A way to offset Fitness (for thematic RP characters)

Okay, with Issue 19, the Fitness pool is going to be inherent. And this is, understandably, upsetting some people who want their characters to be... shall we say, down-to-earth. Not everybody wants to leap over speeding bullets in a locomotive, after all.

So I have a solution, one that will satisfy everybody (except people wanting free slots, but you can't please all of the people all of the time.)

Put a vendor in Nova Praetoria, Atlas Park, and Mercy. These people would have four Enhancements, all free. -Health, -Stamina, -Swift, and -Hurdle. These Enhancements would have one ability: they would exactly offset the gains that the appropriate Fitness power would give. Any -Fitness Enhancement would, therefore, make the character that slots them behave as if they didn't have it at all. Even better, if it were decided that they wanted that Fitness, they'd just have to overwrite the -Fitness Enhancement with whatever they wanted.

Each -Fitness would only go into that exact power, and it would be the only Enhancement that could be slotted there. Simple, elegant, and easy.

Even without Fitness your character still performs feats that no real human could ever perform. I consider the damage done.

/unsigned to this idea.

Honestly, if any of the changes affect your immersion in any way, you have bigger issues.

Natural heroes can already survive being hit in the face with guns and rockets - I don't think a few extra feet on their jumps really matters that much

The only way I'd even consider giving away inherent fitness (which is pretty much what you're doing here) is if I could trade it for another pool to be inherent (like inherent Leadership or Inherent teleporation).

There's no real reason for this. You might as well ask for an option to *stop* your base regen and recovery too as being 'natural', there's no way you'd recover from a bullet wound or a fire blast to the face by waiting around for a few minutes.

Hey, I want all four fitness powers forever and ever amen. This was just my idea about how to satisfy those people who, for roleplay reasons, don't want them. And only those people... as this would be, by necessity, 100% opt-in (you actually have to drop an Enhancement into a slot to do it). People who want Fitness powers: win. People who don't: win. People who want extra slots... well, two out of three ain't bad.

**IF** the Fitness Pool had an aura you couldn't turn off, I'd be on their side.

But as long as there's Walk, I have no sympathy for the RPers who just stand around and chat.

And for the RPers who can solo Elite Bosses with their 'regular' and 'natural' powers, any arguments that 'Fitness' is too 'super' is ridiculous, ludicrous, and laughable.

You see what you made me do there? A triple redundancy? Are you happy now? Are. You. HAPPY?!!!

From an RP stand-point, an "unfit" character would simply not slot or enhance their fitness inherent while a "fit" character would. The difference between this and a fitnessless character will be negligible.

Disregarding whether or not it's a good idea, is this even necessary? The way it was described, it sounded like we can choose not to have the fitness powers if we don't want them.

This is like looking for a freckle on the Mona Lisa. Theres already alot of immersion breaking for natural characters in the game. Maybe alot you've already reasoned around, and heres one more for you... too much hassle for too little gain.

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Originally Posted by VoodooGirl [*]Watching out for the Spinning Disco Portal of D00M!*

wow.. for people who cry "we want options" you all sure rag on people that propose such.

My only issue for inherent Fitness is Swift. There are times when the slow "trot" is a good effect. If I wanted to go faster I'd turn on Sprint or the travel power. But my main thing against the active Swift Power is for my melee characters trying to line up the mobs for what few limited AOE attacks it may have, one tap of a sideways movement key works fine without Swift but many times with it the character moves too far. I'm not going to spend a lot of time lining things up, but if I can do it with 1 or 2 key taps I will. Swift ruins that for me.

So yeah, for Swift I'd like that enhancement for some of my characters, but for the other Fitness powers I wouldn't use their negative enhancements. (Hurdle is so much fun!)

It's a decent suggestion. I'd go for it. Maybe the Devs have an alternative solution planned already?

Just to further play the devils advocate. Fitness becoming inherent effectively means that there is no such thing as fitness anymore.

The way I see it, for those of you that absolutely can't get over the horrible atrocity that your character can jump a foot higher or run 1mph faster, the lore of the game is being ret-conned in one tiny aspect. EVERYONE in the world now naturally runs that fast and jumps that high as if it were so from day one. ICly you would not RP this change, as there is ICly no guy living in a van down by the river giving everyone shots of steroids to buff you.

Let me repeat, ICly, this change does not exist plain and simple.

There's a huge difference between "We want options" and "We want things that a massive majority of people will never use".

Just don't slot the powers?

Really? When I see this request, I have to ask, do you even read the genre inwhich you play?

Captain America is at the peak human (not superhuman) in the areas of physical fitness, and he's jumping onto Jets.

From an RP stance, one could just as easily quit making super lazy, over weight, wouldn't have the energy to actually get to level 50, but some how do?

Really, it's not bad. Rp them running out of breath, like a lot of RPers already do, yet take fitness, because they don't want to run out of END during a mission?