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Gave up after the mid-season break. Got tired of the father's refusal to make any attempt to conceal his identity and the general stupidity of most of the characters.
I almost went back to it, but then just never bothered. Best character was the bad guy who was dating the mom's assistant (don't remember anyone's names right now).
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That's pretty much my only complaint about the show... Jim wore a ski mask a few times, but then stopped for no explained reason.
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I liked the whole series...no idea why others haven't. Also the end of the season was awesome ^.^
I really have enjoyed the series and would hate to see it get cancelled when it looks like it's finally getting its legs ready for a big leap in direction.
It doesn't take itself too seriously too often, which was really nice. I think it helped folks get into the characters over the plot so that when the serious stuff did happen folks didn't balk at the implausability of some of it (doing comic book/super hero stuff in a live action show is hard to pull off without making it 'hokey'- so they ran with it a bit). I was more invested in the characters than their powers, which they have been growing into nicely (not just in use, but in acceptance and their responsibilities with them).
I think it's what Heroes should have been, or something like it anyway.
And yeah it's built up to a great finale!
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I rather enjoyed it. I hope it sticks around for a few more seasons.
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I enjoyed the series. I did find Jim's inability to hide his face a little bothersome, but he usually did super-acts with few people around, so I gave it a pass.
I didn't realize the other night was a season finale (it seemed like one, but they never let on in that it was). I have to say, it was the worst episode of the season. Too many things felt rushed and conveniently made up on the spot.
First, Dr. King goes from not being able to "not die", to suddenly having the whole family's powers by getting an extra injection. This made no sense with everything done on the show up to this point. When Stephanie received a shot, her power increased, she didn't exactly get new powers. And she certainly didn't get multiple new powers. It felt like a contrived way to add suspense.
Second, when Dr. King gets injected with the cure, his cancer comes back at an accelerated rate?? It makes no sense. If that's the case, then why didn't Joshua get his ailment back when he was cured (which took a much longer time to happen than with Dr. King)? It was mentioned his life was saved from receiving the injections, so whatever was causing him problems should have come back.
Third, the government shows up to ask for the family's help. Sounds nice and all, except that Stephanie saw a future in which Jim inadvertently exposed his powers and the government hunted them down to ultimately decide whether they should be killed or used as government property. This future was avoided, but suddenly we see that the government must have known about them all along?
If the show does come back, I'm concerned it's going to get the Hero's treatment. Great first season, then a complete mess after that.
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I think the difference is in how they were discovered, and by whom. In that grim future, Jim exposed his powers in public, which brought them to the attention of a different branch of the govt. than the ones that approached them at the season finale.
I'm betting the company was being watched/investigated by the branch that approached them in the season finale. This branch had a clue as to what was going on, but no evidence or confirmation of what exactly was happening. They got that proof with them breaking into the facility (remember there were lots of shots of them on camera... we were just led to assume it was all the building's security).
So the govt., knowing that this company is into "Crey level" naughtiness, sees this family fighting against them; a quick background check into who they are, and a trip to their house to say "Hey, we know they're up to some bad stuff, and you have the power to help us get them..."
They were approached differently because of how it played out.
As for Dr. King. He knows how this stuff works better than they do. Stephanie may have had more powers than she knew about for a short time and just never tried to use them, or perhaps it was the instability of Dr. King's own treatments that allowed the other one to have wild side effects. Either way I was letting that one slide; it was the boss fight of the end-of-season after all.
Also, Stephanie stabilized Joshua's condition before giving him the cure, or at least I seem to recall something to that effect being discussed, and she probably gave Dr. King a much higher doseage than she did Joshua.
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I enjoyed the series. I did find Jim's inability to hide his face a little bothersome, but he usually did super-acts with few people around, so I gave it a pass.
I didn't realize the other night was a season finale (it seemed like one, but they never let on in that it was). I have to say, it was the worst episode of the season. Too many things felt rushed and conveniently made up on the spot. First, Dr. King goes from not being able to "not die", to suddenly having the whole family's powers by getting an extra injection. This made no sense with everything done on the show up to this point. When Stephanie received a shot, her power increased, she didn't exactly get new powers. And she certainly didn't get multiple new powers. It felt like a contrived way to add suspense. Second, when Dr. King gets injected with the cure, his cancer comes back at an accelerated rate?? It makes no sense. If that's the case, then why didn't Joshua get his ailment back when he was cured (which took a much longer time to happen than with Dr. King)? It was mentioned his life was saved from receiving the injections, so whatever was causing him problems should have come back. Third, the government shows up to ask for the family's help. Sounds nice and all, except that Stephanie saw a future in which Jim inadvertently exposed his powers and the government hunted them down to ultimately decide whether they should be killed or used as government property. This future was avoided, but suddenly we see that the government must have known about them all along? If the show does come back, I'm concerned it's going to get the Hero's treatment. Great first season, then a complete mess after that. |
As for the government trying to asking to recruit them on one hand and hunting them on the other hand, there's a big difference between the government's reaction from learning about superbeings, and the government's reaction of the public learning about superbeings. In the future world where the family was exposed to the public and branded as terrorists, the government was still trying to recruit them as weapons, but with the public knowledge of the Powells, they just didn't have to be so nice about it.
The treatment didn't cure Dr. King's cancer just kept it at bay, he was dying during long exposures without the formula. They didn't really say what Joshua's terminal ailment was. As for what gave him more powers, I assumed Dr. King always had in his disposal all the powers possible, he just lied when he said that the formula only treated his cancer.
As for the government trying to asking to recruit them on one hand and hunting them on the other hand, there's a big difference between the government's rection from learning about superbeings, and the government's reaction of the public learning about superbeings. In the future world, the government was still trying to recruit them as weapons, but with the public knowledge of the Powells, they just didn't have to be so nice about it. |
Eh, if that's how you want to shore up the lack of writing for the show, go ahead. But it's just fanwanking as far as I'm concerned. When you establish how things work and then change it later so you can do whatever you want, it's just bad writing.
Everyone else who got an injection always got cured/healed. He's the one exception, and it's really for no other reason than they wanted to write him out of the show and couldn't think of a better way. Stephanie had a deadly infection, one person was a paraplegic, another was on his deathbed. You didn't see Joshua almost die from whatever must have been killing him before, he almost died from withdrawal. Did Daphne's BF's dad lose his legs again? If so, no one's talking about it. Did Stephanie show any signs of getting her seriously lethal infection back? Nope.
Then there's the fact that Joshua's powers faded out slowly. Dr. King loses all his powers at once and gets super cancer? It doesn't fit the established way things work, and it's just ridiculous. Same goes for criminals walking out of the crash with powers already. The Powell family didn't notice powers until they got back home. The doesn't fit the established way for receiving permanent powers.
If you have to assume Dr. King just had "a selection of powers" to choose injections for, then you're making a huge jump. It's never been shown you can designate a power someone gets, just that each person reacts differently to the serum. You're also doing the work for the writers if you have to make those kinds of assumptions.
The government reacting to public awareness and top secret information wouldn't be so drastic. If they wanted to keep the family hush-hush, they wouldn't have mentioned that they might consider the family a threat in the time travel encounter. Sure, to the public they might say one thing, but to the family that they already know about? It doesn't fly. Besides if the public knew about the Powell's, then there'd also be an uproar for their human rights. You might say there wouldn't, but has there ever been 100% agreement in those kinds of political matters? Especially in a case where the super powered person was revealed because they were saving a life. In private, without the public eye watching, the government wouldn't have to worry about "being nice" like they were in the finale.
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Look, I like the show. I really do. But the writing for the finale isn't anywhere near the quality of the rest of the season. Sure, it's a super hero show, and so certain things like physics can go out the window on occasion, but when you establish a rule of how things work, that can't be discarded.
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I think the last episode felt rushed, but I thought they set it up nicely for a good plot line in the second season (which I hope comes to exist).
I would bet money that the season was slated for a set quota of episodes, and the writers had to wrap up multiple plot lines in one 60 minute installment. If the powers that be decide that the show is worth continuing, a contract will probably be drawn up to include a larger number of episodes.
Things I want to see in Season 2:
- George ending up with a decent power that allows him and Jim to team up.
- A little more combat action from Stephanie.
- SOME KIND OF COSTUME FOR JIM! We've established that the same fictional heroes from our reality exist in theirs, so the need for super-powered beings to conceal their identities should be common sense by now.
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I'd like to see the series continue on. Though.. my boyfriend and I would watch it and sit there telling the father to hide his face.. or at least get one of those hats with a wig built in >.>
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as far as the gov reaction...
key differences... Public reveal and Jim attacked a cop and would have then been swarmed by cops. The immediate reaction would have been based on those things.
A private reveal to a government agency dedicated to national security and secrecy gets a hugely different reaction.
As far as "the cure" not "curing" well... You have to consider exactly what happens... basically, the serum gives you what you most want and heals you to some degree, killing infections and fixing any physical problems. A broken leg would be healed much faster. a spinal injury would repair itself. A deadly infection would be killed off. How is this done? Probably rapid cell regeneration... Would this cure cancer? Maybe some cancers but not all it could be argued that Dr. King's cancer cells were rapidly regenerating and due to the rapid regen of both normal and cancer cells his telemeres were extremely short and the cancer was extremely rampant, but one set of cells could hold the other at bay as long as the regen was in effect, once the regen wasn't in effect, the cancer cells, which already rapidly regen normally, would have taken over and because of the short telemeres he would have died.
Of course I don't think that they have an explanation like that, but you can work an explanation with cancer due to how cancer works...
As far as th new powers... the powers work pretty much based on what you want or what you think would be cool... I'd expect that he gave himself multiple injections and was wanting those powers at that time, controlling it to a degree...and technically he only needed one new power so whatever.
As far as th new powers... the powers work pretty much based on what you want or what you think would be cool... I'd expect that he gave himself multiple injections and was wanting those powers at that time, controlling it to a degree...and technically he only needed one new power so whatever.
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Look, the complaints I made weren't nit-picky bull **** complaints. It's just very bad story telling. What's more, it's not usual for the show. Rushed endings happen, but they could have killed Dr. King in a number of ways that didn't completely break away from show continuity.
Public reveal and Jim attacked a cop and would have then been swarmed by cops. |
Why wouldn't the agency that knows about them already be the one to come bring them in. If they're that privileged to know about them (which has never been alluded to) wouldn't you more than likely be able to claim jurisdiction over any other government group that is hunting them down that doesn't know about them? And then, of course, you have to ask why the whole family is hunted down when only Jim was the one to reveal his power?
Sorry, there's just to much of a mess from the two situations to just wave your hand with an explanation as contrived as the season finale was. If this was Smallville, I'd accept this as the norm (not that it makes things any better), but the show's been too consistent for the carelessness the finale had.
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I want to like this show -- it's superheroes, c'mon -- but the writing is terribly inconsistent. It started strong and then lost its way. Which is why it lost viewers, I think. The Dr. King character is easily the worst. He started out as a mastermind but ended up as a mere toady. It would've been much more interesting if he had been angling to take over the secret organization, with plots and plans working for and against people. Julie Benz is hot, sure, but his lusting after her seemed like a bizarre motivation for them to pull out of the hat like that.
What's oddest about the writing is that all of the secondary characters were far more interesting than the main characters. I would much rather watch a show about Joshua, Katie and George than the Powells. This was a decent attempt, but they dribbled out the storyline too long. You really need to pack stuff into today's shows, not drag them out the way Heroes did. So we're left with a feeling of "oh, what it could have been."
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I thought the show was cancelled? Does anyone know if there is gonna be a season 2 or not? I really want to see what George's powers are and the baby's.
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I'd give it another shot if she's gonna be a regular!
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For those of you who may not have seen the show at all or those who used to watch and gave up, Hulu is showing the season (and maybe series) finale. In it, things are changed a lot and the superhero quotient gets dialed up big time.
Be patient, give it the whole hour, and post what you think.
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