Oh, yeah - I would have forgotten! Thanks for the reminder.
ONE HOUR AND FIFTEEN MINUTES!
AMC is showing the first two episodes again, right now. Rick, Morgan and Duane just left the PD (episode one).
Looks magnificent on my new 22" ViewSonic VX2250-wm LED LCD.
Second episode is running, FORTY FIVE MINUTES TO EPISODE THREE!
TEN MINUTES! O_O 
And the forum auto-correct anti-Caps Lock feature is annoying.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand GO!
SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
I have zero sympathy for Shane and negative sympathy for Laurie. Cripes, Rick's body wasn't even cold and she's moving on and he's moving in. They managed to make her even less sympathetic than the comic version.
Wondering if there's redemption in Merle's future. The sheer grotesqueness of his personality is so overwhelming, it would make it that much more satisfying if he were to turn around and become a decent human being.
Beautiful reunion. But now I hate Shane and Laurie even more, keep hoping that they'll both get devoured. Shane looked disappointed when Rick appeared, and you could see the panic in Laurie's eyes as she tried to deny the reality of having to go back to her husband.
On again, back to it!
There's your archer, Swellguy! Looks like a 170-200lb draw.
Rick is the most heroic, stupidest person ever!
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Scud! Merle's brother is Scud! I knew I remembered the face and voice from somewhere!
My thought on the survivor group?
"How many ******** do we have on this ship?"
"Ben is short for Frank."
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Scud! Merle's brother is Scud! I knew I remembered the face and voice from somewhere!
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Edit - Hmm...also, not painting the South in a particularly generous light...
I do wish they'd turn down the character cliches down a bit.
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Huh. I'm surprised to say that my judgment of Laurie may have been premature. Her complete rejection of Shane convinced me that she really had been lied to and used. I get the feeling that the marital problems with Rick will continue, and be compounded by Laurie's guilt, but I despise her less now that I don't believe she knowingly abandoned her husband.
Shane... on the one hand, I want to believe he's good, honest and truly trying to help as many people as he can, because he does seem to care about most of the survivors... but on the other hand, he lied to Laurie and Carl, he's set himself up as god and king of his own little nation and attacking Ed may have been nothing more than a way for him to work off his aggression over the confrontation with Laurie. There's going to be a reckoning between him and Rick at some point, but I could be convinced that he'll come through in the end, depending on his future actions.
Merle... ugh! Why didn't he cut through the bolt on the pipe, or the handcuffs? He snapped, I'm sure of it. He'll be back in the next episode, completely bonkers. Good setting for a lot of tension and drama with his brother, Daryl.
And now we have a second party of survivors to contend with. There had to be some out there, somewhere, but right in the middle of the city, not even very far from the department store... this will be interesting.
Only three episodes left... waiting for the second season to start is going to be hell. I suppose I'll pass the time by going through my bug-out bag and camping gear again, seeing what else I can pack or need to buy. Still need to figure out how to mount those 5L jerry cans to my moped... *twitch*
Zombies at the door, panic sets in, you saw off what's fastest. But how did he get off the roof of a multistory building with one hand and not be street pizza for zombies?
Shane took advantage of the situation. No sympathy for him. I don't blame Laurie because we have no idea how long it's been. It may have taken Shane a quite a bit of time to wear her down.
As for Shane's leadership, he's being very conservative with the limited resources they have. But his points were quite valid. If it wasn't for the weapons cache, I could see him rally people to his side since Merle had few friends among the group.
As for the stereotypical redneck in a wife beater, again the more removed from the rest of civilization you are, the less likely you would have likely been overrun. I'm guessing that they really didn't have a lot of neighbors nearby before the ZA so he could get away with his archaic attitudes. I'm betting these are the first women his wife has been able to socialize with in a very long time.
Of course Shane going off on him was a bit much. Authority good, tyranny bad.
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this show is growing on me....I hope it stays around for a while (well so long as they can pull from the comics and Kirkman), because imo it is one of the better shows on television right now.
My question is this.....since when are zombies intelligent enough to pick something up and (ie a chuck of concrete) and bash against a glass door until it shatters???
Having warched the previous episode where the hell did the guy that was handcuffed on the roof??? The zombies would have tried in vain to get that door open to get to him and I am sure that they still would have been there when the rescue group showed up.....How did he get down from the roof?? Why didnt he hacksaw through the small metal rod that he was handcuffed to?? Sure the zombies were trying to get at him, however it would have made more sense to saw at the metal before hacking your hand off......
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To clear up the timeframe bit...
*****SPOILERS*****
In the comic, Laurie finds out she's pregnant. Dale advisers her to take the secret of the (potential) father to the grave. She can't know for sure if it was Shane or if it was Rick. That says that the timeframe is short enough, i.e. maybe a month since Rick went into the coma, that she could pass the child off as a premie from when her and Rick hook-up when they meet again. Anything longer than that and it would be unmistakeable that Rick was not the father.
However, given that it was a single hook-up in the comic vs a continuing hook-up in the show, as well as the not-guaranteed nature of pregnancy, it could have been a lot longer.
*SPOILER END*
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*****SPOILERS*****
Dale advisers her to take the secret of the (potential) father to the grave. *SPOILER END* |
*****SPOILERS*****
Which doesn't take that long.
*SPOILER END*
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That bugged me at first too, and then I figured there was probably access to a fire escape.|
Originally Posted by Father Xmas
Zombies at the door, panic sets in, you saw off what's fastest. But how did he get off the roof of a multistory building with one hand and not be street pizza for zombies?
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As for the stereotypical redneck in a wife beater, again the more removed from the rest of civilization you are, the less likely you would have likely been overrun. I'm guessing that they really didn't have a lot of neighbors nearby before the ZA so he could get away with his archaic attitudes. I'm betting these are the first women his wife has been able to socialize with in a very long time.
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Originally Posted by Father Xmas
Of course Shane going off on him was a bit much. Authority good, tyranny bad.
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Originally Posted by Sevenpenny
My question is this.....since when are zombies intelligent enough to pick something up and (ie a chuck of concrete) and bash against a glass door until it shatters???
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Originally Posted by Sevenpenny
Having warched the previous episode where the hell did the guy that was handcuffed on the roof??? The zombies would have tried in vain to get that door open to get to him and I am sure that they still would have been there when the rescue group showed up.....How did he get down from the roof?? Why didnt he hacksaw through the small metal rod that he was handcuffed to?? Sure the zombies were trying to get at him, however it would have made more sense to saw at the metal before hacking your hand off......
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And he had zero expectation that there would be a rescue group, so no motivation to wait. As I mentioned before I bet there is a fire escape, or access to a fire escape someplace. Avoiding the walkers on the ground leaking blood-smell is going to be hard though.
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It's pretty clear Merle went a bit loopy to cut his own hand off instead of the chain of the cuffs or bar that they were connected to. Sure I guess you could argue his hand would be quicker to cut than those other things but really I think it was mostly just a choice to add a bit of shock to the scene. |
Originally Posted by Father Xmas
Zombies at the door, panic sets in, you saw off what's fastest. But how did he get off the roof of a multistory building with one hand and not be street pizza for zombies?
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The real problem I have is that apparently Merle found another way to get off the roof that the zombies didn't find to get up to him. If there was a "fire escape" why didn't the zombies use it to get to him? I guess what we'll learn is that he did something really stupid like jump over to another building without killing himself. My guess for him is that he'll die anyway (probably next episode) but he'll die saving his brother or some-such that'll be tragically/ironically heroic.
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If you think about it these three characters are playing out a variation of the King Arthur (Rick), Guinevere (Laurie) and Lancelot (Shane) love-triangle relationship.
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As I understand it, most fire escapes do not reach all the way to the ground - for security. You lower them the last distance from the escape itself. So the zombies couldn't have used it.|
Originally Posted by Lothic
The real problem I have is that apparently Merle found another way to get off the roof that the zombies didn't find to get up to him. If there was a "fire escape" why didn't the zombies use it to get to him?
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The jumping option may have merit as an option, though. I did not notice how close any other structures were.
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Originally Posted by Chyll
As I understand it, most fire escapes do not reach all the way to the ground - for security. You lower them the last distance from the escape itself. So the zombies couldn't have used it.
The jumping option may have merit as an option, though. I did not notice how close any other structures were. |
Still given that the show already went as far as to have Merle cut his own hand off I don't think it'd be too "fantastic" for them to have him jump to a slightly lower adjacent roof-top.
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I normally avoid television but a co-worker was raving about this show so I checked it out for the first time last night. I watched all 3 episodes (although I missed about 20 mins of the first one). I have to say it was a lot better than I expected it would be. I'll have to check out the first episode again on Hulu. I wish they had more episodes though. Does anyone know where I can watch all of the episodes online?
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Originally Posted by Lothic
The zombies had the run of the entire building except the roof. I am well aware that fire escapes don't typically allow for ground access to go up for security reasons. But they could have reasonably gone half-way up the building inside then get on the hypothetical fire escape to get to the top.
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Still given that the show already went as far as to have Merle cut his own hand off I don't think it'd be too "fantastic" for them to have him jump to a slightly lower adjacent roof-top.
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I do not accept cutting the hand off as 'fantastic', however. There are sufficient real life examples to convince me it is more than believable under the circumstances.
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THREE HOUR MARK!
Get your axes and canned food in position, boil up some water (coffee- or tea-flavored, as you prefer) and memorize the quickest route to the nearest commode!