MLP: FiM -- Superheroes with Hooves.


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Lately life has been stressful for me, and when I need to relax I've been watching episodes of that little show that everyone watches but no one talks about -- My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic. It's taken me a while, but I've figured out why I like the show so much, and it's not just the great characters, strong plotlines and terrific art direction.

It's the story of a superhero team.

I should have realized this before. It's a team of individuals each of whom has special abilities, and they all wear a visible insignia -- the cutie mark -- that symbolizes them and their powers. This is basic superhero storytelling.

The latest episode made it clear. They revealed the secret origins of all the main cast -- as in, how they received their cutie marks -- and the plotline is just like a silver age comic. When she pushed the limit of her natural ability to fly, Rainbow Dash created a sonic rainboom. This magical event touched the lives of the other five ponies and activated their powers. It was the White Event of the MLP universe.

Most importantly it flipped Twilight Sparkle from a shy youth who wasn't very good at magic into a chaotic, dangerous force. (And when she triggered and her eyes went all glowy, who wasn't thinking 'Super Saiyan'?) Princess Celestia immediately shut down the growing catastrophe, just as Professor Xavier shut down the adolescent Jean Grey. Unicorns can only do magic related to their cutie mark, but Twilight's cutie mark gives her magic itself as her special talent. Next to Celestia and her sister Luna, Twilight Sparkle is probably the third most powerful pony in all of Equestria.

(The rest of the main cast is up there in power level also. We have one pony that's super strong and durable, one superspeedster, one with control over all animals and...well, and Pinkie Pie, who is best described as the Scarlet Witch on ecstasy. Only Rarity gets the short stick in the power department; the ability to detect precious gems isn't really a combat skill.)

The rest of the show makes perfect sense in this light. In the pilot, when Celestia realized that a threat was looming that might take her out of commission, she arranged for Twilight to meet the other ponies whose powers were triggered at the same time as hers. (This is not speculation -- Celestia says as much at the end of the episode.) In so doing, the ruler of Equestria assembled a team that she hoped would be able to wield the Elements of Harmony, just as Celestia did 1000 years before. After the team formed, she calls on them whenever something threatens all of Equestria, such as the dragon in 'Dragonshy'. One of the team, or all of them assembled, should have the ability to handle any threat. (And they all try. As Dash says, "We tried persuasion, charm, and...whatever it is that Pinkie does.")

The main cast of My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic are the equine equivalent of the Avengers.

But what makes it so tasty is all the stuff that isn't presented, the story between the lines. Why does Celestia need to hide her special forces A-Team in a backwater town? What happened to Celestia's old team, the five other ponies that shared the Elements of Harmony with her 1000 years ago? When she played Prof. X to Twilight, did she put a block on the young filly's powers just as Prof. X did with Jean Grey? Did Celestia sense the Sonic Rainboom? (How could she not -- she controls the sun, which puts her a wee bit over Professor X in the power scale.) Was she monitoring all of the rainboom-enabled ponies, so that she knew exactly where to send Twilight to complete the team? Why did she wait until the threat was imminent? Does she not trust Twilight? And where is Luna -- she's been pardoned but has never to my knowledge been seen again.

What game is Celestia playing? And why is Equestria under assault at this moment in time?

Okay, I'm over-analyzing a children's show. But MLP:FiM is such a good show, and it shares so many epic storytelling tropes with the Superhero genre that I think we could learn a lot from analyzing it.

Plus, Pinkie Pie could totally take Batman. Discuss.


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In before we're told that My Little Pony isn't Comic And Hero/Villain Culture.

Only shows from the 1980s oriented towards boys count as geek culture, y'know?


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In before we're told that My Little Pony isn't Comic And Hero/Villain Culture.
(shrug) It wouldn't be the first time I've posted something on-topic that the moderators disagreed with. Maybe by making a reasoned argument I can pull them over to agreeing with me.

Besides -- Pinkie Pie versus Batman. How more epic and superheroic a battle can you get? She's like the Joker, but with all his sociopathic tendencies replaced by even more randomness.


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Perhaps if he were beaten up by a pony who is apparently empowered by something called a "cutie mark," Batman would finally learn some freakin' humility ...

You're right. This is an impossible scenario.


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You missed an obvious reference, actually. What school was Twilight Sparkle applying for? "Celestia's School for Gifted Unicorns". They are the C-Ponies, obviously. Twilight is Phoenix, she even bursts into flame when angry.

Also, Pinkie could totally take Batman. Her special power is that of the Looney Toon. Wild takes, teleportation, singing. Heck, she started a war once. By singing. "You gotta shaaaare! You gotta caaaare!" She's the Joker witout the evil. Random without malevolence. The only one who could throw Batman a surprise party, and it'd be an actual party, not a disguised death trap, much to Batman's confusion.


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In before we're told that My Little Pony isn't Comic And Hero/Villain Culture.
I get it, I get it. I'm leaving it up this time. Discuss all the ponies you want, people.
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Pinkie could totally take Batman. Her special power is that of the Looney Toon. Wild takes, teleportation, singing. Heck, she started a war once. By singing. "You gotta shaaaare! You gotta caaaare!" She's the Joker witout the evil. Random without malevolence.
Without evil? Did you not see when she threatened Twilight Sparkle's life in "Green Isn't Your Color?" How she plotted against Gilda? Pinkie Pie is CRIMINALLY INSANE.


 

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I honestly didn't even know My Little Ponies still existed...
Thought they went the way of Smurfs and Rainbow Brite and all the other 80's toys we destroyed growing up. (My sister hated me back then)

Here I was thinking a 30 year old man waxing philosophical about Pokemon was skirting the edge of acceptance...

For now though, I'll stick with Avengers and Batman: TBAB for my animated hero fix.



*Okay yes, that 30 year old Pokemon fan is me...


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Was she monitoring all of the rainboom-enabled ponies, so that she knew exactly where to send Twilight to complete the team? Why did she wait until the threat was imminent? Does she not trust Twilight?
Well, this is only conjecture, but... what was she supposed to do? Summon them all to Canterlot by royal decree, and go "okay, very soon, the Sealed Evil In A Can will awaken, and the world will plunge into eternal night unless you lot can all be friends by then. No pressure." Not exactly the best conditions for real friendship to grow, there. (Remember how nervous everyone was when she just dropped by for brunch?)

Instead, she waited for Twilight Sparkle to discover the prophecy of Nightmare Moon's return, then sent her to oversee preparations for the festival (preparations which were being led by four of the other five, ensuring that Twilight would meet them, and of course it was quite certain she'd run into Pinkie Pie at some point). And everything flowed smoothly from there.

We see in A Bird In The Hoof that Celestia has a pretty sharp sense of humor. It's fairly obvious both that episode and The Ticket Master were tests set up by her to let her young student and her friends learn some valuable lessons. She's a bit of a Trickster Mentor that way.




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Without evil? Did you not see when she threatened Twilight Sparkle's life in "Green Isn't Your Color?" How she plotted against Gilda? Pinkie Pie is CRIMINALLY INSANE.
Actually, Pinkie didn't plot against Gilda, she just threw a party. The traps were set by Rainbow Dash. As for threatening Twilight, wasn't that more a "Telling someone else's secret is the best way to lose a friend... FOR-EVERRR!" thing she had going? That and telling the laws of physics to shut up and go cry in a corner. Seriously, how did she get to the places she did? Pinkie Pie isn't evil, she just don't think things through all the time. Most of the time.

The dangerous one in the cast, as far as I can tell, is Fluttershy. Oh sure, she's timid, all-around nice, and good with animals. But she also tamed a manticore, made a huge dragon cry and stared down a cockatrice. She even made the rest of the casts protective of her. Seriously, don't mess with Fluttershy. She will make you sorry, or her friends will make you regret it.

Anyway, the new My Little Pony series is actually a pretty fun show in general. I was as skeptical as anyone would be at the idea of a good My Little Pony, but considering the people behind the series, I watched a few episodes. Then some more. Then the rest. It's just a good, honest, innocent story about cartoon ponies that somehow missed all the cynicism and irony that's so popular these days. Plus the animation is extremely good, and I'm not even going to say "for a Flash cartoon", even though it is made in Flash. It's just good.


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I get it, I get it. I'm leaving it up this time. Discuss all the ponies you want, people.
We have broken him!

First Ponies, then Videogames!

Then videogames about Ponies!

only once we can talk about videogames involving Ponies will we have truly won.


 

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Actually, Pinkie didn't plot against Gilda, she just threw a party. The traps were set by Rainbow Dash. As for threatening Twilight, wasn't that more a "Telling someone else's secret is the best way to lose a friend... FOR-EVERRR!" thing she had going? That and telling the laws of physics to shut up and go cry in a corner. Seriously, how did she get to the places she did? Pinkie Pie isn't evil, she just don't think things through all the time. Most of the time.
On the surface, she "just threw a party." But Pinkie is clever and can break the fourth wall; she knew Rainbow Dash had set up those pranks. All throughout the party she antagonized Gilda while letting Rainbow's traps go off, mentally unseating the griffon and making her angrier and more paranoid with each passing moment. And when the time came, she could deflect all the "blame" onto Rainbow Dash.

Also, she threatened Twilight when she pointed at her, and took a very slow, deliberate, menacing bite out of that apple. It was a clear threat, until Pinkie's short attention span had her focusing more on the apple than dealing with Twilight.

She also started a war with that horrible song of hers. A WAR.

And don't forget, this was a downtrodden pony who was made to farm rocks by her parents. Day in, day out, farming rocks under a stern and watchful eye. You ever notice that, after she led her parents and her sisters into the grain silo to "throw them a party," they're never seen from or heard of again in Ponyville except in her retelling? Think about it.

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Lauren Faust has already said that Luna will return in a later episode. I believe the studio has signed for a second season as well.


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I haven't seen enough of this series, mainly because I only randomly notice when an episode is on TV. But it's actually a decent series from what I've seen.

And call me weird, but when I was a young lad I used to stage epic wars between My Little Ponies and Care Bears that might have given the Transformer vs. G.I. Joe wars a run for their money.

MLP had a sizable comic run, and I believe it even had a relatively recent set of releases from Tokyopop. Knowing is half the battle!


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On the surface, she "just threw a party." But Pinkie is clever and can break the fourth wall; she knew Rainbow Dash had set up those pranks. All throughout the party she antagonized Gilda while letting Rainbow's traps go off, mentally unseating the griffon and making her angrier and more paranoid with each passing moment. And when the time came, she could deflect all the "blame" onto Rainbow Dash.

Also, she threatened Twilight when she pointed at her, and took a very slow, deliberate, menacing bite out of that apple. It was a clear threat, until Pinkie's short attention span had her focusing more on the apple than dealing with Twilight.

She also started a war with that horrible song of hers. A WAR.

And don't forget, this was a downtrodden pony who was made to farm rocks by her parents. Day in, day out, farming rocks under a stern and watchful eye. You ever notice that, after she led her parents and her sisters into the grain silo to "throw them a party," they're never seen from or heard of again in Ponyville except in her retelling? Think about it.
Concerning Gilda, I have a compelling argument that absolves Pinkie Pie and Rainbow Dash from any blame concerning whether or not it was a deliberately sabotaged party with evil intentions: Gilda made Fluttershy cry.

At that point all bets were off. Gilda should feel lucky that a prank filled party was all she got. Gilda just messed with the wrong pony.

As for Pinkie being almost militant about keeping secrets, to the point where she has elaborate rituals for it and makes thinly veiled threats to those considering breaking promises, it's easy: It's because they were Pinkie Swears. You may now groan at the awful stealth pun.


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As for Pinkie being almost militant about keeping secrets, to the point where she has elaborate rituals for it and makes thinly veiled threats to those considering breaking promises, it's easy: It's because they were Pinkie Swears. You may now groan at the awful stealth pun.
Instead of a groan i will give you a MLP FiM themed comic by Michael Poe:


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^ Shortly after that picture, Twilight was never found again. You do not decline an invitation to a Pinkie party.

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Concerning Gilda, I have a compelling argument that absolves Pinkie Pie and Rainbow Dash from any blame concerning whether or not it was a deliberately sabotaged party with evil intentions: Gilda made Fluttershy cry.

At that point all bets were off. Gilda should feel lucky that a prank filled party was all she got. Gilda just messed with the wrong pony.
True enough, although you're now realizing that, had Fluttershy really wanted to, she could've given Gilda THE STARE. It's like a mag 4 immobilize.


 

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True enough, although you're now realizing that, had Fluttershy really wanted to, she could've given Gilda THE STARE. It's like a mag 4 immobilize.
Fluttershy is pretty much a Ponies/Dark Mastermind. The only powers she got from her secondary were Fearsome Stare and Dark Servant (in the shape of a tiny white bunny named Angel). She let her henchmen take care of it.

Also, today's episode was funny. I see Spike has yet to learn one of the basic rules of fantasy adventuring: If you walk into a cave full of treasure just lying there, you leave the way you came in, as fast and quietly as possible. Even if you're a dragon yourself. Cute little owl, though.


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I. Wait, what? I thought that all this Friendship is Magic was popular in an entirely 'I watch it ironically' sense. The show is actually good?


 

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I. Wait, what? I thought that all this Friendship is Magic was popular in an entirely 'I watch it ironically' sense. The show is actually good?
Yes.


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I. Wait, what? I thought that all this Friendship is Magic was popular in an entirely 'I watch it ironically' sense. The show is actually good?
have not seen it myself, but the vibe i get is its in the powerpuff girls league. Stylized, clever and works on both kid and adult levels, someone on another forum listed some references they have caught, and it is nerd friendly to the level of coh paper missions references.


 

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I. Wait, what? I thought that all this Friendship is Magic was popular in an entirely 'I watch it ironically' sense. The show is actually good?
The irony is a trap. It lures people in to watch the first few episodes, and then you're caught.

But it is a genuinely good My Little Pony cartoon. Great animation, likable characters, excellent voice acting, fun stories, and a sense of innocence that's rare to see with TV these days. The show itself is unironically good, the irony is just inherent in that it's a My Little Pony show that's not just watchable, but pretty good, too.

Also if you're getting a Powerpuff Girls vibe off the show, you have a sharp eye. Lauren Faust who's more or less the evil mastermind behind Friendship is Magic was a writer for Powerpuff Girls and set out to make the first My Little Pony that is watchable both for kids and adults, with the idea that it'd be a show that dad can watch with his little girl. It just turned out that there are several adult animation fans that don't need an "I watch it with my kid" excuse to take a weekly trip to Ponyville.

I think Hasbro is downright confused at this turn of events, though. What on Earth are they going to do now that they've found that My Little Pony has a peripheral demographic that's 20-35 year old males? How do you sell My Little Pony toys to them? Granted, as problems go, it's not a bad one to have.


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Lauren Faust is also married to Craig McCracken, creator of the PPG.