Unfinished COH Plot threads
I wonder if Keith Nance ever wishes he had his elite government ninjas back?
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Y'know, I used to play the game with the mentality "click here to beat things up" and didn't read anything but the Trial Zone dialogue (Hollows, Faultline, Striga, Croatoa); but lately I've been reading as much contact dialogue as possible. It all kind of mixes because I can't tell which contacts are older than each other, but it's nice to be getting all these facts that I've been missing up until now.
I also found it interesting that by "updating" the Praetorian arcs (which I did read through the first time), they didn't just retcon it all. EDIT: They should really pay the storywriting dev(s) overtime to play through every storyarc in the game before they write anything new. |
"Here - start by going back over ALL the arcs, badges, plaques, etc, and cleaning up names, spelling, grammar, text highlights (so you know what the mission focus is), etc. (This alone would take ages.) Next up is tweaking earlier arcs that really would benefit from just having new maps/enemies/mechanics, but where you're not really messing with the arcs' stories. (This is the bring-the-game-up-to-speed overhaul.) Third, go through each contact's missions, and for all the non-story-arc filler missions, plot ideas for better one-offs that fit that contact, enemy group, and origin."
Leave the full-blown story writing and TF writing and whatnot to the more senior or experienced devs, and give the tedious-but-God-knows-the-game-needs-it-grunt-work to a low level intern who'd happily do it for grunt pay to get their foot in the door of the industry.
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Actually, I think that'd make a fantastic 'internship' at CoH.
"Here - start by going back over ALL the arcs, badges, plaques, etc, and cleaning up names, spelling, grammar, text highlights (so you know what the mission focus is), etc. (This alone would take ages.) Next up is tweaking earlier arcs that really would benefit from just having new maps/enemies/mechanics, but where you're not really messing with the arcs' stories. (This is the bring-the-game-up-to-speed overhaul.) Third, go through each contact's missions, and for all the non-story-arc filler missions, plot ideas for better one-offs that fit that contact, enemy group, and origin." Leave the full-blown story writing and TF writing and whatnot to the more senior or experienced devs, and give the tedious-but-God-knows-the-game-needs-it-grunt-work to a low level intern who'd happily do it for grunt pay to get their foot in the door of the industry. |
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Actually, I think that'd make a fantastic 'internship' at CoH. "Here - start by going back over ALL the arcs, badges, plaques, etc, and cleaning up names, spelling, grammar, text highlights (so you know what the mission focus is), etc. (This alone would take ages.) Next up is tweaking earlier arcs that really would benefit from just having new maps/enemies/mechanics, but where you're not really messing with the arcs' stories. (This is the bring-the-game-up-to-speed overhaul.) Third, go through each contact's missions, and for all the non-story-arc filler missions, plot ideas for better one-offs that fit that contact, enemy group, and origin." Leave the full-blown story writing and TF writing and whatnot to the more senior or experienced devs, and give the tedious-but-God-knows-the-game-needs-it-grunt-work to a low level intern who'd happily do it for grunt pay to get their foot in the door of the industry. Michelle aka Samuraiko/Dark_Respite |
Seriously, who should I email about this?
They need to have the Praetorian version of the Gamester, the mysterious villains behind the 2005 Xmas event. They could call him the Re-Gifter or something fun
What ever happened to Flower Knight after that first hero mission?
What ever happened to Spirit Drum and the rest of those interesting Korean Heros?
The Vahilzok branched out and became Meat Doctors. What other groups had people move into higher status mobs? Are there Troll Warriors?
What ever happened with that Chosen storyine for COV where some psychic thought you were going to do something important.
Why don't Praetorians have pets like the little robots or other pets people get?
What was up with those possessed scientists in the high level hero zone?
If Apex is coming back where is the Weevil?
Where did all that "meat" for Dr Vahilzok's meat armor come from?
What ever happened to Flower Knight after that first hero mission? |
What ever happened to Spirit Drum and the rest of those interesting Korean Heros? |
Are there Troll Warriors? |
What ever happened with that Chosen storyine for COV where some psychic thought you were going to do something important. |
Where did all that "meat" for Dr Vahilzok's meat armor come from? |
Feel free to correct me on anything I was wrong about. >_>;;
Let's speak a bit of Shiva meteors, the Coming Storm, and i19. There's nothing in Praetorian history that suggests the Shivan meteor wouldn't have hit, right? What if, in this case, whatever the Shivans are got "Devoured" by Hamidon (or vice-versa?). That might be an explanation of the creature's radically different appearance and level of success, no?
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1989 CE Kurrin Wirake finds an Arcosian pod which led to the Australian military confiscating it and Dr. Seetha Neremanu quickly deciphering it's purpose and message. Dr. Neremanu alerted the UN immediately that a planet destroying entity was on it's way to Earth and it would reach Earth in a year. The entity was named Shiva and a project to save the Earth, Operation Vishnu, was formed. A group of volunteer heroes from Russia, America, China, and France were put together, called the Preservers, and they launched themselves into space to stop Shiva with a nuclear strike. The explosion was detected and Shiva vanished from sensors, but the Preservers were lost. Summer - A rain of meteorites, presumably from the remains of Shiva, hit Bloody Bay, causing the entire area to be radioactive, and soon after Shivans began appearing all over the area. |
The story writers at Paragon Studios are bound to get around to some of this stuff sooner or later. In the interim though, some players should get together and form a community standards consortium, for voting on AE arcs that could be considered acceptable "Official Unofficial Canon", so we can start wrapping up these plot holes.
Try to get a sticky thread, the devs nod of approval, or even a community made website. Set up polls and let the community at large put in their votes, rather than just relying on a committee's biases. Couldn't hurt, and after all, this is one of the reasons they gave us AE in the first place.
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But I have my own thoughts as well. The fact that the Ghost Slaying Axe (a veteran reward that only deals very high damage to undead creatures) works on these entities suggests that they are the undead remnants of a massive entity that once made its way across the cosmos, devouring worlds along the way (a good hero named Unionite first informed me about the Ghost Slaying Axe). Or perhaps these creatures aren't "Shivans" at all, but the released souls of countless victims from countless other solar systems. The truth is out there!
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Don't know how official it is but I've always heard that they are human corpses reanimated by the shivan shards.
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I think that's safe to call official.
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Heck, we *can* do it now, using AE. Why not list the arcs in their own thread, and each of us grab one and AE it?
The Rikti Restructurist vs. Traditionalist rift. There are a lot of storylines that deal with the fact that the Traditionalists are trying to make peace with humanity and the Restructurists are getting increasingly militant, but it's never fully wrapped up.
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Personally, I think the mysterious letter writer is Nemesis (I know, boring!). Hes clever enough to work multi-dimensionally so I wouldnt put it past him to try and counter the plots of his future self. The taunting and smug style of writing fit the character too.
As for Shiva, I think the Preservers mission only destroyed the advance party, buying us a few more years. Theres far worse out there on its way, especially with the Menders reference to the Shivans as scouts. The reason they class as undead is, I believe, due to the radioactive energy using the bodies of those who died when the meteorite hit rather than the dead souls of aliens.
Ive already stated that I think that the Battalion is the Coming Storm and that well need the help of the Rikti to defeat them given that they managed to beat them out of their dimension before. However, as were not ready to fight them, well have to unlock the power of the Incarnate to do so, hence going back to Cimerora for the history and the upcoming i19 TFs. The Praetorians are tough sure, but in the end, its one man and his robot army (with advanced tech admittedly) but I dont think that will be the entire Incarnate content. I suspect full Incarnates will be the only people capable of handling the might of the Coming Storm when it arrives.
As for other arcs Id like completed? Given how much the Thorns plague us throughout our careers, Id really like to see some kind of strike against them in the upper levels. Unlike the other persistent villains, the Freakshow, we dont really get anything epic with them in to finish their story off.
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How many people there think all of the Preservers died on their mission, and how many think that one or more of them survived with a Hero 1-style makeover and became radioactive mutated super-beings working with the Shivans?
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Me too. Get a group of us willing to do it for credit, get another group as testers/QA, and call it unpaid internships. Heck, I'd be more than willing to do it using AE first, so that no proprietory NCSoft information is risked. Divide them among those of us willing to do it, and let's do it!
Heck, we *can* do it now, using AE. Why not list the arcs in their own thread, and each of us grab one and AE it? |
So, I guess, I'd be up for participating in and even helping to organize something like this, so long as it remains something civil and cooperative, not a forum for self-appointed arbiters of taste to trash one another's efforts.
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The Vahilzok branched out and became Meat Doctors. What other groups had people move into higher status mobs? Are there Troll Warriors?
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Another group whose members may move up are the Skyraiders (a Nemesis soldier shows up in one of their missions, and there is the Lockhardt Aerotech connection between the Skyraiders and Nemesis). Canon doesn't state that they do, but they could. Hellions might also graduate to the Warriors.
What ever happened with that Chosen storyine for COV where some psychic thought you were going to do something important. |
What was up with those possessed scientists in the high level hero zone? |
I'd be up for helping out with a project with such an epic scope. Unfortunately, I'm afraid trying to run it through AE and the fora would result in a lot of back-and-forth and ultimate project collapse as different participants' views of the system clash. (For instance, some feel one should NEVER use archvillains, or NEVER specify anything about the character playing the arc, while others play more fast and loose with those rules. There's also a strong feeling in the AE community that "just for fun" missions don't belong in this game, that everything must be a profoundly characterized, life-changing experience, while others aren't so particular. Personally, I think there are roles for all these things.)
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Specifying anything about the character playing the arc is also a big no-no, since as a canon expansion project it would have to assume you're using the same character you played through the canon arcs with. Which could be anyone.
I don't know where you got the impression that "just for fun" missions are frowned upon by the AE community (one of the most vocal supporters pretty much publishes nothing but comedy, and some "critically acclaimed" arcs are definitely on the "just for fun" side) unless you've been reading too much into a certain poster who has a habit of stating his personal opinion as absolute fact. What would not belong here is simple "fluff" missions: The Continuing Adventures of Lord Nemesis in the Shadow Shard and such. When you create an arc that claims to tie up a loose plot thread, I expect it to be more or less serious (although a few jokes or a lighthearted tone are certainly fine, as long as they're not at the expense of the story), to be plausible in the context of existing canon, and for the author to have done their research.
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Speaking of incomplete zone pieces, how's about that construction atop Steel Canyon? It was even shown on a map-poster (the one that came with the Good Vs Evil edition?) that there was supposed to be an addition to Steel Canyon...