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Well i dont see one and search didnt find one so here we go.....Oh and im sure im gonna drop some spoilers.

Went and saw it last night at the midnight show. First off Green Lantern looks slightly less cheesy on the big screen thankfully. And surprisingly the Cowboys and Aliens trailer actually had the audience laughing. I think Fav might want to release a trailer that is a bit more story driven soon so it doesnt come off as gimicky since its not as well known of a comic as Ironman.

On to harry. Honestly about what i expected. It was talky in parts, but had enough action to keep things moving. Had about the cuts i would expect to things like the planning of the raid on the ministry, or the time at the hallows before the wedding. The only thing in the begining that really felt left out was that he hadnt officially broken up with Jennie, so that is left hanging kinda.

Almost every scene is really directly represented in most ways as it was in the book, or atleast attempted to stay faithful to the spirit of the scene in the book. The effects were well done, and the scene where the locket opens is really impressive looking to me. Its also the scene with the semi-nude harry and herminoe which was talked about. And goes about how you figure, well placed arms ect. Infact that scene IMO was the one scene that looked most CGId almost like they didnt want skin and stuff to be to realistic, especially compared to doby who looks 100 times better in this movie then in the previous one.

I would say that those that havent read the books are going to miss out on some things, not important things mind you but like since this is the first time we see Bill for example, he is already a werewolf and they refference to that, but you wouldnt know the history behind it.

The only question for me that still remains is that other then the locket there is absolutely no mention of the other horcruxes. Infact they basicly say they dont know what they are or where they would be. So that should be intresting to see worked out in july since honestly even going into this movie was one of my biggest questions. That having concentrated so much on the teen/love aspect in HBP they basicly left out all the lessons that taught harry what items he would be looking for.

Overall definately worth the money, and a very nice installment to the film franchise and it on the right track to the final movie.


 

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Great movie. Great subtle moment where Ron agrees to like Twilight for Hermione's sake. Very clever how they did that.


 

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Just got back from it, and I enjoyed it a lot. Managed to make the 'traipsing up and down the countryside' interesting and dramatic enough that it works, and nice to see the Unholy Threesome starting to really push their acting talents. (I'd gotten so used to seeing Rupert Grint as the comedic value of the three that watching him do bitter, angry, and despairing was almost astounding.)

Personally, though, I loved the very beginning scenes with Harry, Ron, and Hermione (hers in particular - not even five minutes in and I wanted to cry!). Those couple of minutes just so beautifully set up everything they're going to have to leave behind.

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Just got back from it, and I enjoyed it a lot. Managed to make the 'traipsing up and down the countryside' interesting and dramatic enough that it works, and nice to see the Unholy Threesome starting to really push their acting talents. (I'd gotten so used to seeing Rupert Grint as the comedic value of the three that watching him do bitter, angry, and despairing was almost astounding.)

Personally, though, I loved the very beginning scenes with Harry, Ron, and Hermione (hers in particular - not even five minutes in and I wanted to cry!). Those couple of minutes just so beautifully set up everything they're going to have to leave behind.

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Oh i forgot about that first scene. That was one notable departure from the book that in the book didnt she send her parents to another country under thinking they were someone else rather then erasing herself.


 

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Oh i forgot about that first scene. That was one notable departure from the book that in the book didnt she send her parents to another country under thinking they were someone else rather then erasing herself.
You actually hear them talking about Australia (which is where she sends them in the book), but like the book, she also makes them forget they had a daughter. She references that again later in the forest where she and her parents used to go camping.

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You actually hear them talking about Australia (which is where she sends them in the book), but like the book, she also makes them forget they had a daughter. She references that again later in the forest where she and her parents used to go camping.

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Another thing i realized wasnt in there, and honestly i kinda miss it now that i know its not, is that they never let Tonks announce her pregnancy. That in and of itself is not that bad for this story, other then it makes the battle a bit less since those two are one reason why it was sad, but also i really liked the scene in the book where Harry lets go on Lupin when he wants to join them about abandoning his family.

I really liked that scene in the book because it kinda i felt added to the idea that somehow Harry knows all along that the finale will require him to sacrifice himself and he wants as few people in the way to talk him out of it as possible.

But also the kid IMO is one of the best possibilities for any kinda of new books. I think if they gave the kid kinda a half werewolf/half wizard kinda thing it would be an intresting new set of books.


 

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Another thing i realized wasnt in there, and honestly i kinda miss it now that i know its not, is that they never let Tonks announce her pregnancy.
I'm holding off on the "They didn't include ---" posts until I see Part 2, but yeah, I am hoping for that, too.

Did they recast Tonks? I had a crush on her last time.


 

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Nope Same actress for Tonks, and they do make a small reference to her preganancy but its cut off by the on going conversation. Im with Quijon on my own review. a well done movie and kept the spirirt of the book solidly in hand. Looking forward to the second installment.


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Took my son to see this as part of his B-Day present. We both dug it.


 

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I was really happy with the way this one turned out. Considering how disappointed i was with HBP, i was pleased to see how this part ended. Im really looking forward to the last half of the whole thing.


 

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They elude to the pregnancy. Tonks says they have news as she puts her hand over her stomach, before being cut off.

I had wish they made mention of Dudley no longer hating Harry. But that's a small detail I guess. :/

They did the traveling scene well.

Them not showing or mentioning Harry and Ginny breaking up, did throw of my mom, who asked why Ron was upset, when he knows Harry's dating Ginny.

Figure that could just as easily be explained as the necklace driving him bonkers.

Over all, I thought they did a great job with it and can't wait for Part 2.


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Personally, i thought it was the best acted of the group.


 

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Just went to see this with my family yesterday. Great movie. I haven't read any of the books beyond the second one, so I wouldn't know what they left out but I think the movie was well paced. Favorite part was when Dobby showed up with Creature. Elves seem crazy powerful and I'm wondering why more of them don't show up to try and fight Voldamort.

Does Voldamort show up when anyone says his name? I kinda figured, but my folks (who don't follow the movies or books that well) were wondering how he kept finding them so quickly. I tried to explain to them that's why most people just refer to him as 'you know who'. Harry especially, considering he was never afraid to say the name in the first couple of movies.

I also got to see the Green Lantern trailer on the big screen and I agree: It certainly looks better. Or, at the very least, you can't see the flaws as much. My Dad's been a fan of GL for a *long* time and he nearly jumped out of his seat when he saw it.


 

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Just went to see this with my family yesterday. Great movie. I haven't read any of the books beyond the second one, so I wouldn't know what they left out but I think the movie was well paced. Favorite part was when Dobby showed up with Creature. Elves seem crazy powerful and I'm wondering why more of them don't show up to try and fight Voldamort.

Does Voldamort show up when anyone says his name? I kinda figured, but my folks (who don't follow the movies or books that well) were wondering how he kept finding them so quickly. I tried to explain to them that's why most people just refer to him as 'you know who'. Harry especially, considering he was never afraid to say the name in the first couple of movies.
Most if not all of these questions should be answered in the second film.

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I went with my friends to the second showing (no midnight unfortunately) and loved it! I was sniffling when Dobby died and my friend next to me was crying. The entire sold-out theatre was laughing, cheering and applauding throughout the entire movie. Especially when the movie ended.


 

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I did see it too, and loved it. Very well acted by the three main characters, followed the book very nicely and only skipping a few details. Loved the opening (especially the Hermoine one). It was serious but here and there you can see the humour which is present in the books as well. Loved the Dobby scenes, which is weird because he annoyed me tremedously in book and movie two. I must say the impact of Dobby dying was stronger in the book (I still cry when I read that passage) and for some reason it wasn't as poignant as it could have been. Loved the drama and the sense of being cut of the world in the travelling scenes, beautiful scenery. Although I can accept that some people found those scenes a tad too long ( did miss deam subplot here as well by the way). I did enjoy them though. Nice pace of action and drama.


 

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My favorite part was the animation sequence showing the story of the Three Brothers while Hermione narrated. I thought it was a brilliant choice, and the animation style was inspired. I also thought they did Ron getting "splinched" very well. I was cringing looking at the wounds on his arm. Finally, I really liked the scene where the Snatcher guy is standing right in front of Hermione but he can't see her because of the wards, he can only smell her perfume.

I also thought the acting in this one is the best of all the movies so far, especially Emma Watson.

Edit: Really looking forward to part 2. We're going to get both the robbery and escape at Gringott's and The Battle of Hogwarts! Yay!


 

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Enjoyed in very much and very much looking forward to the next movie.

My only complaint (well not really a complaint) , it did seem sorta like the LOTR movies.



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Just went to see this with my family yesterday. Great movie. I haven't read any of the books beyond the second one, so I wouldn't know what they left out but I think the movie was well paced. Favorite part was when Dobby showed up with Creature. Elves seem crazy powerful and I'm wondering why more of them don't show up to try and fight Voldamort.

Does Voldamort show up when anyone says his name? I kinda figured, but my folks (who don't follow the movies or books that well) were wondering how he kept finding them so quickly. I tried to explain to them that's why most people just refer to him as 'you know who'. Harry especially, considering he was never afraid to say the name in the first couple of movies.

I also got to see the Green Lantern trailer on the big screen and I agree: It certainly looks better. Or, at the very least, you can't see the flaws as much. My Dad's been a fan of GL for a *long* time and he nearly jumped out of his seat when he saw it.
Actually there is no mention in the movie of a curse or jinx being placed on his name. infact in the book that was how they eventually found them. V knew that as Dumbledore that Harry was not afraid to use his name so he cursed it to trace to the speaker. Ron found this out during his time away from them, which in the book seemed much longer then the movie played it out to be. And then if i recall harry says the name accidently which brings the snatchers to them that they happened to come acrossed in the woods.


 

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I went back and browsed the book a bit just to see where things happened and stuff. One thing that i kinda thought seemed out of place, was that by this point in the story, having gotten to shell collage, the narative of dumbledore in the book is much more advance. Which i think from the pov of anyone having only followed the movies is going to hurt a bit. For instance in the movie they dont really explain who the dark wizard is that harry sees stealing the wand and then how it comes to be with dumbledore. So really at this point they left out pretty much ALL of the dumbledore as a boy, his father dying, his sister being sick, and dumbledores misspent beliefs about magic superiority which eventually leads to the fight with Aberforth and his sisters death. Which in HBP they do infact elude to in that the big D is following the lines from the book asking someone to "leave they alone" or something like that.

I really now only bring it up because frankly that is a big part of thebook to just be completely missing. It really does put harry on a path of doubting Dumbledore and his judgement but also explains how we know where the wand was and why it came to be with Dumbledore but also really does then kinda lend itself to the final scene where they talked about a wand's alligences being won or lost as to why the death stick isnt the weapon it should be for V.


 

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I went back and browsed the book a bit just to see where things happened and stuff. One thing that i kinda thought seemed out of place, was that by this point in the story, having gotten to shell collage, the narative of dumbledore in the book is much more advance. Which i think from the pov of anyone having only followed the movies is going to hurt a bit. For instance in the movie they dont really explain who the dark wizard is that harry sees stealing the wand and then how it comes to be with dumbledore. So really at this point they left out pretty much ALL of the dumbledore as a boy, his father dying, his sister being sick, and dumbledores misspent beliefs about magic superiority which eventually leads to the fight with Aberforth and his sisters death. Which in HBP they do infact elude to in that the big D is following the lines from the book asking someone to "leave they alone" or something like that.

I really now only bring it up because frankly that is a big part of thebook to just be completely missing. It really does put harry on a path of doubting Dumbledore and his judgement but also explains how we know where the wand was and why it came to be with Dumbledore but also really does then kinda lend itself to the final scene where they talked about a wand's alligences being won or lost as to why the death stick isnt the weapon it should be for V.
Well remember that they still have a lot of time to work that into the next movie and really bring Harry down to that confrontation with Voldemort in the woods. They cast Dumbledore's brother, so I would imagine they delve into that at least a little in the next movie.


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Well remember that they still have a lot of time to work that into the next movie and really bring Harry down to that confrontation with Voldemort in the woods. They cast Dumbledore's brother, so I would imagine they delve into that at least a little in the next movie.
I know that, but in the book, by the time they get to shell cottage harry already knows the history from Skitters book and knows that Dumbledore was friends as a boy with the dark wizard he later fights and takes the wand from. Its only really important i think because first it explains why dumbledore has the wand, but what we should see at the begining of the second movie is harry talking to olivander and the goblin. He chooses to talk to the goblin first even the while knowing that Voldemort is closing in on the wand because he had come to the realization that he himself wasnt to have the wand that it wasnt in the plan.

Im sure as in many parts of the movie they will find ways of explaining this off, i just liked the idea that harry was finally starting to think, and plan and scheme a bit rather then just always running off to the next fight as he does through most of the movies and books. The character was always very reactionary and this was one of the first times that he actually sat back and looked at the bigger picture.

I think we need to seriously keep in mind that there is a TON of stuff left to fill in the second movie. They still have to break into gringotts, sneak into hogworts, find the daidem, the fight in the room of requirement, snapes death and his entire memory sequence, then the battle really starts and we have to deal with harrys death, and the entire part with dumbledore and the final confrontations. So when you figure that they seem reluctant to go much beyond 2.5 hours with these movies, i think alot of the little bits of character development are seeming to get left by the way side.


 

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I know that, but in the book, by the time they get to shell cottage harry already knows the history from Skitters book and knows that Dumbledore was friends as a boy with the dark wizard he later fights and takes the wand from. Its only really important i think because first it explains why dumbledore has the wand, but what we should see at the begining of the second movie is harry talking to olivander and the goblin. He chooses to talk to the goblin first even the while knowing that Voldemort is closing in on the wand because he had come to the realization that he himself wasnt to have the wand that it wasnt in the plan.

Im sure as in many parts of the movie they will find ways of explaining this off, i just liked the idea that harry was finally starting to think, and plan and scheme a bit rather then just always running off to the next fight as he does through most of the movies and books. The character was always very reactionary and this was one of the first times that he actually sat back and looked at the bigger picture.

I think we need to seriously keep in mind that there is a TON of stuff left to fill in the second movie. They still have to break into gringotts, sneak into hogworts, find the daidem, the fight in the room of requirement, snapes death and his entire memory sequence, then the battle really starts and we have to deal with harrys death, and the entire part with dumbledore and the final confrontations. So when you figure that they seem reluctant to go much beyond 2.5 hours with these movies, i think alot of the little bits of character development are seeming to get left by the way side.
Well also in the books they kind of went back and forth as to how important the Deathly Hallows actually were. At first they were just this kind of myth, then Harry leads them toward actively looking for them, and then they kind of ditch that plan to refocus on the Horcruxes, then Harry starts believing in the Hallows again. I think in order to make this shift in focus a little smoother, they want to wait to introduce some of the details until the second movie.


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Just went to see this with my family yesterday. Great movie. I haven't read any of the books beyond the second one, so I wouldn't know what they left out but I think the movie was well paced. Favorite part was when Dobby showed up with Creature. Elves seem crazy powerful and I'm wondering why more of them don't show up to try and fight Voldamort.
Getting to this rather late, I know, but for what it's worth, elves are mostly constrained by their oaths to their families (which is why the Malfoys are horrified by their former house elf using magic against them... not to mention having one steal a wand). There aren't very many free ones, and most of them that are free are upset about it. It's a fairly interesting and complicated situation, actually. Hermione finds that out when she tries to campaign for all house elves being freed.

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My favorite part was the animation sequence showing the story of the Three Brothers while Hermione narrated. I thought it was a brilliant choice, and the animation style was inspired. I also thought they did Ron getting "splinched" very well. I was cringing looking at the wounds on his arm. Finally, I really liked the scene where the Snatcher guy is standing right in front of Hermione but he can't see her because of the wards, he can only smell her perfume.

I also thought the acting in this one is the best of all the movies so far, especially Emma Watson.
I'd agree that the visuals and acting were quite good in this movie. I also quite enjoyed the animation sequence: it was quite well done (I think that it could win an animated short award, actually).

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I really now only bring it up because frankly that is a big part of thebook to just be completely missing. It really does put harry on a path of doubting Dumbledore and his judgement but also explains how we know where the wand was and why it came to be with Dumbledore but also really does then kinda lend itself to the final scene where they talked about a wand's alligences being won or lost as to why the death stick isnt the weapon it should be for V.
This is the usual problem with a lot of book to movie adaptations: a lot of the nuance that makes the book great is left out. That's kind of the way of it, but it is rather unfortunate for the movie. If I hadn't read the book, I wouldn't really know how much Harry felt abandoned by his old mentor, or how frustrated he was by that. It was something I thought made the seventh book so good.

And actually, that was something I missed about the escape from the Malfoys and arriving at Shell Cottage: for once, Harry was really taking the lead, rather than reacting, as you said. That was a changing point for him as a character in the whole series.

I'm dubious how much of that they'll be able to bring out (though I'm sure his arriving at the grove will be good... it seemed powerful just in the trailer this fall), but him actually shaking off his protectors and mentors, and thinking for once? I don't know.


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