Respeccing Fitnessless for Fitnessful

I *believe* in taking fitness on a character only if it fits the concept. A martial artist who trains daily is going to have increased stamina and health. A sorcerer who wields magic-- not so much. Accordingly, I currently slot for endurance usage and take advantage of the various recovery bonuses available through IOs on most of my characters.

However, in a short amount of time, that will all be moot. The concept of 'Endurance Management' goes out the window and the newly re-retooled Inherent Fitness Pool is here to stay.

Unlike many of you, I'll only have a handful of characters who need to respec around inherent fitness. Most of my characters will simply have a handful of new slots in which to drop a single IO. I've embraced the change and have been working for Numina's, Miracle, and Performance Shifter procs to drop in to place when the day arrives. (Tuesday, maybe?)

Interestingly, I've still run into a few odd situations with my respecs:

- My Cold/Dark defender has a Miracle proc slotted in Frostwork. I've mentioned to teammates that this is to 'keep me honest' so that I hand out Frostwork as often as possible. Reworking my defender's build to move that Miracle over into Inherent Health has left me genuinely worrying about changes I might make or need to make to my playstyle.

- My archery/psi blaster has a Numina's proc in Drain Psyche. It's otherwise slotted with Numina's and Efficacy Adapter for Franken-slotted fun. Breaking up the set of Numina's, however, will leave me without the 12% regeneration bonus having a pair of them grants. I'm either going to have to work in another Numina's IO or rethink my slotting entirely.

- Likewise, my Dark/Invulnerability scrapper has a Numina's proc in Siphon Life. She's also heavily optimized for 'Necromancer' type play-- depending on taps and drains for a great deal of her survivability. While moving the Numina's to Inherent Health, my initial testing showed that she still gets some distance out of it that play style. Still, I'm not entirely sure that having inherent fitness won't make it rather redundant. I'm going to have to test several builds before I come to a conclusion one way or the other.


If you're speccing from a fitnessless build to a build with inherent fitness, what difficulties have you run in to?

I use the Fitness Path in Every Toon I play.. and I have a Metric Ton of them. Its always a race to get them to lvl 21 so I've got Stamina because most all of them are simply Enderance Hogs. Having played with them a bit now, I really like it. And I have to say that I probably fall into the Average Player mentality. The good part is that if you don't want to put into it.. all you will have is one slot of each. which will help you in being at least a little "Super" For the toon that is nothing more than Uber Trained, then thats fine. but if you are playing as a "Super" then you should have the availability. Much goes into what ever it is you pick to do with your toon.

Why do you feel you have to move anything? It's like your trying to find fault with free fitness in some way. Ignore the change and life will go on.

It will, really.

I have a character who's a "Gray" Roswell alien. I went out of my way not to take the fitness pool, not even swift to improve his flight speed (he doesn't walk/run at any time due to his diminutive body and large head).

But now like a player with a costume piece that's been removed from the game and can't visit the tailor to tweak his costume because they would lose that piece, I'm in the similar situation with respec because it would grant this character all of the fitness pool.

Actually, when trying out inherent fitness after they fixed the problems it was causing doms and khelds, I copied over my fire/wp brute, who is currently without fitness as of her latest respec. As soon as I logged in, all of the inherent fitness was immediately granted to me. To test further, I copied over a claws/sr scrapper who was only missing hurdle, but she wasn't granted hurdle upon logging in, meaning she would need a respec to get it. So it looks as though those toons that don't have fitness at all will get it as soon as you log them in.

Edit: Just tested again, copied my fitness-less fire/wp brute to the beta server, and upon logging in she had all the fitness powers, no leveling or respec required, so I can confirm that any toons without fitness at all will get it automatically upon login.

@OP.... here's an idea. Those inherent fitness powers? Pretend they aren't there.

Remember your Incredibles: If everyone is super then no one is!

No really. Inherent fitness is the new normal. Everyone will have them so they are no longer a point of differentiation. Your physically unfit characters can still be physically unfit. If you really believe not being able to run a marathon has ANYTHING to do with your ability to fire a gun or blast someone with your MIND (or whatever it is you do) you can just leave them unslotted. Hey! Maybe drop some endurance slotting from your other powers to "compensate" so you can suck wind as badly as before!

The possibilities are nearly endless for screwing up a well performing build. You can do it!

And how much of that has to do with stamina/fitness? Or is the fact you have fewer slots, weaker enhancements, not fully developed stats and fewer powers not a factor here?

Apparently, the devs don't want you to be at full might at lvl 1 for gameplay purposes or replay value. You could always complain to the devs we deserve all our slots and powers plus the ability to slot purples at the start...it make about as much relative sense.

I think that's probably a much better way of what I try to get across, Sam.
Endurance management is fine and dandy. I would argue against removing it.

But Stamina is, pretty much, mandatory to even functioning on a basic level, just to fight 0/0 mobs. And, previously, you had to sacrifice three power picks just to do that. THAT right there is what my beef was always with, because it sucked IMO.

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