and join dates if for no other reason than to annoy the hell out of the people that use them to summarily dismiss anyone that disagrees with them.
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The reality is post count no more means anyone is right or wrong than VET badges. I have played with some 7 year Vets that had me wondering... "Did you BUY this account on Ebay? Cause you are playing like you have been here for 7 weeks not 7 years?" hehehe
�We�re always the good guys. In D&D, we�re lawful good. In City of Heroes we�re the heroes. In Grand Theft Auto we pay the prostitutes promptly and never hit them with a bat.� � Leonard
�Those women are prostitutes? You said they were raising money for stem cell research!� � Sheldon
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I see. Someone's account hopping in an attempt to avoid moderation. Only shame is I don't know his ingame global so I can join others in putting him on ignore ingame. His magnetic personality here has won me over and I now desire to join that exclusive club. |
Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill
This is also Cold_X. Go see what a charming individual they are.
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Off topic: I do enjoy watching Bill when he gets into these battles of wits with unarmed people.
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Oh I read Sam's posts, but I think I'm competitive. Plus, I had a streak of a couple years where I was regularly hitting the post character limit, and at one point any thread where I was posting simultaneously with Pilcrow was guaranteed to add another million characters to my total.
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Originally Posted by Ironik
I got two words for you: Samuel and Tow.
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
I see. Someone's account hopping in an attempt to avoid moderation. Only shame is I don't know his ingame global so I can join others in putting him on ignore ingame. His magnetic personality here has won me over and I now desire to join that exclusive club.
Off topic: I do enjoy watching Bill when he gets into these battles of wits with unarmed people. |
/grabs the comfy chair and big tub of popcorn
Yeah that can be entertaining.
/hands Forbin the popcorn and sits back to watch the fireworks!
�We�re always the good guys. In D&D, we�re lawful good. In City of Heroes we�re the heroes. In Grand Theft Auto we pay the prostitutes promptly and never hit them with a bat.� � Leonard
�Those women are prostitutes? You said they were raising money for stem cell research!� � Sheldon
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I don't know... you didn't exactly make this a long winded reply. You probably don't know what you're talking about then. I'm not going to consider this post unless it gets an edit and has at least 1,000 more words. And they better be 5 (or more) syllable words, too!
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Oh I read Sam's posts, but I think I'm competitive. Plus, I had a streak of a couple years where I was regularly hitting the post character limit, and at one point any thread where I was posting simultaneously with Pilcrow was guaranteed to add another million characters to my total.
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@Rylas
Kill 'em all. Let XP sort 'em out.
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As I mentioned previously, I've generally dialed back my replies for length, as measured by character count within the post. But in the past, my post size has averaged significantly higher magnitude character length; generally at least once per week I would post a message which exceeded five thousand characters. The original post character count limit is actually preserved within the Scrapper analysis, which was split in half due to that limit. The limit would have been reached within about one third of the end of the second post of that sequence. You don't see that sort of post from me these days, usually, even when doing a point by point response.|
Originally Posted by Rylas
I don't know... you didn't exactly make this a long winded reply. You probably don't know what you're talking about then. I'm not going to consider this post unless it gets an edit and has at least 1,000 more words. And they better be 5 (or more) syllable words, too!
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I do edit prior posts when there is information that is in error within them and I catch the error quickly enough, but since readers do not always go back and read edits or can easily detect them, if the error is caught after more than a few posts have been added to the thread I will post a correction post instead. This prevents stealth edits from changing content in a way people haven't read.
Edit: in this case, I didn't, except I did.
Unreasonable syllabication incontrovertibly discombobulates communication antediluvianly.
Also, since a picture is worth a thousand words, here's a puppy:
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Unreasonable syllabication incontrovertibly discombobulates communication antediluvianly.
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I accept your terms.
@Rylas
Kill 'em all. Let XP sort 'em out.
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You really do seem angry sometimes when people don't agree with you.
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Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill
Right. Because it shows you ingame, actual playing time right alongside post count. Or are you psychic? Perhaps you've hacked into PS's character databases and totaled the full time on each and every character on an account?
No? Then quit proving the addage about assuming. I've got, according to that, 25,000 posts. I also have - currently, according to CIT - 290-some characters. Some are new, with maybe 1 hour showing on them. Others have hundreds to over a thousand, and I know the time tracking is wrong on some of them. And that's not counting the ones I've deleted. I've played every AT, multiples of most. 26 50s. Played every powerset. PVPed, RP'd, worked on the original AE tutorials you'll find here and on the Wiki. You want to assume I know less about the game than someone with 5 posts, who signed up maybe a year ago and plays every other weekend for an hour? Solely because I have more posts? Doesn't that seem rather an *ignorant* assumption to make? But thanks, again, for proving my point about why being able to hide said count would be a good idea. It would work for both sides - keeping you from making such a silly assumption, and erasing any worry from someone with, oh, 5 posts that they "might be ignored" because of their lower count. Eliminating one distraction from actual discussion. |
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More like dealing with headaches from pounding my head on the desk when people don't seem to get what incredibly ridiculous assumptions they're making... sort of like "people with high post counts obviously don't play the game enough to be worth listening to."
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Originally Posted by Noyjitat
You really do seem angry sometimes when people don't agree with you.
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Wow. You're clueless. Regardless of your post count.
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Originally Posted by Noyjitat
Actually post counts are a good thing. I think post counts show who really plays the game and who is more a forum wh*r*. The mini man who rarely posts and spends more time playing the game is likely to provide better accurate feedback to developers. On some occasions people with higher post counts are the result of posting on cellphones or laptops while at work. But more often that's probably not the case.
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Wow. Way to be a class act. And to be called out by name when Bill specifically did not do so in the original post. Funny that you felt brave enough to do this after I told you I don't go to the forums and specifically that I avoid this area.|
Originally Posted by Hoperise
This post is hilarious for a multitude of reasons.
First, Valk is an idiot. Not only was everything I said "apparently" taken out of context, but it wasn't in a global channel, so your little quip about "facts" had some extra "lol" value. It's not your post count that makes you pretentious, it's just you. Your post count only heightens your own opinions of yourself. O, and Samuel Tow? Holy hell is that guys post count a false impression of what he knows of this game. The fact you even made this topic just goes to show how retarded you are. Wow. Way to make a first impression. Not only is most of this just wrong, but I think you've also misrepresented someone. 1 post on the forum, and already quite pretentious. A perfect example of post count meaning nothing. |
And no, I didn't take your comments out of context. I really wish my copy to file had worked. But I can definitely summarize the conversation.
You insulted Bill, not realizing he had friends on the team/league (I apparently didn't let Bill know that this wasn't in the global channel. He should have assumed it was because I certainly would have silenced you for directly attacking another player). You blamed him and "players like him" for the possibility that Interface Reactive will be nerfed.
I asked you why you named Bill. The reply was essentially (paraphrasing you here) that he wrote long posts, frequently posted incorrect information, was mean, that he thought he was better than others because of his post count, and that people went along with what he said based on said post count.
Let's just say that I went from being pissed at your first comment about him to laughing when you mentioned post count. I really don't know how I could have taken something out of context. It was pretty straightforward. It went on from there, but I pretty much disregarded everything else you said because you had already proven that it was personal and childish.
I told Bill about it to give him ****, since he had pissed someone off so badly that he was getting blamed for power nerfs. We found out why you were pissed off with him without too much difficulty.
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Originally Posted by Aett_Thorn
Wow. Way to make a first impression. Not only is most of this just wrong, but I think you've also misrepresented someone.
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Go go internet anonymity!
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Just because Memphis_Bill has a higher post count than me, doesn't mean people should be giving him credit for everything. After all, I found out about the DoT-amok thing also, and I might have even PMed the devs about it long ago. Just because Memphis_Bill has forum followers and time to post 2117 posts more than me, doesn't mean he knows more about the game than I do. Those extra 2117 posts translate to 35 more hours of time I've had to play City of Heroes or occasionally Angry Birds, and I've gotten really good at both playing Scrappers and avian physics in that time.|
Originally Posted by ValkyrieRising
I asked you why you named Bill. The reply was essentially (paraphrasing you here) that he wrote long posts, frequently posted incorrect information, was mean, that he thought he was better than others because of his post count, and that people went along with what he said based on said post count.
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Its players like us that struggle in anonymity, ignored because of the bias that exists against people with humble post counts under 24,000, that struggle day in and day out to nerf all the fun out of the game, while meanies like Memphis_Bill take all the credit. Next time this happens, you tell them that Memphis_Bill is *not* the only person trying to ruin City of Heroes: he's just the one trying to steal all the fame for ruining City of Heroes. In fact, dare them to name one power Memphis_Bill personally got nerfed. I bet he can't even name one part of this game he personally destroyed, whereas I can name three. And that's not even counting the way I ruined Martial Arts and made that set unplayable.
Sigh. Sometimes, it just doesn't seem worth it, trying to destroy the game while other people sit back and sweep up all the accolades.
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Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill
Post count's an odd thing.
I generally ignore it (barring "Hey, that's a nifty number coming up" - see also having 1337 posts and the like.) Yet it seems to be a target for people who I *dare* do anything but rain puppies upon and strew kittens in their paths for the five thousandth "we should be F2P! We need vehicles! This is a unique idea!" post. I was even informed of this by a friend *outside* of the forum - that in a certain global channel, someone who shall remain nameless not only was misrepresenting pretty much everything I'd said, but claimed (as though he had the slightest clue about me) that I held myself and what I said in some sort of high regard because of my post count. Let me put this bit on record: Post count means only *slightly* less when it comes to ranking what someone says than the color of their desktop wallpaper, and is about as relevant as the length of their nostril hair to anything in game. I. Don't. Care. That goes for *my* post count as well as yours. And that goes for Noobie McNooberson with 1 post all the way to the heavyweights such as Arcanaville or FatherXmas. My suggestion? Allow me to hide that post count (and anything associated with it, such as a title.) You want to disagree with me, fine. You want to dislike me because I'm stubborn, grumpy, obstinate and don't agree with you, pointing out what I see as flaws or pointing out minor, irritating *facts?* Fine. But let's give the option of removing a pointless, distracting target that we have in the form of post count. If I'm disagreeing with you, it's because I disagree. Not because I have X many posts. If I continue to argue with you, it's because you haven't convinced me, not because "you poor, foolish low post count person! Bow before my number!" The only numbers I'd suggest anyone bow before are those of our Queen of Maths, Arcanaville - and no, not her post count, either. So let me get rid of that little distraction. |
I'll be honest, it's something I've considered.
Post counts, to me, can cause divisiveness within a Community and that's something that we, as a Community, are better than.
Not pulling the trigger on anything, but it's rattling about in the brainbox.
Andy Belford
Community Manager
Paragon Studios
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You're only saying that because you have a low post count and want to seem more like a big dog around here...|
Originally Posted by Zwillinger
I'll be honest, it's something I've considered.
Post counts, to me, can cause divisiveness within a Community and that's something that we, as a Community, are better than. Not pulling the trigger on anything, but it's rattling about in the brainbox. |
Honestly, I never even look at them. Keep 'em, hide 'em, option it... doesn't matter to me.
I will say, to you Memphis Bill, that other people foolishly trying to use it against a person is not really a good reason to ditch them or anything.
To be honest... I kind of like having obvious things for people to leap to attack... you could call them jerk traps.
If someone displays such a mindset, they've revealed enough about themselves in a harmless fashion so as to avoid them further.
Works for everyone!
@Zethustra
"Now at midnight all the agents and the superhuman crew come out
and round up everyone that knows more than they do"-Dylan
and round up everyone that knows more than they do"-Dylan
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Sure, first you take away my stars, and then my post count. What's next, my avatar? Wait, where's my avatar?|
Originally Posted by Zwillinger
Post counts, to me, can cause divisiveness within a Community and that's something that we, as a Community, are better than.
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The real problem is forum handles. Unique forum handles cause divisiveness, because they let people say "Arcanaville sux" and everyone knows they are referring to me. If everyone was "Arcanaville" then no one would know who they were referring to when they said "Arcanaville sux" because it could be me, or any one of the other hundred thousand Arcanavilles.
Think about how democratizing it would be if we were all Arcanaville. Everyone could claim to be the great and powerful Arcanaville. When the devs only listen to Arcanaville, that would still be everyone. No one would be more right, or more wrong, than Arcanaville. Going Rogue would have a special shout out to everyone. And everyone would have a unit of time named after them.
You probably could have saved some grief during the universal server merge, if only you implemented the Arcanaville forum merge at the same time. And if not, at most only Arcanaville would have been complaining about it.
And they say community coordination is hard. You just need to reduce the problem to its simplest form. And if everyone was Arcanaville, that's about the simplest form of community possible.
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But I'm not the only one (yet)
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one
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Last time I got attacked, it was for my name.
Most of the time I get attacked, it's because I had the audacity to loudly disagree.
While I have seen the post-count-matters posts, I don't think it would really change anything for them to go away, other than the fact they were gone.
Personally, I would much prefer that all graphics were forbidden.
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