Are people catching on?

More and more, as I browse the market looking for a niche, I find that the recipe prices + salvage+crafting cost are nearly the same as the crafted item. Sometimes the recipe cost and crafted cost are the same!

Have more people "learned to market" as inflation has hit the game, or is the market being biased towards level 50 items due to all the 50s being run for incarnate content and shard hunting? Most of the sub-max level items aren't moving at all, comparatively.

(Note that I didn't look at purples other than a glance, as I can't afford to trade in them and have yet to have one drop.)

No this always happens when its been a long time since a new issue was released.

The semi-casual player has gotten their main and perhaps 1-2 other toons to the level shift.....perhaps decided to slot them up and such and has done what he/she planned for i19. That demand is gone and yet many of the remaining people don't need to slot their toons (the hard-core folks who were fully slotted and respec'ed for inate fitness 8 hrs after i19 went live) now yet still pop stuff.

I use these times to build stock for the surge that will come with the next issue.

Purples (which even hard-core folks might not be maxed out on for all their toons at least) are still rising significantly. They've been on a up 5-10% a week rise for 2 months now and havent stopped yet.

I won't mention was sets I was looking at (heh heh heh), but I haven't seen this, myself. I do have some mid-levels sitting on the market that haven't been moving like hotcakes, but my prices aren't too high so I can be patient.

It's definitely happening with the pmost popular sets. But there's still a lot of sets out there (or individual pieces within sets) that still have a significant markup.

The market is always geared towards level 50 or top level IOs, in sets that are popular.

I've been doing this for 3-4 years, I don't think enough people are ever going to "catch on" (or care enough to do so -- a lot of my friend fully understand how the market works but don't use it like I do).

So how much are the new insps going to go for? One billion? Two billion?
Should we even put them on the market?

Just about all of my staple level 50s that I sell via stacks bottomed out recently. Some came back at their normal price, but I couldn't sell them for the life of me. I even tried pulling one and reselling it lower only to see it sit despite it still selling at it's old price. I basically caved and resold everything. Oddly enough a lot of them sold at the standard price, but I was listing them at half of what I usually did. Eventually those prices dropped as well. You can make a profit from them, but not like I was use to. I changed the recipes that I targeted and business is back to normal if not better.

I've been hit hard because I'm too lazy to find new niches. All mine have bottomed out so my earnings have dropped to almost zero. Fortunately I don't have any toons in immediate need of goods, but I'm hoping things pick back up soon. Otherwise I might have to stop being lazy and that would suck.

For the inspiration that provides a +1 bonus level shift - how long does the effect last ?

Sales have been slower this week, but I'm still regularly making 20m-30m markups per sale.

If niches really were drying up on a large scale, and more people were catching on, then those same people would abandon their marketeering schemes for awhile -- and then the cycle would begin anew.

I'm sure there are a lot of people out there whose interest in the market waxes and wanes. Personally, I spent the first two and a half months or so of 2011 heavily invested -- making tens of billions in that span, largely on the usual-suspect, high-turn-around, level-50 recipes -- but I basically haven't touched the market since. Just don't have a lot of interesting places to spend money right now, given that Issue 20 is gonna encourage me to focus heavily on only two characters. (Which are already about as well-equipped as I can make them.)

There may well be a lot of people out there like me, who find themselves with a bunch of alts they no longer feel like maximizing (or are much more relaxed about doing it). We could see more and more of the market's money concentrated in very high-end items to reflect the game's new emphasis on a smaller stable of characters per player.

Leaving that vaguely self-indulgent bit of rambling aside, I think Enyalios hit the mark: We're in a lull right now as people prepare for Issue 20. Once the new freespecs hit, and once people start to get a better idea about what the new Incarnate slots will mean for their builds, I'm sure we'll see a lot of niches open up again.

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Originally Posted by Iggy_Kamakaze Nice build

I expect an uptick in marketeering with the new Incarnate Slots encouraging the use of the freespec that most assuredly will arrive sometime in April.

My niches haven't dried up exactly, but I've turned into a flipper instead of a crafter. I did it largely because in my niches, the margin between recipes and crafted IO prices shrank to much lower than the variability in the prices of both. Rather than changing niches, I simply changed tactics.


As with Obitus, my interest has waned, probably because I have more influence than I have places I care to spend that influence. I only have a couple toons I'm concentrating on now, and they're both almost maximized (one of them I'm still trying to get a few Hamios up to 53 instead of 50). So at least for me, yeah, my influence spending is concentrated on very high end items.

Also as he suggests, I'm not touching the characters until I20 goes live. I want to see how it plays out before making any changes.

I've had a few niches shrink- "40M to 65M" has become "25M to 40M" in one case- but not very many have gone away altogether. Purples are still comedically profitable for me.

EDIT: I'm not heavily into purples, though it's good money. I keep taking all my capital and investing in the Crazy 88s.

I have seen a few of my niches not really "dry up" but more like slowed down. I do tno market as much as I use to but what I do provides a steady stream of income. Since my Main Marketer is also My main toon I have been busy hording Shards and have not really concentrated on the market.

Go ahead. Undercut us.