Weird "hero merit" paranoia
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BunnyAnomaly,
Posted on: 2010-08-27 21:08 in The Market and Inventions
Aaaand just got a LoTG 7.5% off a Hero Merit.
I should clearly start threads like this more often.
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Only 2 rolls, but 10% of the results have been LotGs!
These also from the 35-39 range. With the intro of A-Merits (since you can really buy on demand easy), the fact that I have collected a handful each of the cool-rare <31 recipes (Cloud Senses, Theft +end, Shield Breaker procs, et al), and the case that I have my lifetime needs of End/Rech/Slow 'C's, I've quit rolling in the 30-34 range.
Been rolling 40-45. One Miracle and a LotG so far, I think. A few really bad sets, but overall I've come out ahead.
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There is only one Rare Recipe database now, and it's weighted for the 'good stuff' and it's the roll table for all random rolls: Tickets, Merits, Alignment Merits, and drops.
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50 rolls here mainly 35-39 with some 30-34, no miracles, numinas, LotGs, kinetic combat triples, stealths, basilisks quads several oblits both proc and quad.
Basically rolls have been so poor I'd have been loads better simply purchasing stuff.
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So far on Hero/Villian Merits:
LotG + Recharge (33)
Mako Tri (33)
Scrocco Tri (33)
Touch of the Nictis Tri (37)
Obliteration Proc x2 (37)
Devastation Tri (37)
Positron Tri (35)
Impervium Resist (35)
Not bad, the lvl 33 LotG sold for 180 million crafted, TotN Tri sold for 40 million.
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Prickly Heat 50 Dominator Plant/Fire
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I've rolled only two or three times so far (I had planned on saving up for a PvP recipe, then did the math and realized that was stupid), but I've got 1 LotG and 1 Miracle so far, plus a few other nice recipes (like the Kinetic Combat triple and the Aegis +Psionic Resist).
Only mentally tracking what I've received: no Big 3, 1 KinCom triple, 1 BZ+kb, 1 Oblit proc, lots of melees of course. All from the 35-39 range. I don't recall anything else.
So are folks happy with how this is working out? I'm pretty pleased.
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Just wandered in and did a roll on my troller after reading some of this thread. The 5 were a Numina ++, Oblit Proc, Impervium Armor: Resistance, Aegis triple, and something cruddy. By far the best roll I've gotten.|
Originally Posted by Kitteh
Only mentally tracking what I've received: no Big 3, 1 KinCom triple, 1 BZ+kb, 1 Oblit proc, lots of melees of course. All from the 35-39 range. I don't recall anything else.
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I've hit a couple of Numina's uniques now. No LotG or Miracle, but that's okay.
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| So are folks happy with how this is working out? I'm pretty pleased. |
I love it on my characters in their 30s. I figure my 50s will just save merits and buy specific things at specific levels for whoever needs 'em, unless the average price of max level recipes gets back up a little higher. All of which is subject to change as supply/prices stabilize.
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Total count for 14 rolls, 35-39 range:
9 LoTG +rech (!) (in three cases I got two in the same roll)
2 Numina +regen/recovery
1 Miracle +recovery
4 Oblit quads
2 Kinetic Combat I think triples
Bunch of worthless ****
So I am happy. I think I'm getting your LoTGs Fulmens.
edit: should be 14 rolls not 11
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Holy crap Emberly. Your luck is insane. have you thought of entering the lottery recently?
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Originally Posted by Emberly
Total count for 14 rolls, 35-39 range:
9 LoTG +rech (!) (in three cases I got two in the same roll) 2 Numina +regen/recovery 1 Miracle +recovery 4 Oblit quads 2 Kinetic Combat I think triples Bunch of worthless **** So I am happy. I think I'm getting your LoTGs Fulmens. edit: should be 14 rolls not 11 |
When you roll HVMs do you get them at the level you have the slider at or does that just affect the level range you're rolling at?
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It's just like rolling Reward Merits.|
Originally Posted by Santorican
When you roll HVMs do you get them at the level you have the slider at or does that just affect the level range you're rolling at?
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It just selects the range for which recipes will be available.
You get one at your Level or Max level of the recipe (if you are above it).
The only way to get a specific level (below you) is just like Reward Merits, pick a specific recipe at that level.
Well, there we go. It's him.
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Haha well three rolls tonight and not one good recipe in the bunch |
Originally Posted by Chaos Creator
Holy crap Emberly. Your luck is insane. have you thought of entering the lottery recently?
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Regressing towards the mean, I guess! Sure was nice to slot out my SR brute and still stash four in the base though!edit: it's amazing how little it irritates me to have fifteen random recipes all be crap when it's only three rolls, when back in the old merit days if I rolled five in a row that were crap I got ticked enough to stop rolling for the night
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Well that is Lame!!!
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Originally Posted by Caulderone
It's just like rolling Reward Merits.
It just selects the range for which recipes will be available. You get one at your Level or Max level of the recipe (if you are above it). The only way to get a specific level (below you) is just like Reward Merits, pick a specific recipe at that level. |
Virtue: @Santorican
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Yup. Lame as hell. I wish the devs would just admit that the merit systems completely screwed up the low level market and that it needs to be fixed. It's not like the solution is far away - just allow random rolling at the level specified by the slider, and poof, low/mid-level supply! I know I'd be all over that in an instant. As it stands I'm not supplying the market at all - anything I earn on my 50s goes toward spec-buying exactly what I need, because I want level 30 recipes and have no use at all for level 50s. And anything I earn on the way up gets random rolled at level 30 and then stored away since I have no prospect of any ongoing supply. GIve me the ability to random roll at 30 with my 50s and I'd be doing that all over the place and selling what I don't need.
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This is what it means to be a tank!
Lock a character at 30 and roll tips.
All the cool kids are doing it. You can join Midlevel Crisis. We've got a clubhouse.
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Good idea, I just wish there was a way to do that with my dark/shield, he can keep all of his bonuses to 27
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I am level locking one at 20 for yummy steal procs and one at 30 for everything else. I need some LoTG and such at lower levels for exemping builds.
So far I've rolled once with HVM's:
Miracle: +Recovery
Touch of the Nictus: Chance for Negative Energy Damage
Siphon Insight: Chance for a +ToHit
Scirocco's Dervish: Dam/Acc/End
Scirocco's Dervish: Chance for Lethal Damage
Crafted, the two Scirocco's were going for 10-14 million, the Miracle was going for a little more. 
The way my luck runs, I'm sure the next one (or two) will be mostly crappy, but I'm happy with this one!
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30 level 50's: 12 scrappers, 7 other random melee types, 11 blaster/blapper/support squishies, two accounts, and a TON of altitis since 4/28/04
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I've rolled once.|
Originally Posted by Eldorado
Crafted, the two Scirocco's were going for 10-14 million, the Miracle was going for a little more.
The way my luck runs, I'm sure the next one (or two) will be mostly crappy, but I'm happy with this one! |
I got :
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08-22-2010 22:08:46 You received Sovereign Right: Aura 10% Resistance (All but Psionic) buff for Pets (Recipe). 08-22-2010 22:08:46 You received Gift of the Ancients: Defense (Recipe). 08-22-2010 22:08:46 You received Impervium Armor: +Psionic Resist (Recipe). 08-22-2010 22:08:46 You received Sovereign Right: Aura 10% Resistance (All but Psionic) buff for Pets (Recipe). 08-22-2010 22:08:46 You received Decimation: Acc/Dam/Rech (Recipe). |
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though I do try to keep one alt locked at 32 (not 30 as Fulmens suggests as I want to be able to roll in the 35 - 39 range), I would really like to see this implemented. I like to see my characters advance, so I can tolerate them being locked only so long before I give in and let them move ahead. |
Originally Posted by Muon_Neutrino
Yup. Lame as hell. I wish the devs would just admit that the merit systems completely screwed up the low level market and that it needs to be fixed. It's not like the solution is far away - just allow random rolling at the level specified by the slider, and poof, low/mid-level supply! I know I'd be all over that in an instant. As it stands I'm not supplying the market at all - anything I earn on my 50s goes toward spec-buying exactly what I need, because I want level 30 recipes and have no use at all for level 50s. And anything I earn on the way up gets random rolled at level 30 and then stored away since I have no prospect of any ongoing supply. GIve me the ability to random roll at 30 with my 50s and I'd be doing that all over the place and selling what I don't need.
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yes, that's my choice but it does cost the market some supply as I mostly end up doing what Muon is. instead of random rolling all the way up to 50 (and a lot more at 50), I save up merits until around 30 - 32 and random roll what I can. from them on, no more random rolls. merits are used to buy specific recipes, at specific levels, for my use.
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I locked one at 30, one at 32 and two at 35. Though the 32 has gotten such trash I am considering bumping him to 35 or never rolling with him again anyway.
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Originally Posted by Fulmens
Lock a character at 30 and roll tips.
All the cool kids are doing it. You can join Midlevel Crisis. We've got a clubhouse. |
total kick to the gut
This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.
I've used hero merits to roll about 35 recipes, mostly in the 35-39 range (5 or 10 in 30-34) and have gotten zero of the "Big three"- no LoTG, no Miracle unique, no Numina's unique. I've gotten lots of other shiny items (obliterations, stealths, Zephyr KB's) but none of those.
Have other people received "big three" items from HAM/VAM rolls? Random number is random, but I thought I'd check.
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