Speculation on the Omega slot
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Posted on: 2011-02-17 24:28 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
This thread needs to come back from the dead!
Here's my reckless speculation:
The Omega slot with require a t4 from EVERY previous Incarnate slot, which, if my advanced calculations are correct, is 36 Tier 4 powers. And yes, you lose them when you craft the Omega. In return, you get:
The Purple Triangles of Doom.
Your own personal cutscene. Designed in AE, usable in any instanced mission once every 48 hours.
Your own personal chest insignia, designed and uploaded by you.
A Fear Aura that effects anything -9 or lower.
A Statue of your character, somewhere in Paragon City (heroes/vigilantes) or Rogue Isles (villain/rogue) You chose the pose, but not the location. Sure you could get Atlas park. Or the bottom of a pit in the Hollows.
Ultimate Moment of Unbridled Epic Awesomeness. Think Superman VS Doomsday. A suicide attack that will defeat 1 enemy target, regardless of resistances, phase shifting or blah blah blah. It will take out Hamidon, or Lord Recluse, or Reichsman, or a Skull on the street corner. Downside is, you get NO rewards for the defeat, and you character is unplayable for 7 days, as they claw their way back from Hell.
Stay Gold, Paragon. Stay Gold.
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Originally Posted by MaHaBone23
This thread needs to come back from the dead!
Here's my reckless speculation: The Omega slot with require a t4 from EVERY previous Incarnate slot, which, if my advanced calculations are correct, is 36 Tier 4 powers. And yes, you lose them when you craft the Omega. In return, you get: The Purple Triangles of Doom. Your own personal cutscene. Designed in AE, usable in any instanced mission once every 48 hours. Your own personal chest insignia, designed and uploaded by you. A Fear Aura that effects anything -9 or lower. A Statue of your character, somewhere in Paragon City (heroes/vigilantes) or Rogue Isles (villain/rogue) You chose the pose, but not the location. Sure you could get Atlas park. Or the bottom of a pit in the Hollows. Ultimate Moment of Unbridled Epic Awesomeness. Think Superman VS Doomsday. A suicide attack that will defeat 1 enemy target, regardless of resistances, phase shifting or blah blah blah. It will take out Hamidon, or Lord Recluse, or Reichsman, or a Skull on the street corner. Downside is, you get NO rewards for the defeat, and you character is unplayable for 7 days, as they claw their way back from Hell. |
Or bury you in a lead box >_>
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NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
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Originally Posted by MajorDecoy
I'm personally interested in Cardiac/Cardiac.
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Anyway, I imagine that Omega will be similar to Alpha, except the rare/very rare might give us a Level Shift that works only on Trials like Lore and Destiny.
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here are total guesses, leading up from where we are at up to Omega
Hybrid: This one is very open ended, but what if you could choose modified version of a few archetypes' inherent powers? a weaker scourge that boost damage vs. low health. A modified defiance that lets you use your first tier primary/secondary power while mezzed. A modified containment that does bonus damage to mezzed targets. A modified fury that gives damage for using damage powers.
Genesis: an ally buff, perhaps?
Mind: either mez protection, or mez powers.
Vitae: here I would guess a power that boosts the character's own survivability.
Omega: The big finisher for this incarnate set. I'm thinking a godmode power, or a power that allows the character to do unresistable damage. Basically, makes you similar to what you are at the beginning of ramiel's arc. For only a limited time, of course. I'd daresay it would be limited to incarnate trials as well.
Eh. The thread is only three months old, and it's fun to see how the guesses line up with reality.
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Well, Eiko-chan and warden_de_dios at least got part of what they wanted--Clarion can provide squishies with perma mez protection. Even near the end of the duration, it's still fairly effective.
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Originally Posted by Seldom
Eh. The thread is only three months old, and it's fun to see how the guesses line up with reality.
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The Way of the Corruptor (Arc ID 49834): Hey villains! Do something for yourself for a change--like twisting the elements to your will. All that's standing in your way are a few secret societies...and Champions of the four elements.
With the exception of T9's the omega slot will allow you to chose one power from any other AT set. You will be unable to slot this power with any enhancements. Thus your fire/fire blaster could take willpower's rise to the challenge or mind control's confuse ability.
Hey, I can hope.
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Originally Posted by Sideline
With the exception of T9's the omega slot will allow you to chose one power from any other AT set. You will be unable to slot this power with any enhancements. Thus your fire/fire blaster could take willpower's rise to the challenge or mind control's confuse ability.
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Can you imagine mind/plant dominators running around with two different sets of AoE confuses, in permadom?
Game over man, game over.
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Originally Posted by Stone Daemon
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The MtG dev team. You gotta love 'em.
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So that means if it isn't cast and is just put into play it doesn't work?
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Originally Posted by Coyote_Seven
Errata: "When Thread Necromancy is cast, it becomes an Aura Enchantment with "Enchant Artifact". Put target Thread card from a graveyard onto the battlefield under your control and with Thread Necromancy attached. When Thread Necromancy is sent to the graveyard from the battlefield, destroy enchanted artifact."
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More like if you had no legal target (presumably, an artifact with the "Thread" subtype that is in some player's graveyard), then you could not cast it in the first place.|
Originally Posted by Chaos Creator
So that means if it isn't cast and is just put into play it doesn't work?
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Of course this isn't a real card so... yeah!
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But do you need a legal target if there was say.. an effect that directly played it?
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Originally Posted by Coyote_Seven
More like if you had no legal target (presumably, an artifact with the "Thread" subtype that is in some player's graveyard), then you could not cast it in the first place.
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That's a good question. I'm not really sure, but I would guess the devs would rule something like: It would be forced to cast, but as it had no legal target, it would either sit there for the remainder of the game and do nothing at all, or else immediately fizzle and go to the graveyard.|
Originally Posted by Chaos Creator
But do you need a legal target if there was say.. an effect that directly played it?
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I doubt a card like this would get past beta testing as it looked. Quite possibly it would be changed into an Aura Enchantment from the get-go, with the card rules stating that it targets Thread artifacts that are in a graveyard.
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Seems like it would fit nicely in an UN set.
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Originally Posted by Coyote_Seven
That's a good question. I'm not really sure, but I would guess the devs would rule something like: It would be forced to cast, but as it had no legal target, it would either sit there for the remainder of the game and do nothing at all, or else immediately fizzle and go to the graveyard.
I doubt a card like this would get past beta testing as it looked. Quite possibly it would be changed into an Aura Enchantment from the get-go, with the card rules stating that it targets Thread artifacts that are in a graveyard. |
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Originally Posted by Chaos Creator
Seems like it would fit nicely in an UN set.
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Speaking of CoH and Magic though, I always imagined Statesman would be creature type "Human Hero Legend", with Flying, First Strike and Vigilance. He'd cost something like 3UWWW, have 7 power and 8 toughness.
Lord Recluse would be creature type "Human Villain Legend", cost 3UBBB, and have the ability to pump out Soldier creature tokens. He'd also have the ability to redirect damage done to him to Soldier creatures instead. EDIT: He'd also have the Reach ability, 'cause all spiders have that in MtG!
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What do you guys think?
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Originally Posted by Snow Globe
Note the power icon.
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So with Hybrid slot's function confirmed and a new idea popping into my head, I have an odd theory of what Omega Slot will be: It will be an Incarnate power enhancement slot.
On its own, it's useless, but if you link it to say, you're Alpha, and then BAM! Alpha slot's values are doubled and ignores 75% of Enhancement diversification. But what if you slot it into Lore? BOOM! You don't just summon two lore pets, you summon six of the the theme. Judgment? Oh, you better believe it will be Judgement day for your enemies when you unleash it now, because only AVs and EBs will be standing after a hit from this. And so on.
So, how does this sound for plausibility?
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It's interesting to see how close some players' speculations were on the Incarnate slots to what they actually are.
As for Omega? I'm still expecting a state boosting power similar to, but not the same as, Alpha.
Omega will be Custom signature powers. That is all.
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The Omega Slot will make you so powerful that the very rare version will be the ability to get your butt handed to you in every group event just to show the others just how deadly this new threat is.
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