Have drop rates been changed (purples)?


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I have a SS/Fire brute whom i use only to farm a demon mission for money and such to feed my other characters.

Generally, each run would net me a little bit over $10 million Influence, a few crummy drops and the occasional purple drop. At worst, I'd get a purple every five or so runs through, a nice surprise which I then sell.

Since about two weeks or so ago, I haven't gotten a single purple drop, and even rare (orange) drops are a surprise now. All I get are those damn common temp powers and yellow recipies.

I mean, I've run the mission many many times now and the best I get is the odd rare recipie.

I know people will say just bad luck, but not only must I be on an incredibly bad streak, but I don't even get above yellow on multiple runs in a row.

Lvl 50 mish +4x8, like I said, I have been running it a long time now.


 

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I know people will say just bad luck
Yep I'd pretty much say "random is random" as well especially since there hasn't been a significant patch to the live build in many weeks. I've only had around 20 purples drop for me since they were first introduced to the game and one of those 20 just happened last night. Maybe I got one of yours.


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I had been internally whining about purples myself but finally managed to get 2 to drop in a single day. So I guess I'm not seeing one for another couple months.

And I don't rely on regular drops on rare recipes (I'm SOO tired of getting Stupefies). If they drop, great, but I usually rely on the market or rolls for those.


 

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Well, I guess I knew nothing could have changed or there would have been an outcry.

I've never seen such luck though. I seriously have been happy to see a lousey orange drop lately my drops have been so bad.

As an aside, I went to my farm mish on test after getting my alpha slot and killed at least a couple hundred minions and Lts lvl 54 and never got a single shard drop, I had to double check they don't only come from TFs.

I guess the RNG just really hates my Brute right now Sure sucks though to feel like you have no chance of a good drop, which is how it's starting to feel, heh.


 

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It's shocking. I've been compiling statistics and I've discovered that after every patch, almost half the players have been getting less drops than average!

Outrage!


 

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The RNG is a cruel mistress.


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Random number generator is still random.


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Odd, I got two purples in same mission last night while running villain tip mission. One a cheapie (20mil) and one a not so cheapie (lots more than 20mil). And was running at -1 +5
Random is indeed random


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I got 4 last weekend from just runing my tips on a charcater

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Try lowering your difficulty.

As long as they are able to drop level fifty commons, NPC level does not matter. Rank (minion/lt/boss) matters, but level does not affect any drop chances. So lower level mobs mean faster farming.


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I seriously should sit down and write up a lecture with pictures and stuff to post every time this comes up. Let's see if I can give a really simple example of it.

In the context of coin-flips, sometimes, you will get heads and sometimes you will get tails. This does not mean that every single time you get heads, you get a tails immediately afterwards. That would in fact be the opposite of random - it'd be entirely predictive. You will, as a natural byproduct of statistics, get a number of heads in a row, and a number of tails, and only after a very large flipping sample - thousands upon thousands - will those biases work themselves out consistantly.

Now imagine that instead of a 50/50 chance like a coinflip, it's a 1/9,000 chance. Streaks will once again happen; you sometimes will go 27,000 before you get 1, and sometimes you will get 2 in 4,500. This is simple statistical noise.

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Wait, i could swear i read this exact same thread about a month ago.
And will probably see another one just like this a month from now


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Originally Posted by Rajani Isa View Post
Try lowering your difficulty.

As long as they are able to drop level fifty commons, NPC level does not matter. Rank (minion/lt/boss) matters, but level does not affect any drop chances. So lower level mobs mean faster farming.
After I19 you may not want to do this. Only level 50 opponents will drop incarnate shards, and the alpha slot boosts (which require shards) will be the new purples.


 

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After I19 you may not want to do this. Only level 50 opponents will drop incarnate shards, and the alpha slot boosts (which require shards) will be the new purples.
Blue might want to raise it to +0, but the OP would still benifit from going from +4 to +0 as far as speed/kills-per-hours is concerned.


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Blue might want to raise it to +0, but the OP would still benifit from going from +4 to +0 as far as speed/kills-per-hours is concerned.
Well, as I dont farm for kill infamy, basically for standard IO drops, purples and rare salvage I find its much quicker to kill a mob of 8 49/50's vs a mob of 8 50/51's and logically my chances to get a purple are still the same according to RNG.
And, you would be suprised at how little the cost difference between a lvl 49 LotG Defense vs a lvl 50 is on the market... as an example... so doesnt bother me if my kill cash is low if I get a couple of nice drops thru the run.


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Funny the responses of how it comes up so often. ONE of those was actually verified and after tons of data by many players was resolved.


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Well, I know this sounded like the "Has accuracy been nerfed?" threads that come up after every patch, that's why I didn't post until I had gone so long without a decent drop that it just started to feel wrong if you know what I mean. I just kept going figuring bad luck but then on and on its gone until I figured I had to ask.

Guess I'll do a few runs tonight and see if I can catch a break.


 

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Originally Posted by Rajani Isa View Post
Try lowering your difficulty.

As long as they are able to drop level fifty commons, NPC level does not matter. Rank (minion/lt/boss) matters, but level does not affect any drop chances. So lower level mobs mean faster farming.
I run at +4x8 because it's still fast and safe, as I use demons and have 90% fire resist or close most of the time and lots of recharge, etc. I have run at +2x8 but ended up about 2 million or so short of +4x8 runs. Didn't seem a lot faster either, so I went back to +4x8.

I see this must come often since the topic has its own "Random is random" quip standard reply, hehe.


 

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I didn't get a single purple drop for almost a year. Not a single one.

Then, when I was running a random mission, I had two drop within 3 minutes of each other. From the same set no less.


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I run at +4x8 because it's still fast and safe, as I use demons and have 90% fire resist or close most of the time and lots of recharge, etc. I have run at +2x8 but ended up about 2 million or so short of +4x8 runs. Didn't seem a lot faster either, so I went back to +4x8.

I see this must come often since the topic has its own "Random is random" quip standard reply, hehe.
I'd love to get an invite and see a +4 run go as fast as a +0 run. Especially if it has bosses. Accuracy seem to be one of the biggest issues i've seen as the levels are raised. Even on IO'd builds.

The only time ive ran +3 or +4s and went semi fast is when my sonic/fire is on follow, other than that, +0s go a whole lot faster. In my experience anyways.


 

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The other day I was going through a dry spell in terms of purple drops, then I got three within a few minutes of each other. They were on the crappy side, but I didn't complain.


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Starting to wonder if I just have the worst luck ever. I've had One Purple drop the second,or third, week after they were added into the game.

Not a single one since.


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Starting to wonder if I just have the worst luck ever. I've had One Purple drop the second,or third, week after they were added into the game.

Not a single one since.
Obviously it depends a lot on how often you defeat level 47+ enemies. i've only gotten something over a dozen purple drops, but i'm defeating 47+ enemies maybe 10% of the time on average at most. i spend most of my time leveling up new alts.


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