Titles. What gives?


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So I remembered that one of the origin titles for Magic was "Last," which is perfect for my scrapper, but then remembered that only villains can pick it. This makes no sense, and there are other titles that make equally little or even less sense:

Heroes, but not villains, can be Startling, Ultimate, Gargantuan, Overcharged, Wanton, Arcane, Baffling, Dread, Frightening, Ghostly, Haunted, Occult, Petrifying, Supernatural, Terrifying, Unknowable, Audacious, Bizarre, Colossal, Eerie, Freaky, Humongous, Incomprehensible, Ominous, Strange, Tremendous, Unnatural, Horrifying, Lone, Mysterious, Unfathomable, Indescribable, Otherworldly, Unearthly, Crafty, Indestructible, Mechanical, Outlandish, or Titanic.

Villains, but not heroes, can be Potent, Exiled, Innocent (seriously, wtf?), Ancient, Enigmatic, Last, Preternatural, Quintessential, Undying, Extreme, Jurassic, Untamed, Wild, Zoomorphic, Elusive, Unseen, Irradiated, Omnipotent, Revolutionary, Synthetic, Automated, Electrifying, Formidable, Grave, High-tech, Ingenious, Mechanized, Quantum, Robotic, or Voltaic.

On top of all that, even some of the titles that are available to both alignments are out of sync: Any hero can be Powerful, but only a Tech villain can; Mutant heroes and Science villains can be Weird, but not vice-versa.

And on top of THAT, plenty of titles like Synthetic, Honorable, Brilliant, and Grim are unavailable to origins for which they would be at least as fitting (no Synthetic tech characters, no Grim magic characters, no Brilliant science characters, no Honorable natural characters, etc).


I can't be the only one who thinks this is completely out of whack. Am I the only one? Please say I'm not the only one. All titles available to all characters (excluding veteran titles, which would still need to be earned, of course), yes/no?


 

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I agree, and I think titles should be revamped to work like booster packs. Origin themed, but not origin locked.


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Originally Posted by IanTheM1 View Post
I've said before that it would be sensible to make it so that titles of your origin unlock at 25, the rest at 35.
But the entire point of the suggestion is, there would be no Origin linked titles.


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I've said before that it would be sensible to make it so that titles of your origin unlock at 25, the rest at 35.
That would still mean a Science-origin hero could be Honorable before a Natural one could, which doesn't make any more sense than the way it is now.


I'm still scratching my head about Innocent being villain-only, btw.


 

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I know a lot of criminals who claim they're innocent


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/Signed. Unlock first title at 15, which lets you pick one from any of them
Then the second unlock at...whenever it is, again from any.


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/Signed. Unlock first title at 15, which lets you pick one from any of them
Then the second unlock at...whenever it is, again from any.
25.


 

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...Wait, people use titles?

Just being facetious. Yes, such things need to be reevaluated.


 

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It's worth noting that Praetorians can't be any of the above. Or anything at all. Their title field is blank, even though the trainer is like "Grats, you can have titles now!"


 

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Originally Posted by TwilightPhoenix View Post
It's worth noting that Praetorians can't be any of the above. Or anything at all. Their title field is blank, even though the trainer is like "Grats, you can have titles now!"
Once they pick a side (blue or red) they get access to the standard lists for that faction and their chosen origin. Just means they can't get titles at all until they go to primal at 20ish.



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Originally Posted by Lemur Lad View Post
I know a lot of criminals who claim they're innocent
Yeah, but the real stumper is that heroes CAN'T be.


 

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Yeah, but the real stumper is that heroes CAN'T be.
No one is accusing them of crimes


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Originally Posted by Riley_Delacroix View Post
Once they pick a side (blue or red) they get access to the standard lists for that faction and their chosen origin. Just means they can't get titles at all until they go to primal at 20ish.

Oh I know. I just don't see why Praetorians can't get any titles at 15 (or in Praetoria for that matter), whether cut and pastes or their own.


 

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Yes.


A game is not supposed to be some kind of... place where people enjoy themselves!

 

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No one is accusing them of crimes
There's others, but off the top of my head, I reccomend that you redo Keith Nance's arc and the level 50 Hero Morality mission (The Unusual Suspect).


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I think they should just do away with choosable titles altogether and just let you type your own up.


 

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And the GMs will instantly be overrun genericing titles like "Well-Hung" and such.


@Roderick

 

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And the GMs will instantly be overrun genericing titles like "Well-Hung" and such.
And that is the real reason they won't allow us to make four-legged toons. It has nothing to do with the new skeletons, and the time/work that would be required fixing costumes, and animations for every single power in the game! It's just so that I can't make a centaur toon named "Like a Horse".


 

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And the GMs will instantly be overrun genericing titles like "Well-Hung" and such.
Oh, yes. Let people name their MM pets, heck, let people create entire missions, but NO CUSTOM TITLES! NO CUSTOM TITLES BECAUSE THAT COULD BE CENSOR WORTHY!


 

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Originally Posted by flashrains View Post
That would still mean a Science-origin hero could be Honorable before a Natural one could, which doesn't make any more sense than the way it is now.


I'm still scratching my head about Innocent being villain-only, btw.
Because heroes are assumed to be innocent. Meanwhile you could have a villain who's only a villain because of circumstance and the majority of the populace assuming he's guilty.


 

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I was really unhappy when I moved my stalker blue side and had to pick a new title. Unhappy enough that I'm probably going to move him back.

I don't have a problem with origin linked titles, but in our Brave New World it's ridiculous that they're limited by faction.


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Like I said. Remove the current title system altogether and just let players type one in.


 

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And again, they would be overrun trying to censor the inapropriate titles, just as much or even more than they are having to take time out of their busy schedules to censor the innapropriate names now. As much as I would love to see our own titles in the game, I see the potential for idiots to cost the GMs precious time just censoring the bad ones. I would however be all for just dropping the origin and alignment restrictions on the titles we have now.


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