What's the big deal with Damage Proc's ?

I have a lot of character built and some of them use different procs of different types. One thing I have never really understood is when I see damage procs in builds that already do damage and people talk about it like its a big deal.

Maybe I am missing something. I have placed damage procs in toggles and i have watched that they rarely go off. Do they have a better chance of firing in a click power? The chances of a lot of the procs I see going off is very small. Wouldnt it be better to just slot more accruacy or recharge or end redux??

Again im not a novice with IO's and sets just dont understand all the damage proc love in attacks

Procs in a toggle only have a chance to fire every 10 seconds and do so whether or not there is an enemy in range or not, thus most chances are wasted.

Procs in an attack have a chance every time you fire the attack, and of course, you only do that when you have a target.

While everything Don said was true, a lot of people with farming characters (like a Fire/Kin Controller or an Elec/Fire Brute) like to put a ton of damage procs into their damage toggles. They increase the potential damage above the maximum that can be reached through simply slotting damage enhancements, and they tend to be slotted for bonus accuracy and have other ways to compensate for the increased endurance drain (Transference and Consume, for example).

I'm not saying they're right or wrong to slot as such, but it's a pretty popular way to slot up a farm build and when it works, it works well.

Additionally, they allow you more flexible damage output types; if you're playing a Katana/SR Scrapper like mine and all your attacks do lethal damage, and you're fighting... well, anything that's not a Carnie once you've hit level 50, you welcome the occassional spike of Dark damage that comes from your Hecatomb proc.

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I agree most attacks probably don't need regular Damage Procs. Procs provide random "critical" damage in a way. That's how I look at it.

You don't need that much +acc or +end once you have several sets. If you don't plan on using sets, then I can see how +end and +recharge are better.


Procs works better in pets/ATs that deal less base damage. Mastermind Pets are good for damage proc 'cause if you put in the minions, that's all 3 of them having the chance to proc. I can see procs being better on Defender/Mastermind due to their lower base damage.

I have procs in my defenders Neutrino Blast. It is a very fast recharging, low damage power and that is the kind of thing that seems ideal for procs to me. It provides lots of chances to have the proc go off and slotting up recharge much is overkill on a little pew-pew power like that.

I would not put damage procs in something like Incinerate because I would rather spend those slots on damage, recharge, acc & endurance so I probably wouldn't have any slot space after pumping all those up.

I agree with Glow. They work well on toggles but I particularly enjoy them on those early attacks that you'd always be throwing out anyway, either as filler or to keep yourself occupied until a better power cools down. I love having 2 damage procs in Ice Bolt.

I have either a -recharge proc(i think) in my willpower scrappers one toggle that does -tohit. It procs constantly.

I had a fun time running a Brute with Perfect Zinger: Chance For Psi Damage in all of his main attack powers. heh.

I don't recall where the point was...but after so much damage enhancement in an ability (and it was lower than 95%...I want to say 85-88% or more)...the damage proc actually increased your damage about more than adding more +DMG (due to DR)...if I was reading the numbers in mids right.

That said...why do people like procs? You just got damage capped by that all to common Kin! That proc just went off! You just did damage over the damage cap!

Airhammer, there are proc/power combinations that make an already good power even much more better. My favorite example is Shriek from Sonic attack (base 3 secs recharge) powered up with an apocalypse dmg proc. Fast recharging, part of a attack chain, resist debuffing, yeah= full win. Every third attack (and in my experience more often) you get that tasty extra-damage. Which is even more enhanced by the - resist component of the sonic attack set. (Mid numbers defenders: Enhanced to cap from 30 base to 60, with apoproc approximatly 95 in average...)

Yeah, I like purple procs very much. Normal procs- it depends. But purple procs are so good, it´s a nonbrainer if your build and your inf can handle it. (sometimes a proc just doesn´t fit in a power, cause you need other bonuses much more).

Putting the chance for smashing damage epic hold proc in Dominate was probably the best thing I ever did for Peacemoon.

I am now working out my new build, which will easily contain an Apoclapyse chance for damage in mesmerize.

Can't wait. :-)

I totally forgot about procs in my lastest and easily favorite toon now. I feel so dumb... XD But one question, if the power it's self misses, does the proc still have a chance to hit?