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Posted on: 2011-05-16 22:51 in Suggestions and Ideas
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Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba
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Why waste the time coding this into the forums just because people are stupid? GG and I both have ridiculous post counts. Everyone with a brain here knows that we have those for completely different reasons. Those without a brain can't be helped anyway. I see no issue that needs resolving. |
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Actually post counts are a good thing. I think post counts show who really plays the game and who is more a forum wh*r*. The mini man who rarely posts and spends more time playing the game is likely to provide better accurate feedback to developers. On some occasions people with higher post counts are the result of posting on cellphones or laptops while at work. But more often that's probably not the case.
Now if you wanted an option to hide your post count then that's up to you.
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It think it's more the case than you'd think. I, for one, only post when I'm at work, and can't be playing the game.
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Originally Posted by Noyjitat
Actually post counts are a good thing. I think post counts show who really plays the game and who is more a forum *****. The mini man who rarely posts and spends more time playing the game is likely to provide better accurate feedback to developers. On some occasions people with higher post counts are the result of posting on cellphones or laptops while at work. But more often that's probably not the case.
Now if you wanted an option to hide your post count then that's up to you. |
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Don't get me wrong forums are a fun thing at times. I think most of my posts are either when a good debate or argument occurs or when I'm waiting on a trial or tf to start.
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Originally Posted by Noyjitat
The mini man who rarely posts and spends more time playing the game is likely to provide better accurate feedback to developers.
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The ones who seem to have the most knowledge of the game also have much higher post counts.
You see, talking about the game (on the forums) means one is engaged in learning about the game.
Folks who play a lot but almost never come to the forums often have unusual ideas about how the game actually works. Their perception bias never gets challenged by a larger data pool or by folks who've done real and rigorous testing, or by info that comes from the Devs.
Of course, the reverse is not necessarily true that those with high post counts have better knowledge of the game. Especially if their high post count comes from counting to 10 thousand in a forum games thread.
Keep track of those who give correct and accurate answers to those asking questions in Player Questions. They tend toward higher post counts.
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Originally Posted by Noyjitat
Actually post counts are a good thing. I think post counts show who really plays the game and who is more a forum wh*r*. The mini man who rarely posts and spends more time playing the game is likely to provide better accurate feedback to developers. On some occasions people with higher post counts are the result of posting on cellphones or laptops while at work. But more often that's probably not the case.
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I think if "wrong" were distance, you'd be orbiting another galaxy with this post.
Though you are a *perfect* example of the attitude I'm talking about in the original post. Using post count to make ANY sort of assumption about what the person says, their experience/knowledge, etc.
Would Arcanaville, for instance, be any "more" or "less" right if she only had, say, 10 posts? Why would you make an assumption based on that, versus what she *says?*
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A lot of people have very weird ideas about how this game works, but at least the people who express that on the forums find out those ideas are weird. People in-game don't find that out unless and until they voice them on a global channel or broadcast, and they are usually much more indignant about it in-game.|
Originally Posted by Zombie Man
Folks who play a lot but almost never come to the forums often have unusual ideas about how the game actually works. Their perception bias never gets challenged by a larger data pool or by folks who've done real and rigorous testing, or by info that comes from the Devs.
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Part of the problem seems to be that while some players will concede that the way the game works in general might be different than what they know, the way the game has worked for them is the way they know, as if the game is something mysterious that can work differently for different players. Unfortunately, that too is usually wrong.
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True story: someone long ago once told me that I only thought other people would believe what I had to say because of my excessive post count of twenty eight hundred posts. I've come to believe that post count is what you attack when you run out of things in the post to attack and you want to attack the poster, and you just don't know the poster well enough to have good material to land. Someone who's been around the forums even for a few minutes would at least hit me for being too focused on numbers, or being a suck up to the devs, or having a cult, or being literate, something like that. |
Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill
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I think if "wrong" were distance, you'd be orbiting another galaxy with this post. Though you are a *perfect* example of the attitude I'm talking about in the original post. Using post count to make ANY sort of assumption about what the person says, their experience/knowledge, etc. Would Arcanaville, for instance, be any "more" or "less" right if she only had, say, 10 posts? Why would you make an assumption based on that, versus what she *says?* |
But I think the guy with nine posts will accuse the guy with forty seven posts of spending too much time on the forums if they run out of things to say. It means exactly that much, and is exactly that funny.
Besides, everyone knows its not post count, but word count that matters. Unfortunately the boards don't track word count, or I would currently be the Supreme Overload of the forums.
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and I don't agree with you.... It's all False....Nope not you!
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Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill
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The only assumption that I make when it comes to post count, is that the poster has more free time on their hands than I do.
AND IT MAKES ME JEALOUS!
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Besides, everyone knows its not post count, but word count that matters. Unfortunately the boards don't track word count, or I would currently be the Supreme Overload of the forums.
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately. |
Zombie Man, Arcanaville, GG, BillZ, Mempshi Bill, Aett, EvilGecko, BrandX, Sam, Techbot, and Forbin all post instead of playing the game. Therefore I know more than them about CoH.
Those with post counts less than mine(everybody else that has posted in the thread so far) are n00bs and haven't been around long enough to question me.
Now you should all pay your respects to MunkiLord, King of the Forums.
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Fighting a nuclear war of wits when armed with a spatula comes to mind when I read some of those posts.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
True story: someone long ago once told me that I only thought other people would believe what I had to say because of my excessive post count of twenty eight hundred posts. I've come to believe that post count is what you attack when you run out of things in the post to attack and you want to attack the poster, and you just don't know the poster well enough to have good material to land. Someone who's been around the forums even for a few minutes would at least hit me for being too focused on numbers, or being a suck up to the devs, or having a cult, or being literate, something like that.
But I think the guy with nine posts will accuse the guy with forty seven posts of spending too much time on the forums if they run out of things to say. It means exactly that much, and is exactly that funny. Besides, everyone knows its not post count, but word count that matters. Unfortunately the boards don't track word count, or I would currently be the Supreme Overload of the forums. |
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I dont know that them personally. I dont really know any of the people in this thread. But I'll still likely pay more attention to the opinions of one that spends less time on the forums and more time ingame. And few posts are the easiest way to gauge that short of adding an hours spent on the forum instead of total posts.
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Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill
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I think if "wrong" were distance, you'd be orbiting another galaxy with this post. Though you are a *perfect* example of the attitude I'm talking about in the original post. Using post count to make ANY sort of assumption about what the person says, their experience/knowledge, etc. Would Arcanaville, for instance, be any "more" or "less" right if she only had, say, 10 posts? Why would you make an assumption based on that, versus what she *says?* |
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Originally Posted by MunkiLord
Zombie Man, Arcanaville, GG, BillZ, Mempshi Bill, Aett, EvilGecko, BrandX, Sam, Techbot, and Forbin all post instead of playing the game. Therefore I know more than them about CoH.
Those with post counts less than mine(everybody else that has posted in the thread so far) are n00bs and haven't been around long enough to question me. Now you should all pay your respects to MunkiLord, King of the Forums. |
(Of course its a joke. Practically everyone with Empath and Immortal will have similar stats. I just happened to notice I crossed that mark this weekend. Interesting to note: the game has only been live for about 62000 hours. In actuality, about 2000-2500 of them are real play: it took my main 908 to get to 50, a number still burned into my memory.)
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Right. Because it shows you ingame, actual playing time right alongside post count. Or are you psychic? Perhaps you've hacked into PS's character databases and totaled the full time on each and every character on an account?|
Originally Posted by Noyjitat
I dont know that them personally. I dont really know any of the people in this thread. But I'll still likely pay more attention to the opinions of one that spends less time on the forums and more time ingame. And few posts are the easiest way to gauge that short of adding an hours spent on the forum instead of total posts.
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No?
Then quit proving the addage about assuming.
I've got, according to that, 25,000 posts. I also have - currently, according to CIT - 290-some characters. Some are new, with maybe 1 hour showing on them. Others have hundreds to over a thousand, and I know the time tracking is wrong on some of them. And that's not counting the ones I've deleted. I've played every AT, multiples of most. 26 50s. Played every powerset. PVPed, RP'd, worked on the original AE tutorials you'll find here and on the Wiki.
You want to assume I know less about the game than someone with 5 posts, who signed up maybe a year ago and plays every other weekend for an hour? Solely because I have more posts?
Doesn't that seem rather an *ignorant* assumption to make?
But thanks, again, for proving my point about why being able to hide said count would be a good idea. It would work for both sides - keeping you from making such a silly assumption, and erasing any worry from someone with, oh, 5 posts that they "might be ignored" because of their lower count. Eliminating one distraction from actual discussion.
No, M_B, he proved my post true far more than yours.
Be well, people of CoH.
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You have a high post count, so I agree with you!
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Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill
My suggestion?
Allow me to hide that post count (and anything associated with it, such as a title.) You want to disagree with me, fine. |
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Besides, everyone knows its not post count, but word count that matters. Unfortunately the boards don't track word count, or I would currently be the Supreme Overload of the forums.
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I'm generally for adding customisation options to just about anything, but the real question is how easily can they do this sort of thing with their current software? If it's a simple matter that's unlikely to shatter the boards, then by all means they should do it.
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Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill
You want to dislike me because I'm stubborn, grumpy, obstinate and don't agree with you, pointing out what I see as flaws or pointing out minor, irritating *facts?* Fine.
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What is especially impressive is that English is not his first language and that he seems to have flawless English (from what I recall)... I wonder if he would write even MORE were this forum in his native tongue?|
Originally Posted by Ironik
I got two words for you: Samuel and Tow.
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*shudders*
LOL
The sad thing is, that by Noyjitat's Law, every post I make means I know even less about the game than before I posted. In fact, posting this post makes me even more ignorant of the game.
EDIT: It's true. I can't remember where Atlas Park is anymore!
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Funny post count story (sorta).|
Originally Posted by Arcanaville
But I think the guy with nine posts will accuse the guy with forty seven posts of spending too much time on the forums if they run out of things to say. It means exactly that much, and is exactly that funny.
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I got into some silly debate about blaster mechanics on these forums a few years ago with one particular individual. Not really sure what it was about now, but it's not terribly pertinent (probably something about old defiance really). Anyhoo, I found the same sort of debate going on over at one of the MMO news site's forums and chimed in there too.
Apparently the same guy was up in arms both here and there and figured out it was me in both places (not terribly hard, I use the same avatar on most 'gaming' boards). Rather than actually debating the matter over there though they tell me how I obviously don't know how to play since I spend all my time on the forums and cited my post count over here.
I was kind of confused by that. Partly because I really have a fairly miniscule post count given how long I've been playing this game, but mostly because their post count on the other boards was considerably higher than what I had here combined with my nearly single-digit post count there ... in far less the amount of time.
It still boggles me that I was accused of spending too much time posting on the forums because of my 'high' post count ... by someone who had a higher post count.
Moral of the story: Sometimes people make absolutely zero sense.
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