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Hero Dominator APP Power List

Aett_Thorn

By Aett_Thorn,
Posted on: 2010-08-10 22:58 in Dominators

 

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Originally Posted by Gearsinger View Post
Y'know, I had hoped and dreamed for Rain of Fire and Fireball on my Fire/Fire dom, but I never thought they'd actually give it to me. Glee.
I hear ya. My plant/fire dom is shelved until I can swap fish mastery for fire mastery.

 

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Updated Paragon Wiki page by Zombie Man. Contains the complete list of APP/PPP proliferation:

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Originally Posted by Zombie Man
I compiled this page: http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/APP_Proliferation to list all the APP powers in one look-see.

Would be great if anyone would check it for errors and go ahead and correct it if they see any.
Since most of this has been a straight port from the controller versions, numbers should be dead on so far. Doesn't mean there wont be changes later before or after launch.

My level 50 Dominators:
Madame Mindbender 50 Mind/Energy
Fly Agaric 50 Plant/Thorn
Nate Nitro 50 Fire/Psi

 

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Originally Posted by gSOLO View Post
-30 Def/Res with a 60 second recharge. Too good ATM (straight port from Cold Domination).
i peed a little

 

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Originally Posted by Mr_Heat_Stroke View Post
Doms = more perfect with this update. No more villain Dominators for me!
To Clarify...

You don't have to be a hero just to get APPs, all ATs will have APPs upon reaching 41 That is Villain and Hero, Vigs and Rogues, however, in order to get PPPs you have to complete a PPP arc.

So if you wanted your Dom to stay a villain, once they hit 41 and go to the Arbiter, you will be able to choose from an Epic Power Pool

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Originally Posted by Carnifax_NA View Post
My Earth/Fire Domi is quite happy with this. Fiery Embrace just got even more awesome!
sorry but.. i read that dominators were keeping the old version of FE ^^'

 

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Originally Posted by Nny_the_mad View Post
sorry but.. i read that dominators were keeping the old version of FE ^^'
I think his point was that now Burn is a decent AoE attack, instead of a fear patch, /Fire doms have even more good Fire attacks to boost. Add in Earth/'s two powers with fire damage, and that's a lot of attacks at double damage.

 

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Originally Posted by Nny_the_mad View Post
sorry but.. i read that dominators were keeping the old version of FE ^^'
They are. But with Fireball and Rain of Fire available in the APP they've more they can do with it.

 

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Originally Posted by RiverOcean View Post
Energy Transfer with a doms Melee modifier...is Brute level awesome. The problem, and it's been raised on test, is it's a very dangerous power to use for a squishy. It's awesome as a finishing move but kind of risky otherwise.
I know, I love it. They finally put the power on an AT that actually gives a rat's about the self-damage. Plus, it's a fast-recharging melee heavy hitter, which means dom assault sets with a weak melee focus can still build around it.

 

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Originally Posted by Mid_Boss View Post
:O

ARE.... YOU.... KIDDING ME!?

My plant/fire/Mu perma dom is already on par damage wise with most blasters I've seen and has better control than any controller I've met. And now you're going to give me rain of fire, fire ball, and melt armor??

I.... I.... Don't know what to say.... Thank you? *sobs* Thank you so much.

What role do blasters fill now? Other than giving the emps something to do.
Oh, don't you worry. The blasters will start whining soon enough and will get yet another buff.

Please buff Ice Control.

 

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Originally Posted by DarkCurrent View Post
Oh, don't you worry. The blasters will start whining soon enough and will get yet another buff.
People who mostly play Blasters, may feel a little upstaged by Doms, Corruptors, and VEAT's. In general all Villains bring Excellent damage to the table. In addition all the above AT's are capable of buffing the team, debuffing the enemy, and controlling mobs.

My guess is the Blaster PPP's are going to some needed future love and attention..while the Dominator APP's will probably have their values adjusted down. I don't think that's a bad thing at all.

My level 50 Dominators:
Madame Mindbender 50 Mind/Energy
Fly Agaric 50 Plant/Thorn
Nate Nitro 50 Fire/Psi

 

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I'm also liking the new APPs, (with the exception of Conserve Power) but I'll be sticking with Mu Mastery in at least one case because of Surge of Power. Now, if Primal Forces had Overload . . .

Also, don't get too excited about Melt Armor, it looks like rubbish to me, 200 second recharge, 10 ft radius and 11% res debuff. meh. I'd rather have Poisonous Ray thanks very much.

 

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The APP's are great. I'm trying to work out a build using Ice Mastery for my Mind/Fire without sacrificing anything.

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Originally Posted by Mr_Heat_Stroke View Post
Doms = more perfect with this update. No more villain Dominators for me!
You don't need to be a hero to access APPs. You doo need to have completed a mission arc to get PPPs (ie be a villain for at least some content level 41+).

 

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Originally Posted by Liliaceae View Post
I'm also liking the new APPs, (with the exception of Conserve Power) but I'll be sticking with Mu Mastery in at least one case because of Surge of Power. Now, if Primal Forces had Overload . . .

Also, don't get too excited about Melt Armor, it looks like rubbish to me, 200 second recharge, 10 ft radius and 11% res debuff. meh. I'd rather have Poisonous Ray thanks very much.
Melt Armour is fools' gold in every APP that has it.

 

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an all dom team all with link mind could be game breaking no?

 

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an all dom team all with link mind could be game breaking no?
I'd think an all dom team with fire APP would be more game breaking.

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lol, I can just see Romulus waving a white flag as soon as he sees a dom team flying over the ridge at him:

"yah guys that was just a big misunderstanding, it's the nictus' fault I swear!"

 

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Seriously Doms have the Best Picks out of all the red side AT's. Every single APP set is worth it!

I tried Fire Mastery on my plant/fire dom and I think I made this REALLY evil laughter when I used Fireball and RoF...it kinda scared me...I sounded like the wicked witch of the west lol.

Sleet is just plain silly and with some Doms it's a GODsend...esp if you are using a Control Primary that is light on control like Fire/ and Gravity/.


 

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Originally Posted by RiverOcean View Post
Since the NDA is now lifted. For those that are curious, this is the current state of the Dominator Hero APP's. Link minds is a slightly weaker clone of "Mind Link". The rest of the powers pretty much have controller values. From my very limited testing of both Fire Mastery and Ice Mastery, I was pretty impressed by the utility and survivability they granted. Heroic Dom's are getting access to some substantial buff/debuff tools it this goes live as is.
Oh, I do want to say I dislike the order of powers in the energy and psionic APPs. Armors are coming late and the highly desirable AoEs will be tough if not impossible to slot heavily given where they unlock. Meanwhile, fire can fully slot its AoEs and shield before 50. Ice is very close in that dept as well.

I'd like energy torrent or explosive blast to open up at 41. Move conserve power to 47.

I'd like psi tornado to open at 41 or 44 as well.

All the armors should be 41... maybe 44 at the latest.

I hope Castle is open to moving these things around once GR mania dies down.

Please buff Ice Control.

 

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Originally Posted by DarkCurrent View Post
I'd like energy torrent or explosive blast to open up at 41. Move conserve power to 47.

I'd like psi tornado to open at 41 or 44 as well.

All the armors should be 41... maybe 44 at the latest.

I hope Castle is open to moving these things around once GR mania dies down.
I sent him a PM to the same effect. *fingers crossed* He definitely will have to make adjustments of some sort. *looks at Sleet*

 

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For ice, I'm looking at Hibernoob, myself. What the heck is that doing at lvl 41? Mako's is 47 iirc. That should be one of the last powers imo. Put ice storm and the armor in front. Sleet and Hoarfrost in the middle. Noob at the end.

Fire's set up pretty good I think.

Primal Forces is completely backwards. I could even live with conserve power if the AoEs came first.

Psi is scrambled pretty badly, too. Same with primal forces, I could live with IW, but please move it later and bring psinado up front.

Please buff Ice Control.

 

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Oh, don't you worry. The blasters will start whining soon enough and will get yet another buff.
I don't blame them! I've tried playing blasters. Several times. But each time I can't help but think "I could be doing damage close to this level in complete safety as a brute, dominator, or scrapper.... so why am I wasting my time on this debt machine?"

My electric/shield scrapper can one two hit with lightening rod and shield charge doing damage on par with a blaster's nuke. He can do it more often, with no endurance crash, and in the safety of decent defense and mez protection.


I know I'm going to take heat from blaster fans. They'll go into how THEIR blaster can do all these things and not die. But to do it they have to use very specific power combinations and IO sets that boost their defense to do what scrappers and brutes do easily with any random selection of powers and without a single IO set.

Blasters just don't have the damage to justify their complete lack of defenses. Because your DPS numbers don't matter diddly when you're mezzed or dead.

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OMG !!! My Fire thorn perma dom with fire ball ,rain of fire & melt armor !!!!!!!!
I think i luv this game again !!!!

 

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Originally Posted by Redd Rumm View Post
OMG !!! My Fire thorn perma dom with fire ball ,rain of fire & melt armor !!!!!!!!
I think i luv this game again !!!!
Why is everyone excited about melt armor? Most APP melt armor are rubbish

EDIT: 7,3 -def 11,3% -res on a 200 sec timer? Rubbish