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Posted on: 2011-03-18 17:54 in Comic and Hero-Villain Culture
Well it sounds like a fun movie to kick back with a lambic and popcorn to watch except that I loathe shaky cam. I mean LOATHE it.
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Stuff went boom! Money well spent.
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I thought the camera work and bad dialogue hurt this movie. It had a few nice effects shots but it didn't feel big enough to serve as the movie to kick off the blockbusters for this year. Hopefully Sucker Punch will be that movie.
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The shaky cam didn't bother me too much in this flick, I've seen some footage from Iraq where some soldiers have cams filming and it actually made the movie marines a little more believable for me. Unlike how shaky cam irritates the hell out of me in other shows.
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Originally Posted by TerraDraconis
Well it sounds like a fun movie to kick back with a lambic and popcorn to watch except that I loathe shaky cam. I mean LOATHE it.
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Ah if they patterned their shaky cam after real combat footage then it wouldn't be as obnoxious. I'll probably toss this into my netlix que and see it later.
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
The shaky cam didn't bother me too much in this flick, I've seen some footage from Iraq where some soldiers have cams filming and it actually made the movie marines a little more believable for me. Unlike how shaky cam irritates the hell out of me in other shows.
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There are times that shakey cam can make sense, so long as it is not overly shakey. This is one where it does make sense...to a point that is.|
Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
The shaky cam didn't bother me too much in this flick, I've seen some footage from Iraq where some soldiers have cams filming and it actually made the movie marines a little more believable for me. Unlike how shaky cam irritates the hell out of me in other shows.
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However, in shows like SGU where the majority of it takes place in a stable platform, shakey cam is hideous and unwarranted (especially when you are filming in a majority dark environment with lighting primarily on the characters, horribly nausea inducing).
From all the posts here, it sounds like this movie fits the comment my wife made about "Armageddon": "Bad science. Fun movie."
I'll probably catch this at a matinee or something.
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Well there's not much science in it at all really. Just explosions and bad dialogue.
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Originally Posted by sleestack
From all the posts here, it sounds like this movie fits the comment my wife made about "Armageddon": "Bad science. Fun movie."
I'll probably catch this at a matinee or something. |
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As mentioned, the water thing was just one scientist guessing. They certainly seemed to use water for fuel, but that doesn't necessarily make it the reason for coming. Maybe it was just a perk to find jet fuel lying all over the planet they chose for building their new intergalactic turnpike.|
Originally Posted by Dark One
1) Reason for the invasion. Water? That's it? You're going to spend your soldiers lives for water? When there's lots and lots of water, just in frozen form, lots of places (Oort Cloud, Europa, etc). They said it was because we had a lot of water in liquid form. They don't even go for the fresh stuff, but rather the salty kind. And even then, you could siphon off a lot of it by sticking your forces into the middle of the ocean, rather than right off populated cities.
3) Timing. This is a big problem in a lot of movies. How they go quickly from night to day and day to night (X-men 3, for example). Seems that in the space of five minutes they go from using night vision scopes to having a high noon shootout. 5) Construction speed. The invaders sure had that C&C facility built pretty quick for the time alloted. Especially given its size and placement. Seems to be a bit hand-wavey. Phew. Done. Feel free to pick that apart.  |
Timing: yeah, I noticed that too, but I tend to ignore that in movies.
Finally, I don't think they built the Command and Control unit there, I think they moved it there, possibly in pieces (much like the drones came together to make a bigger craft). Kind of in line with the way they used drones like tugboats to try to pull it to a new hiding spot.
Also, EXPLOSIONS! Wheeeee!
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[QUOTE=Starflier;3546876]As mentioned, the water thing was just one scientist guessing. They certainly seemed to use water for fuel, but that doesn't necessarily make it the reason for coming. Maybe it was just a perk to find jet fuel lying all over the planet they chose for building their new intergalactic turnpike.
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Given that they mentioned that the oceans were already showing measurable signs of dropping in the minimal time frame that they were there. I would also guess that it was essential for their life-type given, IMO, squidy-looking nature of the invaders. All that gear and surgically implanted mechanisms seemed be combo of life support + power + weaponry, to me.
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The C&C seemed a bit haphazard for a modular product. Even if it was brought in in pieces, that was hella fast construction especially given that they weren't in complete control of that area until well into the movie.
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Saw it.. DUG IT. Every last damn minute of it. Heck it did what SkyLine failed to do. (i.e. tell an alien invasion story from the side of a small group of characters you actually gave a damn about.)
Darn I thought you were going to say entertain people.
Hmmm... what if the aliens were really here to help us?
Maybe they were just passing by, and they heard about our problem with global warming and the melting ice caps, and they figured, "Hey, we should drop by there and drain off some of their excess water." Then we start shooting at them and the whole thing gets out of hand.
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Agreed cool popcorn flick, that said, would have rather seen the entirety of the earth subjugated, its resources drained and all all life forms reduced to spare parts for the invaders leaving the third mudball from the sun barren and lifeless. Nobody ever does a cool movie like that!
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Uhm. Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy. Vogons blow up the Earth and everyone on it.
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Uhm. Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy. Vogons blow up the Earth and everyone on it.
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Titan A.E.
When Worlds Collide
Beneath the Planet of the Apes
Oh... spoilers, I guess?
I'm sure there are others, but generally global disaster movies leave the planet standing, so to speak.
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
Uhm. Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy. Vogons blow up the Earth and everyone on it.
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Out of the three, I've never watched Titan A.E. - Was the entire human race wiped out?
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Titan A.E. When Worlds Collide Beneath the Planet of the Apes Oh... spoilers, I guess? I'm sure there are others, but generally global disaster movies leave the planet standing, so to speak. |
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Yeah but it wasn't an exact duplicate.
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Yeah, but they rebuild it
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Not entirely. But it is on the verge of extinction.
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Originally Posted by ebon3
Out of the three, I've never watched Titan A.E. - Was the entire human race wiped out?
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Everybody who was on the planet when it got zapped died, but there were survivors. What's your requirement here? Extinction or planetary destruction? Both? I'm sure there are a few global plague/zombie apocalypse movies that wipe out the populations with (relatively) little property damage. In Beneath The Planet of the Apes I believe all life on Earth was extinguished.
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Originally Posted by ebon3
Out of the three, I've never watched Titan A.E. - Was the entire human race wiped out?
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Originally Posted by Mental_Giant
Everybody who was on the planet when it got zapped died, but there were survivors. What's your requirement here? Extinction or planetary destruction? Both? I'm sure there are a few global plague/zombie apocalypse movies that wipe out the populations with (relatively) little property damage. In Beneath The Planet of the Apes I believe all life on Earth was extinguished.
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1. Earth subjucated, i.e. conquered by aliens.
2. All of Earth's resources taken.
3. All native forms of life used for "spare parts". (see food, used as parts for bio mechanical machines, or even unwilling organ/limb donors)
4. Earth left a barren dead planet.
Technically "Beneath the Planet of the Apes" doesn't count because the people that destroyed the Earth were mutated human beings. Even the Apes were terrestial in origin, and although there was time travel involved everything originated from Earth.
The movie was terrible. Now I'm not an avid movie goer and went with my brother since he is home from college but at one point I got up and left to use the restroom...and I took my sweet time. I was in no rush to return to the theater.
Terrible. 1.5/5
Late to the discussion, but put me in the "it delivered what it promised" category. Not aspiring to Oscar level film making, but a solid alien-war movie. Fun and enjoyable despite the over used wobble camera and hitting every cliche in the great-big-book-of-war-movie-cliches.
However, the one thing that tripped me up thinking through the scenario and my suspension of disbelief.... where the heck were our nukes. I know I'd be jumping up and down saying "what is a few cities, we're talking the human race here! nuke 'em, nuke 'em!" somebody somewhere would have tried it....
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