No Stone mastery? *Is a sad panda* 
That said, the rest of these look friggin' awesome. I could definitely see the fire APP being *extremely* popular for AoE output, and hey, RotP if you draw too much aggro with all of those aoes! Energy also has a fair chunk of AoE, and ET? Wow. 
And then ice mastery gets sleet and ice storm! I know what I'm using my ice/ice's freespec on. 
Psionic is still saddled with lolWoC, but even that might be vaguely useful if it's affected by domination.
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My Earth/Fire Domi is quite happy with this. Fiery Embrace just got even more awesome!
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Originally Posted by Muon_Neutrino
No Stone mastery? *Is a sad panda*
That said, the rest of these look friggin' awesome. I could definitely see the fire APP being *extremely* popular for AoE output, and hey, RotP if you draw too much aggro with all of those aoes! Energy also has a fair chunk of AoE, and ET? Wow. And then ice mastery gets sleet and ice storm! I know what I'm using my ice/ice's freespec on. Psionic is still saddled with lolWoC, but even that might be vaguely useful if it's affected by domination. |
An Elec/Stone/Ice Dominator could be a lot of fun, methinks.
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Anyone know the numbers for Sleet yet? Especially for -def/-res debuffs and recharge.
A */Fire/Fire Dom looks like it could pretty much approximate a real Fire blaster, just with survivability. I now have added motivation to level up my Earth/Fire.
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Same here!
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Originally Posted by Carnifax_NA
My Earth/Fire Domi is quite happy with this.
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-30 Def/Res with a 60 second recharge. Too good ATM (straight port from Cold Domination).
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Originally Posted by Deacon_NA
Anyone know the numbers for Sleet yet? Especially for -def/-res debuffs and recharge.
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Soleau: Ice / Icy / Ice / Core: Ice / Fire / Pyre / Wind / Eclipse / Flare / Corona
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exactly! RoF and Fireball, wow. im pleasantly surprised. |
Originally Posted by Gearsinger
Y'know, I had hoped and dreamed for Rain of Fire and Fireball on my Fire/Fire dom, but I never thought they'd actually give it to me. Glee.
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hhmmm to stay with soul mastery or to play with new powers...oh the torment
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Thermonuk fire/rad corr
Forrest Phyre spines/fire scrap
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Actually, there's some discussion of that in the Scrapper, Tanker and Brute forums. Sounds like Fiery Embrace is changing to a flat +100% damage for 20 seconds, and I'd expect it would carry over to Doms.|
Originally Posted by Carnifax_NA
My Earth/Fire Domi is quite happy with this. Fiery Embrace just got even more awesome!
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Fiery Embrace is now even more awesome than that... it works with Earth Control powers other than Pots and VG.
Since I am not sure it was obvious from Rivers original post I just though I would point out that you don't have to take your dom heroside to get access to the APP's - after GR goes live all redside characters will get access to the appropriate APP's as soon as they hit 41, the same way heroes do now. Redside you will have the option of sticking with the APP pool or going the old route of running a patrol arc to get access to the patron pools. Obviously, if you already have a patron pool selected you will have to respec to switch to an APP.
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Fiery embrace from the fiery aura set was changed to add bonus fire damage to all attacks in the melee AT's primary (or secondary for tanks), it is NOT a +dam power anymore - it literally adds a second 'tick' of fire damage to all attacks, a fairly large one. The dom fiery embrace, however, was left alone since it worked fine in fire assault and Castle felt it would be overpowered if it added bonus fire damage to all the controls in a dom primary.
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Originally Posted by AnElfCalledMack
Actually, there's some discussion of that in the Scrapper, Tanker and Brute forums. Sounds like Fiery Embrace is changing to a flat +100% damage for 20 seconds, and I'd expect it would carry over to Doms.
Fiery Embrace is now even more awesome than that... it works with Earth Control powers other than Pots and VG. |
Globals: @Midnight Mystique/@Magik13
Wow, those are some IMPRESSIVE powerlists. Sleet for doms? Yes plz.
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Most of the Stone Mastery powers were used in Stony Assault. As APP's for villain AT's were late in the development, it was left out rather than redesigned(which would have been 3-4 brand new powers to make!).
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Originally Posted by Muon_Neutrino
No Stone mastery? *Is a sad panda*
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What are the numbers like on Link Minds? I'm hoping psionic will have something to make it a worthwhile pick, I'd love to use an epic set that's actually thematic but it's not looking too promising. Especially for permadoms.
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Originally Posted by Candlestick
Wow, those are some IMPRESSIVE powerlists. Sleet for doms? Yes plz.
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Can you imagine having this type of AoE potential for the last 4 yrs?
I'm pumped about these sets.
Bye, bye, PPPs.
Please buff Ice Control.
My fire/fire dom is soooo getting the /fire APP.
Painful decisions to make during the respec but RoF, Fire Shield, Fireball and Melt Armor are worth it.
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Heroes-Justice: Neutronium Man (50 Grav/FF), Silver Spider (50 MA/SR),Masked Arrow (50 Arch/Dev)
Villains: Sundragon (50 FC/FA): Justice, Mech Lord V (50 Bots/FF): Protector, Erl King (50 SS/Inv): Justice
pfft,
Psy mastery,
Alternate MOB and DOMINATION for perma mez prot w/o the hassles of perma-dom.
Any numbers on Link Mind?
And Sleet is lookin real sexy for my gravity dom!
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Originally Posted by Shadow Ravenwolf
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Originally Posted by Dispari
Yeah, I like Blasters too.
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ARE.... YOU.... KIDDING ME!?
My plant/fire/Mu perma dom is already on par damage wise with most blasters I've seen and has better control than any controller I've met. And now you're going to give me rain of fire, fire ball, and melt armor??
I.... I.... Don't know what to say.... Thank you? *sobs* Thank you so much.
What role do blasters fill now? Other than giving the emps something to do.
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Doms = more perfect with this update. No more villain Dominators for me!
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This is pretty much what I think we were all expecting when the original PPP's came out. Then ouch we got..well we all know what we got. Castle revamped them and did the best he could to improve upon the PPP's. But let's face it you can't make caviar out of....*insert expletive*. |
Originally Posted by DarkCurrent
These APPs will single-handedly do more to improve doms than all the other changes they've received since CoV launch.
Can you imagine having this type of AoE potential for the last 4 yrs? I'm pumped about these sets. Bye, bye, PPPs. |
I really wanted to have some time to test these pools on various doms I have. But the copy tool has been down..and due to a recent promotion (yay me!) don't have the time. Damn work.
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My level 50 Dominators:
Madame Mindbender 50 Mind/Energy
Fly Agaric 50 Plant/Thorn
Nate Nitro 50 Fire/Psi
A word of clarification: from what I've read, it seems both heroes and villains can grab APPs. Even PPPs only require you having done a patron arc (so a hero could go villainside, do a patron arc, then revert to hero and freely choose between either an APP or a PPP).
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Originally Posted by Muon_Neutrino
No Stone mastery? *Is a sad panda*
That said, the rest of these look friggin' awesome. I could definitely see the fire APP being *extremely* popular for AoE output, and hey, RotP if you draw too much aggro with all of those aoes! Energy also has a fair chunk of AoE, and ET? Wow. |
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Originally Posted by Muon_Neutrino
And then ice mastery gets sleet and ice storm! I know what I'm using my ice/ice's freespec on.
Psionic is still saddled with lolWoC, but even that might be vaguely useful if it's affected by domination. |
My level 50 Dominators:
Madame Mindbender 50 Mind/Energy
Fly Agaric 50 Plant/Thorn
Nate Nitro 50 Fire/Psi
Oh, I'm sure sleet won't stay a clone of the existing version for long, but even if they double the recharge and halve the debuff it'll still kick ***. I'm looking forward to being able to ice slick-sleet-ice storm-frost breath things, with an ice sword circle chaser if needed.
Thinking a bit more about the fire APP, I realized I'd forgotten about fiery embrace. It's slightly scary that the one APP for which there exists a buff specifically suited to its damage type gets the most AoE damage in all the APPs. I'm not sure exactly what the result of an (oh, say) earth/fire/fire doing something like stalagmites-stone cages-fiery embrace-rain of fire-fireball-fire breath/combustion, but I'm thinking it'd be something like this.
@MuonNeutrino
Student, Gamer, Altaholic, and future Astronomer.
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to be fair...what would they include besides Rock Armor and Earth's Embrace?
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Originally Posted by Muon_Neutrino
No Stone mastery? *Is a sad panda*
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Since the NDA is now lifted. For those that are curious, this is the current state of the Dominator Hero APP's. Link minds is a slightly weaker clone of "Mind Link". The rest of the powers pretty much have controller values. From my very limited testing of both Fire Mastery and Ice Mastery, I was pretty impressed by the utility and survivability they granted. Heroic Dom's are getting access to some substantial buff/debuff tools it this goes live as is.
Dominator APPs:
Fire Mastery:
Rain of Fire
Fire Ball
Fire Shield
Rise of the Phoenix
Melt Armor
Ice Mastery:
Sleet
Hibernate
Frozen Armor
Hoarfrost
Ice Storm
Primal Forces Mastery:
Energy Transfer
Conserve Power
Temp Invulnerability
Energy Torrent
Explosive Blast
Psionic Mastery:
Link Minds
Indomitable Will
Mind Over Body
World of Confusion
Psionic Tornado
My level 50 Dominators:
Madame Mindbender 50 Mind/Energy
Fly Agaric 50 Plant/Thorn
Nate Nitro 50 Fire/Psi