Why?

I'm just curious. The market is full of things that are underpriced. If it costs 440k to craft an IO - why would anyone sell it for less. Even if you're a crafting maniac and can craft it cheaper because it's memorized, why would you sell it for less than what it cost to craft it?
If it's a sense of altruism, then do this with the purple sets, not the level 15 PBAoE's or level 20 accuracies.
I just don't get it.

For generic IOs its most typically someone going for fieldcrafter or just badging in general.

For other IOs I imagine its a case where someone has IOs and just wants the space in storage back. Why they were crafted in the first place, I couldn't tell you. I know I sold a few sets of IOs like 6 mos ago below crafting cost.....they were level 20 sets of some sort i slotted just to get bonus accuracy for a kin pre-SOs cause I hate when my heal missed.
I needed a respec anyhows to I removed and listed them for 6 each.....still took two weeks to sell them all and most went for like 20-50k anyhows.

This is also part of the game theory nature of selling in the marketplace. If there are a lot of other sellers in the market, you really don't know at what price they are offering. So people offer at low levels hoping that bidders see the pricing history and place their bids at the recent prices.

Then there is also the "Sell it NAO" crowd who craft something and throw it on the market at 1 (or 5 or some other relatively low number) just because they want to insta-sell. I love picking those people off!

I pretty much craft every recipe I get without paying any attention, at all, to what it's worth.

Then I sell list of 'em for 1 inf. I don't care.

It is easy enough to make money in this game that a lot of us simply don't care about piddly little amounts.

When I *buy* generics I vastly overpay- the inf doesn't matter to me and I want to give a financial shout out to whoever took the time to actually make and list the thing.


Fulmens has the concept of the market operating on the level of those take a penny/leave a penny jars. Everyone has a different threshold, but basically there's an amount you just don't care about and you're happy to throw in the community pot to help out someone else down the road. Personally, I don't really register amounts under 10,000,000 or so. I've got so much inf that there's literally no difference to me between 100k, 1,000,000 or 10,000,000. So I'll drop a million on a Damage IO I could have gotten for 300k- no biggie.

It works in the other direction too- you can list everything you get or make for some minimal amount and still earn a ton of inf. I have a guy who, for thematic reasons, lists all his drops for 1 inf. He's sitting on tens of millions of inf in his 30's.

The game doesn't require us to worry that much about inf, so a lot of people don't.

If this was real money, 440K would be the penny in the "give a penny, get a penny" tray at the deli counter.

The value of a single slot on an active and educated marketeer is worth far, far, far, far more than the 440K that item cost to craft. Selling instantly for 5K something that I spent 500K to make but then having use of the slot immediately is important. Selling tomorrow for 1M something that I spent 500K to make and leaving me unable to sell all the other items I have that are worth 10M to 1.xxB is pretty much a waste. Better to delete it than list it if all I can get is a few hundred thousand in profits.

That I list it at all is only due to my attempting to save someone else a little inf who doesn't have the luxury of billions to spend. If it doesn't sell before I need that slot, I'm just going to delete it anyway.

RagMAnX

I have recently discovered a new sort of fun. I have 3 or 4 marketeers at this time. 3 are specialized and one just does some weird speculation. He's losing money atm, but w/e.

Anyways... moving on...

When I play alts that aren't marketeers, they generate salvage and recipes. I used to take the time to go through the list, value each recipe as a crafted IO, decide if I could give up the slot for the time needed to sell it - gather the salvage for it - craft it. Run to the vendor and sell everything that wasn't "worthy" of selling and go back to the market trying to calculate what I should be listing the IO for.

Then I realized that I just don't care.

I get to the end of a play session - I hit the nearest crafting table - then I hit the market. Everything and I mean EVERYTHING gets listed for 1 inf. IOs, recipes, salvage... ALL of it!

Omg! I sold that IO for 50k when I could have possibly sold it for 2 mil!

So what! Who cares?!

Not me!

So grats everyone who finds my "gems" hidden all over the market.

What I find more amazing is the ones that sit there for weeks. Recipes and IOs. Kind of puts in perspective how much people want that IO when I'm giving them away and still no one wants them!



Another reason:

I am Joe Average Player. I go and look at my recipes and my salvage and I see that 3 of my drops for the night are worth selling. I get the last 2 pieces of salvage I need for them and I go to the crafting table.

I make my 3 IOs and I go back to the market. Each one was selling for about 10 mil. However... oddly enough this one now shows the last 5 as selling for 100k.

Woops! I crafted a recipe I had in inventory that was missing the exact piece of salvage the my other "valuable" recipe needed. DOH!

Options: List that IO for the 100k that everyone else is or delete it assuring myself 0 inf for my mistake.

A lot of people will opt for the 100k

Also to OP, keep in mind that there are a TON of people pursuing the crafting accolades. Thanks a lot of supply for common IOs and not a ton of demand, particularly for the less popular types (Intangibility anyone?) and levels (level 20-25 in particular is a spot where the improvement over 15s doesn't justify upgrading and SOs are right around the corner).

I get the generics, but the ones I don't get are why so many of the recipes that require rare salvage sell for less than 1 or 2 million. Take the Airburst Dam/Rech. It requires a Synthetic Intelligence unit at the high level and Impervium at the mid level. Both of those go for between 1.5m and 3m. The crafted sell pretty reliably below 1m at levels between 37 and 49. Why the hell does anyone bother? Vendor or delete the recipe and other salvage and sell the Impervium or Synthetic and get double the money vastly faster. The level 49 specifically has a "last 5 sold" from 1.0m to 1.5m back 1 month. As I check, Synthetic Intelligence shows 5 listed a 2m each all from today.

So who is crafting these things and posting them at such a loss? No badges for these ones.

And there are plenty of other examples in the sleep and fear sets. some of the travels, etc. There are a huge number of crafted recipes right now that are listed for less than half the value of the salvage, with a reliable history of sales at below salvage cost.

I'm doing field crafter too. Even if I list the IOs way cheap, I figure that it will help the ones that need it most. Sort of a public service.

As a side point, I've seen synthetic intelligences go down to 1 million or less. So people are possibly losing LESS money selling these things. Doesn't change the core point.

My theory: People crafted it first and looked at prices later.