Screw the current purple prices......


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Sure, if you don't mind taking two months to get ONE.
Well that was the point of this system.

This Merit "Bigger Grind Than World of ......." system is driving the prices through the roof on purples. It wouldn't surprise me at all if the devs stealth Nerfed purple drops on the side just to make it more dramatic.


 

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Q_Candy: so by adding more ways to get purples they raised the prices? Nothing to do with people giving up their 50's for a month to play praetorians, who reached 50 and now want purples?

I tell people WHY I'm putting them on ignore, and in this case it's because you make no sense.
Shame he has empirical evidence on his side.

Income has changed little. Prices on one type of item have decreased significantly. The money saved on those items is being spent in other places: mainly on purples. "Adding more ways to get purples raised their prices"?

Yes, yes it has.

Luck of the Gambler = 2 Alignment Merits
Luck of the Gambler = ~120M Inf
1 Alignment Merit = ~60M Inf -10% fee = 54M Inf

Purple Recipe = 20 Alignment Merits
Most Expensive Purple Recipe = ~400M Inf
1 Alignment Merit = 20M Inf

Thus, If you had 20 Alignment Merits you could get 1 Purple recipe OR
10 Luck of the Gamblers, sell them on the market for 110M Inf each for 1.1B Inf. That's 990M Inf after fees. Then you could buy 2 of the fancy expensive Purples you want and pocket the extra money.
Choice A: 1 Purple Recipe
Choice B: 2 Purple Recipes + Millions of Inf


 

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Originally Posted by Q_Candy View Post
Well that was the point of this system.

This Merit "Bigger Grind Than World of ......." system is driving the prices through the roof on purples. It wouldn't surprise me at all if the devs stealth Nerfed purple drops on the side just to make it more dramatic.
No, players treating the Alignment merit system as a grind to be sped through as fast and efficiently as possible is driving prices through the roof. Those of us who don't treat it as such are still generating purples. Too bad I can't sell them because nobody anywhere has ever sold a purple, ever.


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I'm more willing to believe that the influx of new characters who just leveled to 50 is having an effect; it means a lot of people stopped generating purples and now want to consume them. That seems like it would raise prices.


 

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Chriffer: I suspect we'll see a long-term shift in prices due to the purple ratio, but I don't think it's going to be as large as you're suggesting (If I read it right). L50 LoTGs, crafted, are 150 million RIGHT THIS SECOND, which isn't that different from they were pre-merge. L25's haven't changed much either. Numina's, kind of crashed but they were crashy before Going Rogue too.

That seems to me to indicate lots of demand even on stuff you can generate pretty quick with the current system.

Anyone have any data for how badly purples spike after, say, a 2XP weekend? Because we are getting the same sort of influx of new 50's now that we do then. (Very roughly.)


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Shame he has empirical evidence on his side.
Empirical evidence of A-merits raising the purple prices or empirical evidence of purple prices just going higher?

As many others, I'm completely blaming this on people not playing 50s (me included), but new Praetorians instead.


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Shame he has empirical evidence on his side.
Shame correlation doesn't equal causation.


 

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Shame correlation doesn't equal causation.
What?! You mean eating ice cream doesn't make you more likely to drown?


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Two things: ultra rare does not mean expensive, ultra rare AND desirable = expensive.

Also compare PvP IOs, I can burn 20 A-merits on a purple, or 30 on a 3BN PvP IO. Until either the PvP IO drops or the purple rises, not worth purchasing purples with A-merits.


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Shame he has empirical evidence on his side.
That's not evidence that increased ability to get purples has raised the price for them. It is evidence that buying things other than purples with your A-Merits is a better idea than buying purples with them. No more, no less.

It has no evidence one way or another regarding:
1. More people playing total right now
2. Fewer people (as a ratio not total) playing 50s right now due to Praetoria
3. More new 50s (due to #s 1 and 2)

All three of those will cause the price of the most desirable objects to increase.


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Two things: ultra rare does not mean expensive, ultra rare AND desirable = expensive.

Also compare PvP IOs, I can burn 20 A-merits on a purple, or 30 on a 3BN PvP IO. Until either the PvP IO drops or the purple rises, not worth purchasing purples with A-merits.
What ultra rare isnt desirable?

Every purple except the damage and chance fors (not including sleep/confuse) is 250-500mil each last 5 sold, atm. That makes A-Merits look very tempting to alot of people. Even more when you can pick what you want and not have luck/bad luck drops.

Me, im still killing things for mine. Seems alot faster than tips, and less expensive than WW.


 

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Every purple except the damage and chance fors (not including sleep/confuse) is 250-500mil each last 5 sold, atm. That makes A-Merits look very tempting to alot of people.
Tempting to buy purples with A-Merits? For people really bad at math, maybe.


 

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What ultra rare isnt desirable?

Every purple except the damage and chance fors (not including sleep/confuse) is 250-500mil each last 5 sold, atm. That makes A-Merits look very tempting to alot of people. Even more when you can pick what you want and not have luck/bad luck drops.

Me, im still killing things for mine. Seems alot faster than tips, and less expensive than WW.
Fortunate's Hypnosis is not particularly desirable. Neither is the confuse set.

If you have the right build, sure. But high demand? Far from it. Scirroco's Dervish sells for more most of the time.


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What ultra rare isnt desirable?

Every purple except the damage and chance fors (not including sleep/confuse) is 250-500mil each last 5 sold, atm. That makes A-Merits look very tempting to alot of people. Even more when you can pick what you want and not have luck/bad luck drops.

Me, im still killing things for mine. Seems alot faster than tips, and less expensive than WW.
Yeah, but when I can spend 20 A-merits and get over 1BN easily, possibly over 2BN by trading them for specific recipes, then buy 4+ purples, I'm not going to spend A-merits on purples.


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Im not either. Just saying that some people that really dont have alot of inf may go that route rather than trying to save up 3bill for 1 set of purples. x5 sets if they want it to equal around, say, 15bil at the current buy it now prices.


 

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...... that is all.
You could always be like me and sell superdyne to kids. Its highly profitable!


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You could always be like me and sell superdyne to kids. Its highly profitable!
Excelsior has a higher mark-up.


 

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so what I'm getting here is that I should sell those full sets of Apocalypse & Gravitic Anchor I found stored in an old disused base the other day?


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