Couple of questions if I may please?
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Adeon Hawkwood,
Posted on: 2010-11-04 04:33 in Player Questions
Missions: Sometimes the locations of objectives seem very vague at best, not sure if i need to be in the underground or up top when I accept some of them and often don't have a marker or anything I can identify. Mission text doesn't seem to help much and I am just wondering if I am experiencing "Blonde" moments or is this the norm?
Sometimes missions can be like that - click the expanded description if that doesnt help then type /hc "message". Your message will be displayed in the help channel for whatever server you're on. Most servers have a global channel. See if you can join that.
Enhancements: Seem to buy them in stacks of five. Are these splittable into smaller stacks or do I just put five into a slot and then move to the next slot for others? I recall reading somewhere on here that any more than three of any particular enhancement eventuates in diminishing returns and I don't want to waste them if possible. (again, this could be another blonde moment, not sure)
Sounds like you're buying Level 5s not 5 of something.
Mastermind: From what I have read I only get three pets at different level tiers, (got two at the moment) and was wondering why i see videos of people with like ten or more pets? Is this a third blonde experience I am having or am I yet to discover what goes on here regarding pets? (MM Necro in case anyone is wondering)
You get more pets in your primary and secondary depending upon the set as you level up.
Alliances: I am currently betraying the PDD for the Resistance and are doing missions for the resistance. Why is it that I can beat the tar out of both factions if I feel like it? I thought I would just breeze past whoever I was aligned with and that they would be friendly but both seem capable of attacking at random. Is this because i am tricking one side, (the PDD) and doing resistance missions or am I just being blonde for the fourth time?
It's designed that way
Lastly: What a great game! Why didn't I pick this up ages ago? Blonde moment again perhaps hehe? Just hoping some of you folks may be able to help here as I have to admit that this is one damn fine game and I really want to be as competent as I can and enjoy teaming up with some of you at some point. Any help appreciated guys and a big ol' thanks in advance to anyone who can help me in my quest to become "not so blonde'.
1. Read over the player guides and also read over the Mastermind guides. This should give a good understanding of the game as well as different perspectives and playstyles.
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Regarding your Mastermind Question... You can have up to 6 pets. There are three tiers of pets. The first one have 3 pets, the second one have 2 pets and the last one with one big pet in it.
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A great way to get quick answers to questions that may seem "blonde" at the time is join a good SuperGroup.
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Let me take a crack at this one. The number next to the enhancement is the Level of the enhancement. They are good from three levels below to three levels above that range. So a level 15 enhancement can first be slotted when the character is level 12 and will "go bad (turn red)" at level 19. The exception to this are invention origin enhancements which never go bad but their relative strength is based on it's level.|
Originally Posted by EvilDonald
Enhancements: Seem to buy them in stacks of five. Are these splittable into smaller stacks or do I just put five into a slot and then move to the next slot for others? I recall reading somewhere on here that any more than three of any particular enhancement eventuates in diminishing returns and I don't want to waste them if possible. (again, this could be another blonde moment, not sure)
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For further reading check out ParagonWiki. Remember ParagonWiki is your friend.
In particular you should read the following articles.
Enhancement which is a general overview with links to more specific information.
Enhancement Diversification which deals with the diminishing returns aspect.
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Originally Posted by EvilDonald
Hi guys, brand new player playing since yesterday. Just got a couple of quick questions that I thought someone may be able to help me with if that's ok?
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Originally Posted by EvilDonald
Missions: Sometimes the locations of objectives seem very vague at best, not sure if i need to be in the underground or up top when I accept some of them and often don't have a marker or anything I can identify. Mission text doesn't seem to help much and I am just wondering if I am experiencing "Blonde" moments or is this the norm?
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Originally Posted by EvilDonald
Enhancements: Seem to buy them in stacks of five. Are these splittable into smaller stacks or do I just put five into a slot and then move to the next slot for others? I recall reading somewhere on here that any more than three of any particular enhancement eventuates in diminishing returns and I don't want to waste them if possible. (again, this could be another blonde moment, not sure)
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The diminishing returns you read about come into play with SOs, or Single Origin enhancements that you can slot from level 22 onwards. Basically, if the total enhancement value of a single property of a power would exceed the amount gained by three SOs, the gains beyond that are sharply diminished so it really doesn't pay to slot more than 3 SOs of a certain type into a power. But before SOs, you will not experience this.
Btw, there are several types of enhancements, the most important of which are: Training, Dual Origin (DOs), Single Origin (SOs) and Inventions which are also called Invention Origin (IOs). Training enhancements are pretty much crap, but it's not bad to slot the ones you get and can use. DOs you can start slotting at level 12 and with them you'll actually notice a difference, while SOs you can start slotting at lvl 22 and they are the strongest of those three types, and pretty much the standard type of enhancement in the game.
Inventions... are completely optional, but if you decide to use them you will see a marked increase in your character's power. There are two types of IOs: common IOs and set IOs. Common IOs are just like Trainings/DOs/SOs except they do not expire (meaning that once you slot them you don't have to renew them every 5 levels), and at about level 30 start being stronger than SOs. Set IOs may increase more than one property of a power, and they also give you additional set bonuses if you have more than one IO from a certain set within the same power - the endgame mostly revolves around those at the moment.
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Originally Posted by EvilDonald
Mastermind: From what I have read I only get three pets at different level tiers, (got two at the moment) and was wondering why i see videos of people with like ten or more pets? Is this a third blonde experience I am having or am I yet to discover what goes on here regarding pets? (MM Necro in case anyone is wondering)
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Originally Posted by EvilDonald
Alliances: I am currently betraying the PDD for the Resistance and are doing missions for the resistance. Why is it that I can beat the tar out of both factions if I feel like it? I thought I would just breeze past whoever I was aligned with and that they would be friendly but both seem capable of attacking at random. Is this because i am tricking one side, (the PDD) and doing resistance missions or am I just being blonde for the fourth time?
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I don't know for the resistance guys, but the PPD cops topside won't attack you unless you attack them - that's the behavior of any mobs that have yellow brackets when you select them.
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Originally Posted by EvilDonald
Lastly: What a great game! Why didn't I pick this up ages ago? Blonde moment again perhaps hehe?
 Just hoping some of you folks may be able to help here as I have to admit that this is one damn fine game and I really want to be as competent as I can and enjoy teaming up with some of you at some point. Any help appreciated guys and a big ol' thanks in advance to anyone who can help me in my quest to become "not so blonde'.Oh and no offense to anyone who is blonde, I just have a sick sense of humor.  |
EDIT: See, I started writing this when there were still no replies
Btw, on which server are you playing?
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And the Help global channel is also good for asking questions, make sure you are looking at one of your tabs that monitors the Help channel when you're asking questions in it
Its already been mentioned, but I'll repeat, to send a message to the Help channel you type /hc <message>
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Originally Posted by EvilDonald
Hi guys, brand new player playing since yesterday. Just got a couple of quick questions that I thought someone may be able to help me with if that's ok?
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| Missions: Sometimes the locations of objectives seem very vague at best, not sure if i need to be in the underground or up top when I accept some of them and often don't have a marker or anything I can identify. Mission text doesn't seem to help much and I am just wondering if I am experiencing "Blonde" moments or is this the norm? |
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| Alliances: I am currently betraying the PDD for the Resistance and are doing missions for the resistance. Why is it that I can beat the tar out of both factions if I feel like it? I thought I would just breeze past whoever I was aligned with and that they would be friendly but both seem capable of attacking at random. Is this because i am tricking one side, (the PDD) and doing resistance missions or am I just being blonde for the fourth time? |
Works for Loyalists, too - even though the PPD are officially on your side, they resent being seen as nothing more than "grunts" of Cole's Empire and really don't like being shown up by some upstart punk. So they might be tempted to drop you in some back alley and blame the Resistance.
Out of character reason: There really are no "alliances" in this game.
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Missions: The nav bar text for a mission gives a fair amount of detail about the mission, depending on where you are compared to the mission.
If you are in the mission map (whether an instanced mission map or the zone for an outdoor mission) the nav bar will give you a description of the mission objective(s), and the number you have yet to complete. Some objectives may have a map marker waypoint (open up your map, and at the bottom-right is an "Options" drop-down box - I tend to play with everything selected except Names). However, if you are not yet on the mission map itself, the text on the nav bar will give extremely limited information - typically the name of the mission and the zone in which you can find the mission door (if there is one).
Enhancements: You are mistaking the level of the enhancement for the number of them that you have. Every enhancement has a level that determines what level character can slot them - you can slot an enhancement up to 3 levels higher than your own level. Normal enhancements also cease to have any effect if they are more than three levels below your level.
Mastermind: There are indeed 3 tiers of pets, and you will get access to all of them, but you will also get different numbers of pets within each tier. You will eventually have 3 Tier 1 pets, 2 Tier 2 pets and 1 Tier 3 pet.
Alliances: The original game only had three types of targetable NPC entities: Friend (Blue target reticle), Foe (Red target reticle), and non-combatant (White target reticle). With the recent expansion (Going Rogue) a fourth type has been introduced: Neutral combatant, but these only occur in limited numbers outdoors (these are the ones with a yellow target reticle, and will turn into Foes if you attack them). Every other NPC you meet will be one of the original three types, so the fact that you are (for example) Resistance will make absolutely no difference to most NPC's you meet in missions.
I hope this helps, and I'll bet someone has beaten me to the response, because this was written at work and I've been a little busy...
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The videos of the MasterMinds with ten or so pets is easy enough to explain.
Along with the 6 pets you get from your set it is also possible to get temporary pets. Not sure how many there are but they vary from a giant robot, a buff granting witch, wolves, big shimmery monsters of plasma, and an almost efficient police officer.
I'm sure there are more but those popped into my brain.
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There's also a couple other powers a Mastermind can have that gives you more pets, though they don't count as henchmen and are therefore not controllable like henchmen are.
Hell On Earth in Demon Summoning for example summons a few Living Hellfires while Gang War in Thugs summons ten weak thug posse members. The MM secondary Dark Miasma also lets you summon a Dark Servant as its last power.
So if you're a Thugs/Dark MM, you can have your six henchmen, a thug posse of ten weak thugs and a Dark Servant.
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Originally Posted by EvilDonald
Hi guys, brand new player playing since yesterday. Just got a couple of quick questions that I thought someone may be able to help me with if that's ok?
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| Missions: Sometimes the locations of objectives seem very vague at best, not sure if i need to be in the underground or up top when I accept some of them and often don't have a marker or anything I can identify. Mission text doesn't seem to help much and I am just wondering if I am experiencing "Blonde" moments or is this the norm? |
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There is also a way to combine enhancements of the same type to extend their life. However, most of the time, it is better to sell than combine.
Dual Origin Enhancements (DOs) are twice the value of TOs, so they are often worth buying, starting at level 12. If you get short on Inf. (money), you can go to the market and "play the market" to get easy money -- You can buy salvage and some recipes for far less than they sell for at the vendor. It takes some running back and forth, but it is a no-risk way to make some Inf.
Hitting Level 22 means a huge improvement to your character because you can slot Single Origin enhancments (SOs). This is where the "no more than three" comes into effect. SOs are twice the value of DOs. You can only slot the type of SO that matches your origin (Magic, Mutant, Natural, Science or Tech), so you have to locate the vendor/store selling your type. Read up on some of the guides for recommendations on how to slot your powers -- or ask questions here.
Invention Origin enhancements (IOs) are pretty complex -- you can read up on them in Paragonwiki and the guides. It is a good idea to get to understand how the common types of enhancements work before messing with IOs. You can easily wait on IOs until level 32, and using them is entirely optional.
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| Mastermind: From what I have read I only get three pets at different level tiers, (got two at the moment) and was wondering why i see videos of people with like ten or more pets? Is this a third blonde experience I am having or am I yet to discover what goes on here regarding pets? (MM Necro in case anyone is wondering) |
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| Alliances: I am currently betraying the PDD for the Resistance and are doing missions for the resistance. Why is it that I can beat the tar out of both factions if I feel like it? I thought I would just breeze past whoever I was aligned with and that they would be friendly but both seem capable of attacking at random. Is this because i am tricking one side, (the PDD) and doing resistance missions or am I just being blonde for the fourth time? |
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Lastly: What a great game! Why didn't I pick this up ages ago? Blonde moment again perhaps hehe? Just hoping some of you folks may be able to help here as I have to admit that this is one damn fine game and I really want to be as competent as I can and enjoy teaming up with some of you at some point. Any help appreciated guys and a big ol' thanks in advance to anyone who can help me in my quest to become "not so blonde'. Oh and no offense to anyone who is blonde, I just have a sick sense of humor.
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Oh, and in this game, instead of saying "not so blonde," you can say "not so Fusionette." She is an NPC who is famous for not being very bright. (If you start a character in Paragon City, you should run the missions in Faultline starting at level 15 to get an introduction to Fusionette. She shows up again later on.)
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Originally Posted by EvilDonald
Missions: Sometimes the locations of objectives seem very vague at best, not sure if i need to be in the underground or up top when I accept some of them and often don't have a marker or anything I can identify. Mission text doesn't seem to help much and I am just wondering if I am experiencing "Blonde" moments or is this the norm?
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If yes, good! If no, then open the Menu dropdown, and select the Map option.
You currently selected mission will be displayed in the compass area at the top of the map. This will also tell you which zone you need to be in. If you have an outdoor mission objective (there's one to gather roses, for example), the objectives will show up on the map IF you have the correct option selected. Rather annoyingly, this is sometimes switched off be default for new toons. Open the Options menu (bottom right of the map) and make sure you have everything you need selected.
When you have a mission, you might sometimes lose the mission marker for some reason (commonly, you've selected something else, like a shop). To get it back, either:
- Click the white star on the map which is showing you the mission location, or.
- Go to the mission tab, click on the mission, and then click the 'Select Task' button. This should now give you a red mission marker, which will guide you to the mission.
Hope this is helpful!
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Wow! Thank you so much for the replies there guys as they have been extremely helpful. I now have some guides to oggle over and all my questions have been answered. I play on the "virtue" server and my name in game is "Badmethod". Would be nice to join a super group but yet to work out how that works so i will look into it after i have a shower this morning.
Thank you so much for the warm welcome too! I really was expecting to be called things like 'nubsauce, noob' casual, scrub' and whatever so this has been a refreshing change indeed.
Man, you guys have really blown me away here and i do mean in a positive way. I will try not to be so "Fusionette" from here on in as well hehe.
Thank you all again and hopefully i will see some of you in game.
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But I suggest you find a better phrase than "blonde moment" to describe those kinds of problems
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lol, sorry Golden girl. no offense intended hehe and I have changed that phrase to "Fusionette" as suggested above.
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I play on the "virtue" server and my name in game is "Badmethod". Would be nice to join a super group but yet to work out how that works so i will look into it after i have a shower this morning.
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. If you're interested in teaming I recommend joining the global channels "Virtue LFG Alpha" and "Virtue TFs" both are a good source for teams (the former covers all team types but the latter is mostly for Task Forces).Regarding SGs, you can check the Virtue Forums but a lot of the ones recruiting there are RP SGs which may or may not be to your liking.
EDIT: Probably should have mentioned HOW to join global channels. If you click on the word "Tab" at the top of your chat window that has a number of options for joining chat channels (you can either type in the name or search for it if you tend to spell it wrong like I do). Alternatively you can use the command /chan_join <channel name>.
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| Thank you so much for the warm welcome too! I really was expecting to be called things like 'nubsauce, noob' casual, scrub' and whatever so this has been a refreshing change indeed. |
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I'll add my welcome to the game too, and add that paragon wiki, supergroups and global channels are great tools for learning more about how to enjoy playing.
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There is often a pointer in your compass that will lead you to the next door or contact. However, I have noticed that some of the Praetorian missions don't have this, or it doesn't seem to work properly. If that is the case, you'll just have to read the mission briefing and see if you can puzzle it out. You can also bring up your map - in some cases the outdoor object that you need to click on (the roses for Cleopatra, for example) will have markers on the map, even though you don't get an objective pointer in your compass.|
Originally Posted by EvilDonald
Missions: Sometimes the locations of objectives seem very vague at best, not sure if i need to be in the underground or up top when I accept some of them and often don't have a marker or anything I can identify. Mission text doesn't seem to help much and I am just wondering if I am experiencing "Blonde" moments or is this the norm? |
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| Enhancements: Seem to buy them in stacks of five. Are these splittable into smaller stacks or do I just put five into a slot and then move to the next slot for others? I recall reading somewhere on here that any more than three of any particular enhancement eventuates in diminishing returns and I don't want to waste them if possible. (again, this could be another blonde moment, not sure) |
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| Mastermind: From what I have read I only get three pets at different level tiers, (got two at the moment) and was wondering why i see videos of people with like ten or more pets? Is this a third blonde experience I am having or am I yet to discover what goes on here regarding pets? (MM Necro in case anyone is wondering) |
You also gain two powers that exist solely to make your pets stronger. These powers are area of effect, and usually only need to be used once each after all your pets are summoned. (IE, summon all six of your minions, then apply both of the upgrade powers.) If a minion dies, the replacement does not have the upgrades applied. Because the upgrades have their endurance cost balanced against all six pets, some people choose not to upgrade the replacement minions until more than one will be affected. At the very least, it might not be a good idea to upgrade them in the middle of combat if you're running low on endurance, since this could disable your ability to use your other powers.
The Mastermind pets overall are rather complicated, and it's probably a good idea to check the Mastermind guides for more details. I happen to like Masterminds, but they aren't really an ideal starting AT, since you're adding minion control on top of everything else you're trying to learn. On the other hand, if you can figure out Masterminds, most other classes will probably seem simply by comparison. Just be aware that your pets will at least occasionally do everything in their power to get you killed. And that some players dislike Masterminds due to past experiences with ill-behaved pets. (The two main complaints are that pets will run away and find something large and toothy, and kick in in the shins for you. And that pets have a nasty tendency to block doors. Both situations can be largely avoided if you just pay attention to what your minions are doing.)
Also, just to add to the confusion, some of the Mastermind secondary sets give you "sort of" or "sometimes" pets. These are things that look like pets, and act like pets, but you can't actually order them around. Some of them will follow you, some stay where they're put, and most of them only last a certain amount of time. Some of the main sets *also* have such extra pets. Necromancers, for example, can convert a defeated minion into a ghost, which will follow them around. /Dark Miasma Masterminds can also summon a shadow pet eventually. Demon summoners can summon squads of tiny demons made of living flame, Thugs can summon a gang of street punks, and /Traps users have a number of gadgets that float, zap, shield, and explode their way across the map. Again, the guides section will probably be the fastest way to figure things out. At the very least, be sure to read the descriptions of all the available powers when you make a character. (When you make a new character, or select a new power, you can hold your mouse over a power to see a basic description of what it does, even if your character isn't allowed to actually use that power yet.)
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| Alliances: I am currently betraying the PDD for the Resistance and are doing missions for the resistance. Why is it that I can beat the tar out of both factions if I feel like it? I thought I would just breeze past whoever I was aligned with and that they would be friendly but both seem capable of attacking at random. Is this because i am tricking one side, (the PDD) and doing resistance missions or am I just being blonde for the fourth time? |
The Resistance shoot at you because (as far as the average goon knows) you're a cop, and therefore the enemy. Even if you're not. See, the people in charge don't go around announcing that you're actually a traitor working for the Resistance. That way all the spies can't blow your cover by turning you in the first chance they get. And it makes your cover more authentic. And both the PPD and the Resistance are willing to sacrifice common soldiers to get the job done, even if that means ordering their super-powered allies to mow down their own people.
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Lastly: What a great game! Why didn't I pick this up ages ago? Blonde moment again perhaps hehe? Just hoping some of you folks may be able to help here as I have to admit that this is one damn fine game and I really want to be as competent as I can and enjoy teaming up with some of you at some point. Any help appreciated guys and a big ol' thanks in advance to anyone who can help me in my quest to become "not so blonde'. Oh and no offense to anyone who is blonde, I just have a sick sense of humor.
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Originally Posted by EvilDonald
lol, sorry Golden girl. no offense intended hehe and I have changed that phrase to "Fusionette" as suggested above.
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Just another welcome to the game. If I see ya in game I'll say, "Hello." We like when new folks join the game here.
And, just to add another possibility on your pet question that I haven't seen anyone else mention, many Veteran players have 2 *really* minor pets, so that also could up the total number the Mastermind in the video you saw had. But, like everyone has said, they aren't true henchmen. Between temp powers, Vet powers, and primary and secondary, a Thugs/Dark MM may be able to get over 25 pets and henchmen, for a short time. But for the most part, MM get from 1-6, depending on level.
Hi guys, brand new player playing since yesterday. Just got a couple of quick questions that I thought someone may be able to help me with if that's ok?
Just hoping some of you folks may be able to help here as I have to admit that this is one damn fine game and I really want to be as competent as I can and enjoy teaming up with some of you at some point. Any help appreciated guys and a big ol' thanks in advance to anyone who can help me in my quest to become "not so blonde'.
Missions: Sometimes the locations of objectives seem very vague at best, not sure if i need to be in the underground or up top when I accept some of them and often don't have a marker or anything I can identify. Mission text doesn't seem to help much and I am just wondering if I am experiencing "Blonde" moments or is this the norm?
Enhancements: Seem to buy them in stacks of five. Are these splittable into smaller stacks or do I just put five into a slot and then move to the next slot for others? I recall reading somewhere on here that any more than three of any particular enhancement eventuates in diminishing returns and I don't want to waste them if possible. (again, this could be another blonde moment, not sure)
Mastermind: From what I have read I only get three pets at different level tiers, (got two at the moment) and was wondering why i see videos of people with like ten or more pets? Is this a third blonde experience I am having or am I yet to discover what goes on here regarding pets? (MM Necro in case anyone is wondering)
Alliances: I am currently betraying the PDD for the Resistance and are doing missions for the resistance. Why is it that I can beat the tar out of both factions if I feel like it? I thought I would just breeze past whoever I was aligned with and that they would be friendly but both seem capable of attacking at random. Is this because i am tricking one side, (the PDD) and doing resistance missions or am I just being blonde for the fourth time?
Lastly: What a great game! Why didn't I pick this up ages ago? Blonde moment again perhaps hehe?
Oh and no offense to anyone who is blonde, I just have a sick sense of humor.