Fortune Ettiquette


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i really dont mind getting fortunes, although i seriously hate the dang popup

i usually give them out to other poeple, but i tend to forget most of the time, usually i only pass them around if were sitting around waiting for poeple to load or to start a tf ect


 

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Originally Posted by Schismatrix View Post
o.0 i cannot imagine any religion where this would be more objectionable than... well... most of the rest of the game's setting. It's not even telling a fortune, it's just a random buff with a game-themed graphic. Seriously, if they can play the game at all while finding that objectionable on religious grounds... *shakes head over the endless human capacity for selective perception and compartmentalization*
I think it has to do with the buff themed around tarot cards. I know people that think anything to do with tarot is evil and will avoid it at all costs. I don't have to agree with them to respect their beliefs.


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Originally Posted by Roughtrade View Post
That's like saying "Why would someone mind if I spit on their face. It will dry up and be gone eventually."
I honestly do not know how to respond to this ridiculous statement, so I'm just going to leave.


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Originally Posted by DarkGob View Post
Unless you don't want the buff, in which case just ignore the pop-up and it goes away on its own.
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That's like saying "Why would someone mind if I spit on their face. It will dry up and be gone eventually."
Sure it is. Sure it is. And that's why using the slap emote is just like walking up to someone on the street and hitting them in the face.
Oh, wait, it's NOTHING like that and your comparison is absurd.


Anyway, I use the Fortune on anyone who gives me one and, if it occurs to me, on any teammate that doesn't have one.


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Originally Posted by DocArcus View Post
I think it has to do with the buff themed around tarot cards. I know people that think anything to do with tarot is evil and will avoid it at all costs. I don't have to agree with them to respect their beliefs.
Thx, i didnt know why this person disagrees with getting their fortune read. I really didnt ask either because it just kinda surprised me.


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I think you should track down VoodooGirl and ask her, just make sure you don't read her fortune in the process.


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Originally Posted by DocArcus View Post
I think it has to do with the buff themed around tarot cards. I know people that think anything to do with tarot is evil and will avoid it at all costs. I don't have to agree with them to respect their beliefs.
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Thx, i didnt know why this person disagrees with getting their fortune read. I really didnt ask either because it just kinda surprised me.
Oh, i understand that some people have neuroses about things like a tarot card theme, but in light of all the other content in the game that should be far more objectionable to anyone who finds a tarot card theme morally offensive i just don't see how they could justify logging into the game long enough to object to the Fortune power. Well, other than the old stand-by of "as long as I don't actually see it at this very moment I can pretend it doesn't exist."


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Originally Posted by MaestroMavius View Post
I think you should track down VoodooGirl and ask her, just make sure you don't read her fortune in the process.
I Search-FU my forum/global handle nightly.

Every night.

And then I google it.

Anyways, this is what I feed random fortune readers to:



So keep that image in your mind the next time you see decide to randomly read someone's fortune.


 

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Whenever I play my /Kin, I ask the team, "Does anyone NOT want Speed Boost?" And if anyone does not, I don't Speed Boost them.

I happen to LOVE Speed Boost. But if someone does not want it, I don't try to convince them otherwise; I just don't Speed Boost them. I don't need to know their reason, nor do I need to think it is a valid one.

So it should be with Mystic Fortune. If they want it, let 'em have it; if they don't, don't do it. Simple as that. Why should anyone care if they do or don't?


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I usually announce "sending cards to the one below me", or just "sending cards", while we are at a door or in between missions. I avoid doing it in the middle of combat.

I also have keybinds for quick acceptance or denial, they work for any y/n popup (including those silly little "flavor text" boxes).

SHIFT+Y "dialog_yes$$dialog_answer Accept"
SHIFT+N "dialog_no$$dialog_answer Decline"

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If I'm on Virtue, and I am playing a character who has an origin and/or background for which mystical powers don't make sense, I never use it. Example - my sentient Clockwork has no magical abilities, therefore he can't cast fortunes.

If I'm on a character where it makes sense, or if I'm on a non-RP server, I'll buff the whole team if I need to. I rarely fdo drive-by fortunes unless it's in AP or Mercy on a low level character.


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Originally Posted by JKCarrier View Post
It's not a big deal to me, but I am a little surprised at how often a teammate will stop to read your fortune in the middle of a fight. I always think, "Really? Is that the most useful thing you could be doing at this moment?"
If I observe that a particular character is going to be vulnerable to whatever we're fighting, either by their play style or just a bad power match-up, you bet your sweet bippie I'll be hitting that fortune on them every time it comes up and the previous one wears off, whether in the middle of a fight or not.

Played this way the entire time Fortunes have been around, and zero complaints.

Generally, for ease of use on teams, I try to establish the "buff the guy below you on the list, last one buffs the first guy" rule. Then you only have to worry about one person, unless someone doesn't have the power at all.


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Originally Posted by Amish_Justice View Post
I'm curious to hear about people's tendencies with regard to fortune use.

The first big question is
"Is fortune always welcome?"

Are there some people who think the possible drawbacks of fortune (for example, I know fool can often lead to END problems on lower level characters) make it a risk they'd rather not take? Is it alright to use it in combat, or does the act of clicking on that button really piss someone off.

2nd Question
How should Fortune be given out?

Do you just always fortune someone if they fortune you? Or, since it offers a good chance of a damage boost (even if minor), does that mean you hit your damage dealers with it first? Or perhaps you just fortune anyone who's costume you like?
In a large group, do you always target whoever is first in the team menu?
Or do you use it on tanks or key team players?

Or is it just random?

I'd love to hear people's rationale, if they've thought about it, and have a perspective.
Would rather not hear from people who don't care.
If someone fortunes me, I'll fortune 'em back. If someone asks, I'll drop it. That's it really. If Fortune's not welcome, the player can always opt "no" for their answer.


 

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I guess I'm in the anti-fortune crowd, over-all. Without stirring up a ruckus,
I'll outline the reason's I don't like it, and usually decline it.

1> First and foremost, they make noise, a couple of which are really
irritating to me. (I haven't played a sonic toon since they first came out
for the very same reasons).

2> It lasts an hour of game time ... even if you log off and log back on,
which makes point #1 inescapable for that hour. There's no way to get
rid of it until it fades out on its own (afaik).

3> I'm a solo player and, in general, don't particularly need the buff - my
toon, by build design is already self-sufficient. The irritation of point #1
doesn't make the helpfulness of the buff useful to me.

4> More often than not, the yahoo that gives me the buff does so at the
market - that's an instant decline (and a playernote as well)

The pop-up generally doesn't bother me much, because I simply ignore it
most times, although I'd love an autodecline option in settings for it.

There is one instance in which I'll accept the buff. If I'm running a TF or
a Rikti Raid, then I'll accept. In that cases, I'm teamed by default already,
and more importantly, the chaos of a raid or a tf drowns out the noise of
the buff, making it tolerable.

As for giving out the buff, I don't have whatever pack you need to get it,
so it's a complete non-issue for me.

I understand the idea that most folks are simply trying to be helpful, but like
many things, oftentimes the implementation is more irritating than the help
is welcome.


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Originally Posted by SynakulOne View Post
There is a certain player on my server that will not accept fortunes due to religious beliefs.
I'm guessing they don't play a lot of Demon Summoners either.


 

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On teams, the groups I play go with rule of 'fortune the person below you on the team window, bottom fortunes the top". Cuts down on confusion about who fortunes who considerably.


 

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Originally Posted by Thug_Two View Post
On teams, the groups I play go with rule of 'fortune the person below you on the team window, bottom fortunes the top". Cuts down on confusion about who fortunes who considerably.
Ah but often leaves someone out.

If I see someone fortune someone else, I jump in and fortune them as fast as possible --- the hope is that someone else will do the same to me. In that way, the people who use fortune get fortune...except for the last guy in the line.

But then someone will get him later.


 

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Originally Posted by FourSpeed
2> It lasts an hour of game time ...

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Originally Posted by Impish Kat
I thought it was 20 minutes.

It is.
It sure seems like an hour when you hate the sounds and you can't
get rid of them...

Anyway, none for me, thanks.


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4


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I just hate getting the fool card. Ick. throws me off.


 

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I ask at the beginning (and when people join, after the beginning) if they've got the power. Then, I announce that whoever has the power buffs the person below them. Then I pick up people who are below folks without the Magic Pack (pretty rare these days). Makes it easier on other people not to have to remember to buff more than one person. I'm OK with taking more load/responsibility (especially something so minimal as an extra two keypresses (team select # is keybound, fortune is keybound) every 20 minutes).

I don't fortune unless inside a mission or actively killing things in an open zone. I only fortune teammates (or allies in an open zone fight).


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I don't accept Mystic Fortune for much of the same reasons that Fourspeed listed.
Mainly the sound (the one that remains for the duration of the buff, not the casting of it) and the visual.
I really dislike them (the timing of them is just on a weird tempo and rhythm that annoys me.. though, mainly because they annoy me in general... so, I'd always be anticipating it popping up and swirling around again, haha) and so don't want to deal with it. No big deal.

I love the popup. I usually just ignore it, but, if I can, I'll decline it.

I will accept it if 1) the character casting it includes some sort of Role-Playing reason (and my character either accepts or has no option) 2) if we're on an already noisy and flashy TF and I think we might benefit from the buff (extremely rare) 3) if we just got wiped repeatedly and we're pulling out all stops to stem the bleeding, hehe.

I don't have any characters that cast Mystic Fortune role-playing-wise.
I do keep it handy for times such as my above #3.

I do not mind anyone casting it on me though. I generally appreciate the thought and it does not bother or interfere with me in the slightest.


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Originally Posted by Melancton View Post
Whenever I play my /Kin, I ask the team, "Does anyone NOT want Speed Boost?" And if anyone does not, I don't Speed Boost them.
I do the same thing with my Defender too. I made a Macro that basically says something like, "I got my speed boost slotted solely for endurance recovery, who wants it?" The guys that respond in the affirmative get it.

Thing is, with any in game buff, most of them, are VERY useful immaterial of what they look like. So I don't mind when I am buffed. But when some random passer by just all of a sudden blasts me with Fortitude or Density or whatever... I just think... huh?!?

Now with regards to fortunes, I don't mind them, the only one you really don't want is the fool. Getting them in the middle of a fight though, no thanks. Especially if you are a Tanker in the thick of it all its like... frigs sake, get that thing outta my face! Again, if some random passer by tries to fortune me, I usually click no.