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Posted on: 2011-05-16 14:30 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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I knew something was up with all those Dark Armor Scrappers and their Cloak of Darkness stealthing ability! Or using those mez toggles!|
Originally Posted by Leo_G
Tsk tsk.
It's thematically inappropriate for a Scrapper to hide behind ninja tricks. Just like's it's apparently non-thematic for a Stalker to carry a shield. |
Those dirty Scrappers, they're being so inappropriate! We should shun them all!
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I doubt that's why. The only offensive skills pulled from Stalker defense sets are PBAoE toggle damage which is rather useless. That's a far cry from the notion that Stalkers get no damage abilities in secondary sets.|
Originally Posted by bAss_ackwards
It is most likely that Shield Charge would be taken out though. Stalkers don't have any Damage abilities in their Secondaries except for Dark Regeneration and Soul Transfer, both of which are tagged for (trivial) Negative Damage. Probably by design to have difficulty against Typed Defense.
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Originally Posted by BrandX
I knew something was up with all those Dark Armor Scrappers and their Cloak of Darkness stealthing ability! Or using those mez toggles!
Those dirty Scrappers, they're being so inappropriate! We should shun them all! |
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Well hey, I'm waiting for Fiery Aura for Stalkers (no sarcasm, I am) but do you think they'd leave Burn in the Stalker set? What about Fiery Embrace? Blazing Aura is out, because that's a damage aura. I'd like the set on a Stalker, but I don't know how they'd change it.|
Originally Posted by Leo_G
I doubt that's why. The only offensive skills pulled from Stalker defense sets are PBAoE toggle damage which is rather useless. That's a far cry from the notion that Stalkers get no damage abilities in secondary sets.
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Where there's fire, there's smoke. Fiery Aura Stalkers!
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Originally Posted by Leo_G
Ah, so Cloak of Darkness provides anti-aggro? Better warn those aggro hungry Brutes using Energy Cloak/CoD they're doing it wrong.
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"Hey is that a guy coming at us?"|
Originally Posted by bAss_ackwards
Well hey, I'm waiting for Fiery Aura for Stalkers (no sarcasm, I am) but do you think they'd leave Burn in the Stalker set? What about Fiery Embrace? Blazing Aura is out, because that's a damage aura. I'd like the set on a Stalker, but I don't know how they'd change it.
Where there's fire, there's smoke. Fiery Aura Stalkers! GOODNESS! What in the world is Dark Armor doing on a Tank?! They're supposed to be getting all the aggro, not Cloak-of-Darkness-hiding from it! Someone tell the developers they've made a mistake! |
"No just some man shaped fire, let it pass."
"Ohh God the man shaped fire is punching me..with more fire!"
"It's a super villain why didn't we know?"
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Originally Posted by LISAR
"Hey is that a guy coming at us?"
"No just some man shaped fire, let it pass." "Ohh God the man shaped fire is punching me..with more fire!" "It's a super villain why didn't we know?" |
Obviously the hide component would increase your heat until you are just a heat haze.
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Easy. Replace Burning Aura with Hide.|
Originally Posted by bAss_ackwards
I'd like the set on a Stalker, but I don't know how they'd change it.
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That's it.
Don't know why anyone would think they'd do anything more since they haven't done any different with every other defensive set proliferated thus far.
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| GOODNESS! What in the world is Dark Armor doing on a Tank?! They're supposed to be getting all the aggro, not Cloak-of-Darkness-hiding from it! Someone tell the developers they've made a mistake! |
I was joking along with you. 
With the point you bring up - if there's no problem with Tanks having Dark Armor (and hopefully sometime in the future Energy Aura) because they can select the Concealment pool, then there is no problem with Scrappers getting Ninjitsu. 
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Personally I would love the new zone to simply be a "lightside" version of Grandville. That would save the Devs a tonne of time, just needing to re-texture and upgrade the graphics on Grandville to remake it as a Preatorian counterpart of the Primal version.
The only other place of Praetorian Earth not overwhelmed by Hamidon - a perfect, peaceful and totally naive society led by Captain Nice Fishy and White Crab, being infiltrated by evil Praetorians controlled by Emperor Cole. The tangle can be replaced by pretty Christmas lights and the gutter can be filled with chocolate rivers.
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No no no, keep going, I like it.
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Originally Posted by Dollymistress
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I don't see why they'd have to take Burn or Fiery Embrace out of Fiery Aura for Stalkers.|
Originally Posted by bAss_ackwards
Well hey, I'm waiting for Fiery Aura for Stalkers (no sarcasm, I am) but do you think they'd leave Burn in the Stalker set? What about Fiery Embrace? Blazing Aura is out, because that's a damage aura. I'd like the set on a Stalker, but I don't know how they'd change it.
Where there's fire, there's smoke. Fiery Aura Stalkers! GOODNESS! What in the world is Dark Armor doing on a Tank?! They're supposed to be getting all the aggro, not Cloak-of-Darkness-hiding from it! Someone tell the developers they've made a mistake! |
It's like you said, Blazing Aura is out, so Hide gets put in it's place. Nothing else needs to be removed.
BU -> Fiery Embrace -> Burn -> Assassin Strike -> Placate -> AOE or BIG ST Attack -> WIN!
Burn being a pet, my guess is it wouldn't break hide, just like Lightning Rod.
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I Want Stone/Stone Stalkers Dang it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!|
Originally Posted by LISAR
"Hey is that a guy coming at us?"
"No just some man shaped fire, let it pass." "Ohh God the man shaped fire is punching me..with more fire!" "It's a super villain why didn't we know?" |
THUMP THUMP THUMP
"What's that noise?"
"I see nothing..."
From the shadows......... ASSASSIN'S BOULDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Well, there's going to be some light music and a short note of apology saying, 'The universe ended last week, we're really sorry, we don't know what you're doing here, didn't you get the message?'"- Steve Moffat
Still better than Sonic/Sonic stalkers.
I would so delete my MA/Ninja stalker (soft-capped; lvl 43) and reroll as a MA/Ninja scrapper if they ported that set over. Please?
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Oh no no no, the developers made Grandville to train the Faithful. Heroes could not hack Grandville, that is, ones who never play villains at least. |
Originally Posted by Dollymistress
Personally I would love the new zone to simply be a "lightside" version of Grandville.
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Athough the idea of watching some diehard-anti-CoV friends venture into even a blueside Grandville would be pretty epic lols, come to think of it. ***EXECUTIONER'S STRIKE!*** Heeheehee
If the new zone has something to do with Praetoria and why there's so little magic there, like the devs have hinted, then it could be something quite left-field - like Cimerora was.
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I would love to see Carnival of light and Praetorian CoT as main factions for the new zone.
With revamped looks and those costumes ported to players, like they did with resistance, clockworks...
We need some magic in Praetoria.
It's thematically inappropriate for a Scrapper to hide behind ninja tricks. Just like's it's apparently non-thematic for a Stalker to carry a shield.
It is most likely that Shield Charge would be taken out though. Stalkers don't have any Damage abilities in their Secondaries except for Dark Regeneration and Soul Transfer, both of which are tagged for (trivial) Negative Damage. Probably by design to have difficulty against Typed Defense.
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