Copyright/Profane question


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Originally Posted by Tubbius View Post
It's apparently picking up on the "Iceman" in "Policeman," there, First Son.
This encapulates nicely the whole /facepalm nature of the filter.

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I could be wrong, but I'm going to add that the profanity/copyright filter seems to be hitting up Clue Descriptions now? I had no prior issues with this, but as soon as I moved ahead to try and test my arc, it cropped up. But the editor itself was saying 'No Errors', but I couldn't move ahead to actually testing.


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Just repaired 'The Rise of the Blood Countess'...

problems:

- Victoria Tennyson - vampire bride
It seems Victor is copyrighted (probably because of Victor von Doom). Renamed to Katherine Tennyson. A firstname in the list :S ?!

- Abomination Zombie ambush
First I thought it was because of the word 'bush' in 'Ambush'. But of-course it is 'Abomination' as that is a Marvel villain. They are renamed 'Blood Brute'. A bit far-fetched though.

Good thing I never used the name 'Dracula' even though he is mentioned in another way. That name is filtered too. Of-course 'Dracula' is now public domain as the rights are from a book over 100 years old.

Oh.. tip.. renaming the Abomination zombie ambush I learned that the filter goes as deep as file-names. The saved critter had the name 'Abomination'. When I renamed everything in the mission so you couldn't see the name anywhere... it still gave an error. I had to save the critter under a different name and then use that.


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Unless you count the farmers and powerlevellers.

What? Padding numbers is all they are good for. Might as well use that to our advantage when it suits us.
Obviously we need a new filter that includes the words "Fire," "Ambush," "Farm," and "Ticket." That'll get more AE users up in arms, right?


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Originally Posted by SuperOz View Post
I could be wrong, but I'm going to add that the profanity/copyright filter seems to be hitting up Clue Descriptions now? I had no prior issues with this, but as soon as I moved ahead to try and test my arc, it cropped up. But the editor itself was saying 'No Errors', but I couldn't move ahead to actually testing.
It's been doing that since day one of new filter, it flagged the word "disaster" in one of my arc clues title.

Also, yes the file name will flag too; currently a thing I had to pester support about until they told me about that. Hopefully I can finally get my Wickerwork arc fixed.


 

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Obviously we need a new filter that includes the words "Fire," "Ambush," "Farm," and "Ticket."
Make it so!


 

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Originally Posted by Tubbius View Post
It's apparently picking up on the "Iceman" in "Policeman," there, First Son.
Lol, I didn't see that hiding in there


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The word tangent is also blocked as being profane.
I'm guessing that is due to tang, which is the second syllable of one of those "bad words." And if that is the case, then that just shows beyond a shadow of a doubt how hopelessly retarded the profanity filter is.


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Can't use the word 'Avengers'.

Now, I know that the Marvel team is called this, but in context to supergroup names we use in THIS game (i.e, Paragon Avengers, Rhode Island Avengers, etc.), we can't use that name in context in AE, or use the term in a sentence like, "...that team acted like civic avengers against those street-spawned Hellions" (ok, it sounds corny,...give me a break; I'm still on first cup of coffee...), but you get the hint.

The word/term 'Avengers'/avenger has context and use beyond the Marvel single-word copyright, ergo, this really shoudn't be blocked.
The list needs to be wiped completely, and then replaced with a new list that contains only words that are truly considered profanity. After that, add words that are trademarked in the context of comics and literature, are not taken from public domain sources such as Dracula, Cthulu, the early John Carter of Mars books, Robin Hood, various mythologies, etc. and have no other common usage in any currently used language. In other words, if it is in the dictionary and not profanity, leave it alone.


 

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Obviously we need a new filter that includes the words "Fire," "Ambush," "Farm," and "Ticket." That'll get more AE users up in arms, right
This ~>
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Make it so!


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Add Sentinel to the list of words that are still forbidden. I can see why Sentinel by itself would be forbidden, but as a part of a multi-word name, it's ridiculous. I assure you that my Azure Sentinel is not in any way a giant mutant-hunting robot.


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Add Sentinel to the list of words that are still forbidden. I can see why Sentinel by itself would be forbidden, but as a part of a multi-word name, it's ridiculous. I assure you that my Azure Sentinel is not in any way a giant mutant-hunting robot.
This is further proof that cherry-picking exceptions is not going to work.

Red-letter Devs, PLEASE give up the ghost on this and just wipe the blacklist clean and start fresh with just the clearly profane words.


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It's been doing that since day one of new filter, it flagged the word "disaster" in one of my arc clues title.

Also, yes the file name will flag too; currently a thing I had to pester support about until they told me about that. Hopefully I can finally get my Wickerwork arc fixed.
Ouch...I'll try changing the file name and see if that has any impact...I've hovered around my story being about 90% done now for a couple of months thanks to these hangups. I hope it gets taken care of.


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Ouch...I'll try changing the file name and see if that has any impact...I've hovered around my story being about 90% done now for a couple of months thanks to these hangups. I hope it gets taken care of.
Changing the file name worked like a charm for me, the arc appears to be fixed. I was thinking it might be a bit more of a PITA to take care of this way, but it all fell into place.


 

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Just to be clear, I'm changing the name of the file as it appears in the AE interface or in my saved folder for such things?


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Just to be clear, I'm changing the name of the file as it appears in the AE interface or in my saved folder for such things?


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The name of the file from the AE editor window:
1) Change the name in the normal name blank. ("Lantern Warrior" becomes "Luminaria Warrior")
2) Instead of clicking the normal save thing you should instead look down at the bottom left for the button that says 'edit save path', then change the name there as well. (I change "[computery-file-name-stuff]/Lantern Warrior" to "[computery-file-name-stuff]/Luminaria Warrior")
3) It now should save ok.

If I recall exactly, what I did then was set the group chosen from WickerWork to a dev-group, then back to WickerWork and it all loaded up ok.

I think this works - it got rid of the error flags anyways; still haven't had a chance to play-test for make sure though.

EDIT: just played it, works fine now.


 

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"Crey" still seems to be verboten. I actually happened to get a red text warning show up briefly about "Countess Crey" -- dunno what I did to make it happen, maybe I said Dr. Aeon's name 3 times in a mirror, or walked widdershins around my laptop -- but anyway I couldn't republish because of my custom group, which also uses "Crey."

Mainly I don't want to monkey with my arc too much because the editor is also insisting on putting all of my custom mobs in slacks.


 

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I found it extremely bizarre that the filter thinks "nightmar" is a problem. Notice that's not "nightmare", but "nightmar". So by extension, I can't use words like "nightmare", "nightmarish", or even "nightmarianationism".
Yes, this is the one thing that's keeping my arc from working, and I don't want to change it because it's part of the title.

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Obviously we need a new filter that includes the words "Fire," "Ambush," "Farm," and "Ticket." That'll get more AE users up in arms, right?
What we need is to find some way where having our arcs broken by this filter somehow allows us to powerlevel, then it'll get fixed right away.



 

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"Crey" still seems to be verboten. I actually happened to get a red text warning show up briefly about "Countess Crey" -- dunno what I did to make it happen, maybe I said Dr. Aeon's name 3 times in a mirror, or walked widdershins around my laptop -- but anyway I couldn't republish because of my custom group, which also uses "Crey."

Mainly I don't want to monkey with my arc too much because the editor is also insisting on putting all of my custom mobs in slacks.
Ahhhh, that's why my arc is uneditable. It contains a custom Crey group. It still plays fine though, and the custom group is working fine and doesn't appear to be wearing anything they shouldn't, although the customs are in suits so if it put them in slacks it wouldn't matter too much (as a side note, the custom critters are called Security Agent and aren't actually part of the Crey Security custom group. Their base group is the default All Custom Characters, then I added them to the Crey Security group in the group editor. This allowed them to get through all the custom group bugs and patches unscathed, and may have saved them from the attack of the swear filter.)

Seriously devs, this going through and picking out wrongly flagged words one by one is stupid. A sweeping fix is needed.


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I just got LA Noire, so I'm playing that for a while, and I can't remember when my sub expires, but I'm not sure I'll be bothered to renew it when it does. If you don't hear from me again, if anyone asks, I left because of this fiasco.

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Originally Posted by Eva Destruction View Post
(as a side note, the custom critters are called Security Agent and aren't actually part of the Crey Security custom group. Their base group is the default All Custom Characters, then I added them to the Crey Security group in the group editor. This allowed them to get through all the custom group bugs and patches unscathed, and may have saved them from the attack of the swear filter.)
One of the custom mobs in my group (Rogue Crey) is named "Security Guard", so it would not surprise me in the slightest if "security" was also a banned word.

The group is actually a mix of customs and the in-game 45-50 Crey Tanks (Voltaic, Cryo, Power); I may end up having to rename those too.

I'm working on my laptop away from home; once I get on my home computer (which has the locally saved critter data) I'm hoping I can avoid the slacks issue and play around some more.


 

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I was able to get two of my three unplayable arcs back to playable. Doing so took a lot of time and effort.

One of these two arcs, got a bad rating while it was unplayable which knocked down its overall rating. If the person who rated it does not read the boards, I can't really blame them. What would you rate an arc that kicked you out the moment you clicked on the door?

I have two remaining issues:

- Wolf Spider Huntsman from the standard Arachnos is marked as copyrighted/profane
- A custom character of mine named Victor is marked as copyrighted/profane


I have seen some earlier posts that indicate Victor is a problem. While I am aware there is a Victor von Doom, my Victor has nothing to do with that Victor.

I could change my Victor to something else but my take on this issue is that we should only change our arcs if they truly violate copyright or they are profane.

I am not sure if the answer is buried in this thread, but does anyone know if Victor is on the list of mistakenly flagged names or is all use of Victor deemed taboo?


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Originally Posted by minimalist_NA View Post
One of the custom mobs in my group (Rogue Crey) is named "Security Guard", so it would not surprise me in the slightest if "security" was also a banned word.
I have some 'security' guards in one of my working missions, so I doubt that's it.

Also, seconding MCM, NOOOOOOOOOO! This is just one thing, don't let it get you down!


 

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I was able to get two of my three unplayable arcs back to playable. Doing so took a lot of time and effort.

I have seen some earlier posts that indicate Victor is a problem. While I am aware there is a Victor von Doom, my Victor has nothing to do with that Victor.

I could change my Victor to something else but my take on this issue is that we should only change our arcs if they truly violate copyright or they are profane.

I am not sure if the answer is buried in this thread, but does anyone know if Victor is on the list of mistakenly flagged names or is all use of Victor deemed taboo?
It explecity said that 'Victor' was not allowed and on the list in the error messega. That is why I changed my vampire bride 'Victoria' to 'Katherine'. It is farfetched to have a name like this in the filter. I am sure as hell not going to make a mob of Dr. Doom bots and calling them all 'Victor'! :S


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