Unfinished COH Plot threads
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Posted on: 2010-10-31 07:08 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
If by "Who is Romulus' boss?" you're really asking "Who turns him into a Nictus in the last mission of the ITF?", try running the ITF again. As of Issue 17 (I think...?) the angle on that scene changes and we see a Nictus in cloud form possessing Romulus. So to answer your question, "Some Nictus dude". The better question might be, "Who is the Nictus that possesses Romulus working for?"
(EDIT: I actually made a thread about this, complete with screenshot, the first time I saw it.)
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There are quite a few still missing...
1) The power struggle in Cimerora - just because we stomp on Romulus in the ITF, we still have Daedalus and Sister Airlia moving and countermoving each other for some greater purpose.
2) The Fifth Column and Reichsman - okay they're back... now what? (Plus the subthreads of who's defecting from which sides)
3) The Lost Cure discovered in I-12... but mass production still hasn't happened, and we still have Lost.
4) The ENTIRE Shiva story arc... we have Bloody Bay and the meteorite. Do we ever find out what they are?
5) Ms Liberty and Longbow vs Arachnos... that's gotta come to a head eventually.
6) Dark Astoria. Nuff said.
7) Crey's ultimate plans, especially in light of the Revenant Hero Project.
8) The Leviathan under Sharkhead. IT'S ALIIIIIIIVE!
These are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head, but when you troll through the in-game lore (the Paragon Wiki is great for that), there's so much there that could be used. *sighs*
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Technically, we don't get any more lost after I think level 29. And since time is kinda connected to levels and zones, the Lost ARE gone. They exist in the lower levels still, but that's like going back in time... kind of. It's weird and complicated.
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Originally Posted by Dark_Respite
3) The Lost Cure discovered in I-12... but mass production still hasn't happened, and we still have Lost.
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Not really - from what I understand the Lost when they finish mutating become Rikti, thats why if you do the Midnighter blue side arc you get Rikti spawning in the missions rather than Lost. |
Originally Posted by Zikar
Technically, we don't get any more lost after I think level 29. And since time is kinda connected to levels and zones, the Lost ARE gone. They exist in the lower levels still, but that's like going back in time... kind of. It's weird and complicated.
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So any high level Lost would actually be Rikti!
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Heralds of The Coming Storm, supposedly. Which makes me think that the upcoming Praetorian Invasion isn't it.
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Originally Posted by Dark_Respite
4) The ENTIRE Shiva story arc... we have Bloody Bay and the meteorite. Do we ever find out what they are?
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I've always wondered about the midnighters, because apart from the small mini arcs, there isnt really any story there. Just a service station on the way to the main destination.
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Very cool shot. The only time I did the ITF things were happening so fast (and with a fair amount of lag thrown in for fun) that I barely recall even seeing Romulus, nevermind grasped what was happening.
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Originally Posted by DarkGob
(EDIT: I actually made a thread about this, complete with screenshot, the first time I saw it.)
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The Coming Storm clearly has something to do with Bloody Bay. Okay, so nobody can be certain that Silos is telling the truth, but I'll take him at his word when he describes the Shivans from the meteor you have to destroy while Lazarus stands around twiddling his thumbs as the Storm's "scouts." Also, I believe the letter writer to be the Dream Doctor, since he wrote in "Why I Left and Why You Must Stay" that "Something is coming and [he] must find out what it is before it's too late." Sounds like a Coming Storm to me, and the presence of a Pillar in the Midnighter Club makes me even more inclined to believe there is a connection.
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That's *exactly* how I view it, as well, because that seems to be the intent. Dr. Vahzilok has been defeated, so his minions are likewise gone, and so forth. In CoH, space *is* time.|
Originally Posted by Zikar
Technically, we don't get any more lost after I think level 29. And since time is kinda connected to levels and zones, the Lost ARE gone. They exist in the lower levels still, but that's like going back in time... kind of. It's weird and complicated.
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The cognitive dissonance problem happens when you roll an alt. Essentially what you're doing is creating a character whose life is starting at pretty much the same time your previous character's did. Ignore that linear time has passed in the real world, you always start around 2005 in the tutorial. You kind of have to look at the game from the perspective of a single-player game such as Mass Effect. Starting over means rewinding the movie to the beginning, except with a different lead character.
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Originally Posted by Ironik
That's *exactly* how I view it, as well, because that seems to be the intent. Dr. Vahzilok has been defeated, so his minions are likewise gone, and so forth. In CoH, space *is* time.
The cognitive dissonance problem happens when you roll an alt. Essentially what you're doing is creating a character whose life is starting at pretty much the same time your previous character's did. Ignore that linear time has passed in the real world, you always start around 2005 in the tutorial. You kind of have to look at the game from the perspective of a single-player game such as Mass Effect. Starting over means rewinding the movie to the beginning, except with a different lead character. |
So when we see a player we just teamed with on our 50 but now on our level 1s, they are flashbacking to this time to warn us of the rikti invading us again?
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Oh and the Battalion, they were only mentioned once, but I think that it's one of those bigger picture story lines with the Rikti.
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sounds like a nemesis plot... but nice theory
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Originally Posted by flashrains
The Coming Storm clearly has something to do with Bloody Bay. Okay, so nobody can be certain that Silos is telling the truth, but I'll take him at his word when he describes the Shivans from the meteor you have to destroy while Lazarus stands around twiddling his thumbs as the Storm's "scouts." Also, I believe the letter writer to be the Dream Doctor, since he wrote in "Why I Left and Why You Must Stay" that "Something is coming and [he] must find out what it is before it's too late." Sounds like a Coming Storm to me, and the presence of a Pillar in the Midnighter Club makes me even more inclined to believe there is a connection.
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Well, there has to be a Nemesis plot involved somewhere, of course. This IS Ouroboros we're talking about.|
Originally Posted by Vel_Overload
sounds like a nemesis plot... but nice theory
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Come to think of it, the writing style between the letters and "Why I Left" is pretty similar too...
Let's speak a bit of Shiva meteors, the Coming Storm, and i19. There's nothing in Praetorian history that suggests the Shivan meteor wouldn't have hit, right? What if, in this case, whatever the Shivans are got "Devoured" by Hamidon (or vice-versa?). That might be an explanation of the creature's radically different appearance and level of success, no?
thats a bummer, I always thought there was some other Big Bad just off camera. Knowing it's just a Nictus kinda kills the cut scene.
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Why can't a Nictus be the Big bad? What if it's Dirge of Entropy or some other big wig?
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Originally Posted by warden_de_dios
thats a bummer, I always thought there was some other Big Bad just off camera. Knowing it's just a Nictus kinda kills the cut scene. |
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Actually, it's a ball of colored cotton being held on strings by Nemesis, who's just out of shot.
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Originally Posted by warden_de_dios
thats a bummer, I always thought there was some other Big Bad just off camera. Knowing it's just a Nictus kinda kills the cut scene.
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I still think that Ms Liberty is heading down the road to becoming a Vigilante, if not an out-right Villain. I mean come on, sinking civilian oil tankers en route to the Rogue Isles? She hit that one off Port Oakes so hard that oil splashed on top of several buildings in the dock area!
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Originally Posted by Dark_Respite
5) Ms Liberty and Longbow vs Arachnos... that's gotta come to a head eventually.
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Ms. Liberty becoming as Vigilante would make Statesman quite angsty, which could make him quite hawt.
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You have to run the Kheldian arcs to see what the Nictus had planned. (Though you do get a "what might have been" glimpse into what happens if the Kheldians don't stop them via Unai.) |
Originally Posted by Arilou
* The entire Council/Nictus/Requiem plot (that may or may not be connected to the above) they've had a lot of spotlight, but its not really been satisfactorily concluded (Is Requiem with the Council or the Column in the present? What are the Nictus up to? Who is Romulus boss? Etc. ) And what's the Center's role in all of this? It has a lot of (often confusing) material, but it doesen' feel "finished".
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| * Nemesis plots. Assuming he has a big one, and not just a couple of smaller schemes. |
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| * The Banished Pantheon. They have to be up to SOMETHING and their story arc is never really concluded in a satisfactory way. When are they going to wake up Lughebu anyway? |
That said,
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Originally Posted by Dark_Respite
4) The ENTIRE Shiva story arc... we have Bloody Bay and the meteorite. Do we ever find out what they are?
6) Dark Astoria. Nuff said. |
(As for the Shivans - yes, listed as scouts for the Coming Storm.)
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| 7) Crey's ultimate plans, especially in light of the Revenant Hero Project. |
Threw an MA arc together touching on that some time ago (Hero Corpse,) actually. I still think it'd be interesting to see officially.
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Originally Posted by Robo_Knight
Oh and the Battalion, they were only mentioned once, but I think that it's one of those bigger picture story lines with the Rikti.
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It's implied that the Shiva entity has a sentience behind it. So if it didn't hit in Praetoria, or on the Rikti Homeworld, or wherever, it's possibly because it didn't feel like it.|
Originally Posted by Lazarillo
Let's speak a bit of Shiva meteors, the Coming Storm, and i19. There's nothing in Praetorian history that suggests the Shivan meteor wouldn't have hit, right? What if, in this case, whatever the Shivans are got "Devoured" by Hamidon (or vice-versa?). That might be an explanation of the creature's radically different appearance and level of success, no?
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Originally Posted by warden_de_dios
thats a bummer, I always thought there was some other Big Bad just off camera. Knowing it's just a Nictus kinda kills the cut scene.
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| I expect I19 will do something similar with the Praetorian invasion plot and the Reichsman/5th Column return plot seems to be done as well. |
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| * The Ouroboros/Letter Writer/Coming Storm plot. That is, assuming the praetorian invasion is NOT the Coming Storm. |
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| * Nemesis plots. Assuming he has a big one, and not just a couple of smaller schemes. |
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| * Rularuu, Darrin Wade is trying to bring him here (unless th CoP deals with that? Not done CoP) |
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Okay, I'm one of those crazy people who actually care about the COH story, and I'm thinking, what unfinished plot threads are there?
I mean, the Rikti plot seems (more or less) finished, the invasion is over, we know what happened to Hero1, the truth about Nemesis' plot is out. It can be kickstarted again, but it's more or less had a satisfactory conclusion.
I expect I19 will do something similar with the Praetorian invasion plot and the Reichsman/5th Column return plot seems to be done as well.
That leaves as far as I can see:
* The Ouroboros/Letter Writer/Coming Storm plot. That is, assuming the praetorian invasion is NOT the Coming Storm.
* The entire Council/Nictus/Requiem plot (that may or may not be connected to the above) they've had a lot of spotlight, but its not really been satisfactorily concluded (Is Requiem with the Council or the Column in the present? What are the Nictus up to? Who is Romulus boss? Etc. ) And what's the Center's role in all of this? It has a lot of (often confusing) material, but it doesen' feel "finished".
* Nemesis plots. Assuming he has a big one, and not just a couple of smaller schemes.
* The Banished Pantheon. They have to be up to SOMETHING and their story arc is never really concluded in a satisfactory way. When are they going to wake up Lughebu anyway?
* Rularuu, Darrin Wade is trying to bring him here (unless th CoP deals with that? Not done CoP)
Anything else I've missed?
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