If you are on a Mark or Ele run, you will receive the good ol' boot. No questions.
Just sayin
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Iggy_Kamakaze
I hate to be the bringer of bad news... but Willpower sucks!!! you're better off rolling a regen
 |
^Professional Katana/regen build thread
Ditto on any I lead.
Arc# 92382 -- "The S.P.I.D.E.R. and the Tyrant" -- Ninjas! Robots! Praetorians! It's totally epic! Play it now!
Arc # 316340 -- "Husk" -- Azuria loses something, a young woman harbors a dark secret, and the fate of the world is in your hands.
Glad I don't have to play on Victory.
"The side that is unhappy is not the side that the game was intended to make happy, or promised to make happy, or focused on making happy. The side that is unhappy is the side that is unhappy. That's all." - Arcanaville
"Surprised your guys' arteries haven't clogged with all that hatred yet." - Xzero45
me too
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Iggy_Kamakaze
I hate to be the bringer of bad news... but Willpower sucks!!! you're better off rolling a regen
|
^Professional Katana/regen build thread
so now we know and...
It is better to ask forgiveness than permission.
Same goes for any I lead. Oh yeah. That's right. Yeah. I said it. I lead a Lambda today. Heck 12 people. Easy, Peasy. (Of course it helped they all knew what the were doing but still.)
Something witty and profound
Quote:
i was on that one lol|
Originally Posted by Fista
Same goes for any I lead. Oh yeah. That's right. Yeah. I said it. I lead a Lambda today. Heck 12 people. Easy, Peasy. (Of course it helped they all knew what the were doing but still.)
|
i once led a complete random PUG of 13 to win lambda too, lambda is really not hard at all if poeple know what they are doing, that said, idc really if they go into the cutscene as long as they know they are very likely to die and will not run out of the place
Quote:
Seriously. Why even take the chance of bungling a trial at that stage?|
Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master
i was on that one lol
i once led a complete random PUG of 13 to win lambda too, lambda is really not hard at all if poeple know what they are doing, that said, idc really if they go into the cutscene as long as they know they are very likely to die and will not run out of the place |
If a trial fails because something goes hideously wrong...it happens.
If a trial fails because one person decides to be a complete tool...I have a problem with that.
Arc# 92382 -- "The S.P.I.D.E.R. and the Tyrant" -- Ninjas! Robots! Praetorians! It's totally epic! Play it now!
Arc # 316340 -- "Husk" -- Azuria loses something, a young woman harbors a dark secret, and the fate of the world is in your hands.
Quote:
the only poeple i usually see even go into the cutscene are Masque and Ele and maybe a few others whom i know will not mess things up|
Originally Posted by Defenestrator
Seriously. Why even take the chance of bungling a trial at that stage?
If a trial fails because something goes hideously wrong...it happens. If a trial fails because one person decides to be a complete tool...I have a problem with that. |
in most of the pick ups i joined, a large majority of the poeple just dont do that from what ive seen
Is it... really that big a deal? It's kind of stupid, I agree, and I would rather have those people inside with me. I know I'm running around trying to take out canisters or helping people out that are surrounded by mobs in there... and those mobs can lay down the hurt. It's seriously on par with spamming chat during the ITF cutscene... it got boring and pointless a long time ago.
Still, it's not the end of the world, and I don't really see it as being kickable.
Guide: Tanking, Wall of Fire Style (Updated for I19!), and the Four Rules of Tanking
Story Arc: Belated Justice, #88003
Synopsis: Explore the fine line between justice and vengeance as you help a hero of Talos Island bring his friend's murderer to justice.
Grey Pilgrim: Fire/Fire Tanker (50), Victory
Actually since, that one run, we don't cut scene jack.
Yes, GP its bad.... failing a trial because someone wants to jack a cut scene is stupid.
Quote:
As an example, I was just on a run where 4 (maybe 5) people went to the cutscene, and the other team still had a temp power to get. 5 people is a lot to bail on a phase before it is completed.|
Originally Posted by The_Masque
Actually since, that one run, we don't cut scene jack.
Yes, GP its bad.... failing a trial because someone wants to jack a cut scene is stupid. |
Best to just skip the cutscene "funny" and get the trial completed.
The ones I just ran we split into teams. And the first team done got to be in the cut scene.
Didn't seem to cause any problems.
;shrug
Quote:
We've always had it so that the team that finishes first goes and helps the other one.
|
Originally Posted by all_hell
The ones I just ran we split into teams. And the first team done got to be in the cut scene.
Didn't seem to cause any problems. ;shrug |
@JohnP - Victory
Quote:
It will only cause a problem if someone doesn't get out of the way fast enough/gets AV aggro. Since they are so close to the door, the AV could actually leave the area. That causes an immediate failure of the Trial.|
Originally Posted by all_hell
The ones I just ran we split into teams. And the first team done got to be in the cut scene.
Didn't seem to cause any problems. ;shrug |
The point of that stipulation is so people don't pull the AV outside, giving X amount of buffer room around from all the mobs/portal spawns.
Being in a cutscene isn't the issue per se. Though certainly reeks of "been done to death". As for however many people aren't helping the rest of the league is just annoying on top of it.
I've already forgotten about most of you
Quote:
It's an issue of monkey see, monkey do in that less informed players will attempt it and screw it up. Ideally everyone would have the good sense to dismiss pets before the cut scene or die if they draw aggro, but in practice it's better to eliminate the option altogether than trust the other thirteen players to not screw it up.|
Originally Posted by Grey Pilgrim
Is it... really that big a deal? It's kind of stupid, I agree, and I would rather have those people inside with me. I know I'm running around trying to take out canisters or helping people out that are surrounded by mobs in there... and those mobs can lay down the hurt. It's seriously on par with spamming chat during the ITF cutscene... it got boring and pointless a long time ago.
Still, it's not the end of the world, and I don't really see it as being kickable. |
(Really, though, I think Defenestrator's just mad our weapon storage team beat his training facility team during the infiltration phase last night.)
PenanceжTriage
Quote:
Awesome job leading Fista. Was able to unlock destiny finally on that run.|
Originally Posted by Fista
Same goes for any I lead. Oh yeah. That's right. Yeah. I said it. I lead a Lambda today. Heck 12 people. Easy, Peasy. (Of course it helped they all knew what the were doing but still.)
|
As for the issue at hand, I will venture a guess that it will mostly die down with the occasional odd player doing it. I get more upset on players not reading the League chat and would rather see them kicked instead of the cut scene people. But if you are leading, it's your call.
Quote:
Actually I was on the weapon storage team, only I went in to help the other team finish.|
Originally Posted by Patient_V
It's an issue of monkey see, monkey do in that less informed players will attempt it and screw it up. Ideally everyone would have the good sense to dismiss pets before the cut scene or die if they draw aggro, but in practice it's better to eliminate the option altogether than trust the other thirteen players to not screw it up.
(Really, though, I think Defenestrator's just mad our weapon storage team beat his training facility team during the infiltration phase last night.) |
And, really, you've nailed my big concern. One person does it on a trial, then the next trial 4 or 5 people do it. Then suddenly you have more attention-starved lemmings out there trying to get in on the act on the next run.
On any of these I will lead, I'll lay out the instructions for the phases, and include "Please do not enter the cut scene, as it can cause the trial to fail."
I will hope that people will respect that.
Arc# 92382 -- "The S.P.I.D.E.R. and the Tyrant" -- Ninjas! Robots! Praetorians! It's totally epic! Play it now!
Arc # 316340 -- "Husk" -- Azuria loses something, a young woman harbors a dark secret, and the fate of the world is in your hands.
A minor point to add, as you know, is that it is a tiny percentage of Victory players reading this forum regularly if at all. Maybe stressing in team chat or to the team leaders about what you want and don't want will reduce this further. But you guys are experienced leaders and know this already.
I will take all of these words of advice in the hopes of one day when I can look forward to people thinking enough of me to allow me to try to lead any of these down the path of utter frustration and ultimate failure. Wait, I mispelled success :S
KT, please play with me. How may I tempt you back to this game? 
I've already forgotten about most of you
Jumping in the cutscene? If im leading, and the other team has 1-2 more weapon crates to get, i may or may not head out to jump in the cutscene.
If im NOT leading, i dont dare.
I dont see the harm in it generally, BUT like handing a big bag of candy to a child, ppl can get carried away. There can easily be 5-6-7 ppl trying to cram themselves into the cutscene, aggro the AV, cause problems, fail trial.
Kicking peeps for doing the cutscene jack? Im a firm believer in: 'If you take the time to Form/Organize/Lead a team in a TF/SF/Tip mish/Trial ect ect, then you run it however you want." Kick who you want, boss peeps the way you want, run the task anyway you wish.
If ppl like it, they will follow you anywhere, if you come off as a jerk, ppl will stop joining you.
Truth.
Thats one more.................. For the good guys!
I must be confused. You guys keep talking about Lambda, right?
The only jacking during a cutscene I've seen is during the BAF one 
(I have never claimed to be funny or original. Can we stop calling it jacking now?)
I've already forgotten about most of you
i agree with helping teammates first. Last nights run with MP, there was an accidental person besides Masque and MP in the cut-scene. I know for a fact that it was completely un-intentional. It may happen as people will try to follow the more knowledgeable players to where-ever. If it is accidental, i would suggest a gentle warning. If the player does it consistently, then i could see kicking from a team/make note the player is looking for attention. I must admit when on an ITF and seeing us in the distance, it's still cool. I will let my co-horts know to not do this during Lambda. don't want my family to get blacklisted. 
PVE~* @Sunnysprite *~PVP *~SHI~Victory~JI~*Hawaiian Built*Ainokea*DaKine*H.I.C.*T&C
Just an FYI on the Lambda Trial.
Trying to be awesome and getting yourself into the cut scene means:
1) You are not inside helping your team.
2) You can actually cause the trial to fail if Marauder exits out the door.
Please do not partake in this behavior. Please do not encourage it.
Thanks!
Arc# 92382 -- "The S.P.I.D.E.R. and the Tyrant" -- Ninjas! Robots! Praetorians! It's totally epic! Play it now!
Arc # 316340 -- "Husk" -- Azuria loses something, a young woman harbors a dark secret, and the fate of the world is in your hands.