Timetraveller in Charlie Chaplin film?
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Posted on: 2010-10-27 04:21 in Comic and Hero-Villain Culture
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Nicola Tesla, duh.
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Originally Posted by Diggis
Yeah, sure. But who is s/he talking too on that phone? No Cell towers, no other cell phones. Don't buy it.
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Originally Posted by Marcian Tobay
I have a guess.
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*sigh*
After watching it a couple times, it's pretty obvious: Capt. Janeway in disguise talking to Chakotay.
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"She's shading her face from the sun or the wind" was my first thought... not 'oh my god... time traveller!"|
Originally Posted by Lemur Lad
What the guy sees as an object, I see as a harsh shadow typical of "live" footage of the day.
She wasn't talking on any device, she was walking behind her husband. Her hand was up to shade her face from the bright sunlight. Her fingers were bent because she's old and there weren't many treatments for arthritis back then. As for the "looks like a man" ********? She looks old. That's all, old. Guy clearly has never heard of Occam's Razor. Or if he had he's forgotten to use it. |
I mean, I'm crazy... but ... damn.
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Now they're saying it's an ear trumpet, a low-tech hearing device.|
Originally Posted by TheBruteSquad
"She's shading her face from the sun or the wind" was my first thought... not 'oh my god... time traveller!"
I mean, I'm crazy... but ... damn. |
I still vote it's the Tesla-phone #2. (He had the original, of course. She's just the wife of his backer. Twain had the third one.)
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Hey, they had thin and light hearing aids back in '28 too.|
Originally Posted by Durakken
#1 it's too thin for that time period
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| #2 the person is clearly talking |
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Has anyone considered the possibility that she could just be a crazy old woman?
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Originally Posted by Mister Liberty
Has anyone considered the possibility that she could just be a crazy old woman?
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Ah, my observation skills need work, Dark.
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Occam's Razor called.
He hates you.
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or man shes fugly.
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Originally Posted by Mister Liberty
Has anyone considered the possibility that she could just be a crazy old woman?
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Who is "they" in this case? Some reporters? (rhetorical question, I read the piece)|
Originally Posted by Ironik
Now they're saying it's an ear trumpet, a low-tech hearing device.
I still vote it's the Tesla-phone #2. (He had the original, of course. She's just the wife of his backer. Twain had the third one.) |
It's just more speculation from random examiners. The assumption being made is there's an actual object there, and I'm not convinced.
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Occam's Razor states that whoever can speak in a more condescending and dismissive voice wins. Really, try it.|
Originally Posted by james_joyce
Occam's Razor called.
He hates you. |
"You think it's that complicated? That someone invented time travel, went back in time, and decided to freak people out with a cell phone, all for the laughs? Really."
vs.
"You think it's that complicated? That someone deaf got hired for a movie, took it upon themselves to give their own blocking and orders, and managed to slip past in the movie without editors noticing? Really."
Dont get me wrong here, but if you can time travel, why on earth would you waste what might be a once in a lifetime chance to insert yourself into an obscure 1920's film?
Srsly.
And if it was a repeatable experiment, why isnt this showing up in more bits of the past?
Where are the temporal cops?
Supposing that it is possible, and it is a time traveler, just by showing up like that, there exists the chance of a temporal ripple that will erase her in the future because she has been seen in the past. Wouldn't that suck? To pull a stunt like that, only to return to your own time only to be erased by your own prank.
Anyways, tl;dr. Its not a cell phone. She's not a time traveler. Who ever this guy that watches old films for stuff like this really needs a new hobby.
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I lol'd, but srsly, Occam's Razor is about postulating entities beyond necessity, not about whether something is simple or complicated.|
Originally Posted by Marcian Tobay
Occam's Razor states that whoever can speak in a more condescending and dismissive voice wins. Really, try it.
"You think it's that complicated? That someone invented time travel, went back in time, and decided to freak people out with a cell phone, all for the laughs? Really." vs. "You think it's that complicated? That someone deaf got hired for a movie, took it upon themselves to give their own blocking and orders, and managed to slip past in the movie without editors noticing? Really." |
So, in order to say this is a time traveler, we have to assume that time travel is possible, that humans can and will use it to travel into the past, that a time traveler happened to be caught on film using some cell-phone-like technology, and that there's some conspiracy to cover this all up - none of which we have any evidence for.
On the other hand, hypothesizing that she's blocking the sun, or holding a hearing aid to her ear, postulates nothing new that we can't explain.
This is really like a textbook case of where Occam's razor should be applied.
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A hoax never has a clear picture |
Originally Posted by Durakken
after all it's not a clear picture of anything...
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All too true Golden one. All too true.
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
A hoax never has a clear picture
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Beat me to it.
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Originally Posted by james_joyce
Occam's Razor called.
He hates you. |
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My first and only question about this:
What's this guy selling?
You never ever put a video like this up on YouTube
a)Unless you want to just get noticed because you've done something goofy, funny or cute OR
b)You're promoting something.
He's a filmmaker. I go with b.
I would add as someone who has studied film, it's painfully obvious that this is a shadow cast by her own hand (and the shadows are entirely consistent with the film stock and quality of 1928), and as a person I've seen old women protect their faces the same way before now against the sunlight, and who hasn't seen an old woman talking either to herself or someone she's walking with or seen off-screen in a video?
Honestly.
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You know she's just talking non-stop to her husband who's 5 steps ahead of her regardless of whether he can hear her or is actively ignoring her.
Who hasn't seen that?
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Agreed on all points. Nice to see some rationality! |
Originally Posted by Symar
Upon the close-up slow-motion views, it appears to me that there is nothing in that person's hand. They could have been itching their face, or perhaps trying to cover up from letting the camera see them (and somewhat failing).
Their fingers somewhat close in the final moments of the clip; if they were holding something that didn't need all the fingers to hold, I'd doubt they would have all their fingers in that position to start with. I don't see any personal evidence of talking, but that's not really relevant. They could have been talking to the man in front of them, or someone who was off-camera the entire time. The uploader's explanation sounds increasingly desperate to me. |
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Originally Posted by Lemur Lad
What the guy sees as an object, I see as a harsh shadow typical of "live" footage of the day.
She wasn't talking on any device, she was walking behind her husband. Her hand was up to shade her face from the bright sunlight. Her fingers were bent because she's old and there weren't many treatments for arthritis back then. As for the "looks like a man" ********? She looks old. That's all, old. Guy clearly has never heard of Occam's Razor. Or if he had he's forgotten to use it. |
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Originally Posted by Zombie Man
It is obviously clear there is *not* a black device in her hand, but that is the shade of her hand on her face.
Though it looks sunny, the heavy coats portray a chilly day. She was probably warming her ear. The index and forefinger are cupped behind the upper ear. Or she had an earache. Or she was trying to block out noise from the street. Or time travelers are fat. |
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Originally Posted by MentalMaden
Can you hear me then?
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Originally Posted by Zombie Man
You know she's just talking non-stop to her husband who's 5 steps ahead of her regardless of whether he can hear her or is actively ignoring her.
Who hasn't seen that? |
Haha, thanks for all the laughs everyone. This thread was a fun read!
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