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Originally Posted by Tylerst
I'm guessing it's supposed to be Nightmare
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That, and farmers one-starring my arc for "terrible farm, lol"
I make arcs for a good story, and that seems to not be what AE is used for.
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Oink, oink. I was half-ready to post the list myself to show how dumb some of the filtered names are.|
Originally Posted by Tubbius
So where'd the Copyright List posted a few posts up come from?
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Like the one that brought this mess to my attention: A friend's arc was invalidated due to a character with "Victor" in the name.
Yes, that's right, now they're even banning common names used by Marvel characters.
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For additional silliness, about the only one of my arcs that was not affected was "Psychophage"...which is loaded with Gargoyles references.
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It seems to be a case of paranoid butt coverage on the part NCsofts legal dept. It's kinda understandable after the hassle they went though with Marvel.|
Originally Posted by IanTheM1
Oink, oink. I was half-ready to post the list myself to show how dumb some of the filtered names are.
Like the one that brought this mess to my attention: A friend's arc was invalidated due to a character with "Victor" in the name. Yes, that's right, now they're even banning common names used by Marvel characters. |
Whilst it is a possibility, I sincerely doubt that Marvel or DC would pursue legal action due to a custom character that shares a common name with one of its own. If that custom character bore a similar likeness to one of Marvel's or DC's characters with said name then there would be a case.
It has been pointed out in this thread that certain names are trademarked (not copyrighted) by various companies, as is the case with Marvel and Thor. However the fact that Marvel isn't the only company using Thor as a super hero (DC has their own version) leaves me pondering. The use of common/historical/mythological names or those otherwise in the public domain should not be restricted AFAIC.
In a perfect world we would be able to use names like Thor/Napoleon/Victor without issue. Only blatantly infringing names (i.e. D0ct0r D00m etc) and likenesses would be penalised. However due to the nature of this game, enforcing likeness infringement is a case of player and GM vigilance. Whilst this works in the case of player toons, the Devs, GMs and players can't be expected to go through every custom mob in every MA arc. It just isn't feasible.
Sadly this list of ever increasing absurdity is what we're stuck with. I'd recommend removing the common words and names from that list. If a copyright/trademark holder takes umbrage with particular a word/name, then add it.
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I'm aware, but it is a word first and a name second, much as everyone would like words to be copyright/trademarkable, but at least it seems the Devs are aware its a bit ridiculous.|
Originally Posted by Tubbius
"Bride" as in "The Bride," as in Kill Bill.
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| The recent problems stem from things being flagged as invalid that are not on the list, possibly names that are unavailable due to being already in use in-game, and invalid names being flagged as invalid when not being used as names. |
Thanks Z for the update, and Dr. Aeon if you are reading
Now i am scared to look at my arcs...
Can someone check for me if "The Night of the Fashion Dead" has died?
*hides bellow her bed, so the Copyright Monster dont find her*
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I'm so disgusted with this and the total lack of dev interest in MA that I've not logged on since I found out about the current inability to play several of my arcs for over a week now including the 2010 Best Hero Arc PC Winner that sits high up on page 3.
I was a computer systems manager for many years and later the supervisor of a large group people with that job. If you have inadequately tested a patch or upgrade and it creates problems for your user base you roll back the patch. Once you have determined the issue and taken steps to ensure the smooth implementation of the software/patch THEN you reapply it. You DO NOT burden your users with your mistakes. System management 101.
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Many thanks. Now that the information is freely available, it would of course be sheer perversity to play around with its restrictions.|
Originally Posted by Tylerst
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Perhaps the character name "I'm Spartacus" is free on one of the servers...
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I'd argue that (unfortunately) we aren't in quite the same situation. AE is a commodity that can be put on the back burner in favor of other things under the company umbrella. Primarily, we aren't the majority. Intriguingly, my comparison is how numerous companies can ignore a safety issue since they can do fine or even "save" money pushing that aside. Luckily we actually aren't that bad but it's essentially the same situation. I mean, they let Admiral Sutter TF get away with nuking people in hospitals for weeks and villains got screwed over with the Merit Rewards for Barracuda SF for months before anything was done. I will say I'm pretty sure that if the Incarnate Trials, ITF, or a new badge were affected then response time would be far faster. Then again, more people would be testing and catching those.|
Originally Posted by Wrong_Number
I was a computer systems manager for many years and later the supervisor of a large group people with that job. If you have inadequately tested a patch or upgrade and it creates problems for your user base you roll back the patch. Once you have determined the issue and taken steps to ensure the smooth implementation of the software/patch THEN you reapply it. You DO NOT burden your users with your mistakes. System management 101.
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And of course there's the silence. I mean, Zwillinger has been doing a great job as community rep but there's others who have been silent concerning AE in the public eye. Plus I'd argue that it takes a glitch of THIS magnitude for there to be a visible response.
But a rollback until the problem is fixed would be the simpler solution. It's just silly that half of AE is broken and has been for this long.
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Originally Posted by BackFire
But a rollback until the problem is fixed would be the simpler solution.
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...is it?
I say that because while this patch has hurt us massively, all those people farming iTrials would have a fit if their rewards were taken away to fix our problem. It sucks but I'm fully aware of just how low we are on the priority list. It can all be summed up with pointing at one feature request: increasing the number of purchasable arc slots from what it is now. A lot of things come down to money, yet Paragon Studios/NCSoft deems us as unimportant enough that we aren't even worth selling to.
Something else is that we don't have a big name supporting us. You, Bubbawheat, Lazarus, Wrong Number, and others do a lot for this community. However, that's not the same recognizability and clout that say Arcanaville or Zombie Man may wield.
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It sure should be if the installation is planned/done correctly. Rolling the TM/profane filter back to where it was before is not going to negatively affect anyone. |
Originally Posted by Zamuel
...is it?
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Check out one of my most recent arcs:
457506 - A Very Special Episode - An abandoned TV, a missing kid's TV show host and more
416951 - The Ms. Manners Task Force - More wacky villains, Wannabes. things in poor taste
or one of my other arcs including two 2010 Player's Choice Winners and an2009 Official AE Awards Nominee for Best Original Story
I think it's safe to say that the player reaction to this concern shows that players do indeed care about the Mission Architect and wish to see it carefully and correctly implemeneted, maintained, and controlled. If the people at NCSoft had any doubt of such, I'd hope that the amount of attention being paid to this by, at least, the players on this thread should show them that we, their gaming public and AE community, wish only the best for the tools placed at our disposal and for the game at large.
Thanks to NCSoft in advance for their continued vigilance in attempting to work out a solution. We don't know what's going on behind the scenes, but here's hoping they're working on a workable fix or set of fixes that can see this concern worked out to the best for all involved.
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While I don't participate on the Mission Architect forum itself very often, I'm actually a big supporter of the Mission Architect in general. The MA is also on Dr. Aeon's plate, and his influence rivals even my own at times.|
Originally Posted by Zamuel
...is it?
I say that because while this patch has hurt us massively, all those people farming iTrials would have a fit if their rewards were taken away to fix our problem. It sucks but I'm fully aware of just how low we are on the priority list. It can all be summed up with pointing at one feature request: increasing the number of purchasable arc slots from what it is now. A lot of things come down to money, yet Paragon Studios/NCSoft deems us as unimportant enough that we aren't even worth selling to. Something else is that we don't have a big name supporting us. You, Bubbawheat, Lazarus, Wrong Number, and others do a lot for this community. However, that's not the same recognizability and clout that say Arcanaville or Zombie Man may wield. |
If it will help, I'll be sure to specifically mention your request to have additional publishing slots theoretically purchasable to the devs at the next appropriate opportunity, although I suspect Zwillinger has already made a note of that request since he dropped into the thread.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
While I don't participate on the Mission Architect forum itself very often, I'm actually a big supporter of the Mission Architect in general. The MA is also on Dr. Aeon's plate, and his influence rivals even my own at times.
If it will help, I'll be sure to specifically mention your request to have additional publishing slots theoretically purchasable to the devs at the next appropriate opportunity, although I suspect Zwillinger has already made a note of that request since he dropped into the thread. |
The MA is on Dr. Aeon's plate? Could have fooled me.
Maybe I'm missing something but when was the last direct message from him to the AE community in recent times?
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The last contest. Which was shortly after GR release. The last message before that was regarding the Designated Helper system, I think, and most of the developer communication about that was with Black Scorpion.
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Originally Posted by Aura_Familia
LOL WHAT?
The MA is on Dr. Aeon's plate? Could have fooled me. Maybe I'm missing something but when was the last direct message from him to the AE community in recent times? |
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Check out one of my most recent arcs:
457506 - A Very Special Episode - An abandoned TV, a missing kid's TV show host and more
416951 - The Ms. Manners Task Force - More wacky villains, Wannabes. things in poor taste
or one of my other arcs including two 2010 Player's Choice Winners and an2009 Official AE Awards Nominee for Best Original Story
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Everybody right ow has Incarnate stiff on their plate, which doesn't leave room for much else. Whatever new shiny comes along will be crowding the old, whether it be power set proliferation or whatever other favorite pet topic you have (unless of course your fave pet is whatever the new shiny is, which is how a solid majority f people in the game are).
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Originally Posted by Aura_Familia
The MA is on Dr. Aeon's plate? Could have fooled me.
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Originally Posted by Clave_Dark_5
Everybody right ow has Incarnate stiff on their plate, which doesn't leave room for much else. Whatever new shiny comes along will be crowding the old, whether it be power set proliferation or whatever other favorite pet topic you have (unless of course your fave pet is whatever the new shiny is, which is how a solid majority f people in the game are).
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There is always going to be something new/shiny either in development or just launched and in need of attention. If that's the reason for no attention being given to MA, then please stop patronizing us and just say what we all already know: MA is not on anyone's plate. Sixteen months since the last non-contest DC. Getting close to two years since the last DC given by someone other than Dr. Aeon! How long does it take to post in the forums once in a while? Too busy to comment on critical issues to MA like the lack of slots or the problems with HoF. Too busy for that? Too busy to not run an annual event? Sorry, time to face the facts as distasteful as they may be.
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Check out one of my most recent arcs:
457506 - A Very Special Episode - An abandoned TV, a missing kid's TV show host and more
416951 - The Ms. Manners Task Force - More wacky villains, Wannabes. things in poor taste
or one of my other arcs including two 2010 Player's Choice Winners and an2009 Official AE Awards Nominee for Best Original Story
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I believe I did say about as much, yes.
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Originally Posted by Wrong_Number
There is always going to be something new/shiny either in development or just launched and in need of attention. If that's the reason for no attention being given to MA, then please stop patronizing us and just say what we all already know: MA is not on anyone's plate. ... Sorry, time to face the facts as distasteful as they may be.
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Can add Portal to the list of words on that list. I can certainly understand it, but I think that one is a tad bit too far.
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Now I'm not even sure, portal was my best guess. But I keep getting it telling me that Field Name has copyrighted/profane. So I dunno. Guess it may be because I use default Rularuu :x.
Yep, Im a tool, it was rularuu... Kinda lame that.
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That's really poor.
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