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You can't. You can only search for people that are not hidden.
If you're looking for precise numbers, no - but the servers are always listed on the Select Server screen in the following order:
-Server you last logged onto
-Least populated Server
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-Most populated Server (usually Freedom/Virtue)
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AH. I didnt realize some of that.
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Originally Posted by RobertoLyon
If you're looking for precise numbers, no - but the servers are always listed on the Select Server screen in the following order:
-Server you last logged onto -Least populated Server . . . . -Most populated Server (usually Freedom/Virtue) |
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Technically, no. They are listed in order of SERVER LOAD. This is not synonymous with population. It is frequently a good indicator of population, but not always.
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Originally Posted by RobertoLyon
If you're looking for precise numbers, no - but the servers are always listed on the Select Server screen in the following order:
-Server you last logged onto -Least populated Server . . . . -Most populated Server (usually Freedom/Virtue) |
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One example of this : Freedom, for various reasons, has a higher average server population. Therefore, it has has additional hardware allocated to it. What it can show as a "Green" dot may or may not show up as a yellow dot on the other servers.|
Originally Posted by Ironblade
Technically, no. They are listed in order of SERVER LOAD. This is not synonymous with population. It is frequently a good indicator of population, but not always.
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We've also been told that if enough (but still a small number of) people did the "right" thing, they could make the load on a server skyrocket, so it would be wanting to keel over even without having a population near/higher than the others.
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In other words, open up the Team panel and do a search with nothing entered in any of the fields to see everyone on the server who hasn't set their Hidden flags (and those are a tiny, tiny minority of people).
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Originally Posted by HelinCarnate
You can't. You can only search for people that are not hidden.
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Bill Z Bubba did an unofficial poll and found that about 33% of the people responding use /hide. One third of the player base is hardly a tiny tiny minority.|
Originally Posted by JD_Gumby
In other words, open up the Team panel and do a search with nothing entered in any of the fields to see everyone on the server who hasn't set their Hidden flags (and those are a tiny, tiny minority of people).
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Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba
Thank everyone. We're still hovering at 33% using Hide From Searches and have been hovering there for some time. I'm going to call it at that.
1/3 of the player base is generally hiding from searches. Final tally: Yes: 34 No: 68 Is this a scientific poll? Of course not. Could a dev swoop in and say "the forum going populace is not an accurate representation of the playerbase on the whole." Of course. But for my calculations, 1/3 hidden it is. |
To the OP: Typically you'll find that the people that try to downplay the number of players that use the /hide feature are also the ones that like to cry "DOOM! The servers are empty!"
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102 people is not enough of a sample size to throw that number around like it's a fact. Even if it could be shown that forumites are a good representation of the playerbase, which I doubt, you'd need a larger sampling of players to have any confidence in results.|
Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
Bill Z Bubba did an unofficial poll and found that about 33% of the people responding use /hide. One third of the player base is hardly a tiny tiny minority.
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| To the OP: Typically you'll find that the people that try to downplay the number of players that use the /hide feature are also the ones that like to cry "DOOM! The servers are empty!" |
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You seem to be taking his comment personally and very actively interested in discrediting BillZ's thread results. This leads to a reasonable assumption that you have a bias towards the question.
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Originally Posted by Chocolate_Bacon
102 people is not enough of a sample size to throw that number around like it's a fact. Even if it could be shown that forumites are a good representation of the playerbase, which I doubt, you'd need a larger sampling of players to have any confidence in results.
I'm not even sure where to go with this one. I always thought you were kind of a reasonable squirrel... |
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This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.
I feel that Billz has a high number as well, but I don't flip out about it. (How many of the people in the game have multiple 50's, compared to the forum population?)
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Originally Posted by Fulmens
I feel that Billz has a high number as well, but I don't flip out about it. (How many of the people in the game have multiple 50's, compared to the forum population?)
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But I want my City Vault. And I want forum populations to display with things like heroes/villains (and I suppose /praetorians soon) because it does my villain no good to have a high enough hero population to push a server down the list if he is the only villain on. (Unless I want to go to a co-op zone to team.)
For all the EQ zones I never recall all this angst about populations because we all gathered to scrap for our turns to camp spawns. I don't want that here.
Bottom line, even the allegedly lowest pop servers have enough people if someone is willing to put forth some effort to team and if someone doesn't want to put forth the effort, there is Freedom.
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This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.
As I commented in the original thread, I too think BillZ's informal poll is probably
skewed (statisically speaking) if for no other reason than the likelihood that
us forumites are (in general) far less casual players than the game's population.
It's still a useful datapoint though - it shows that quite a few folks are aware
of the feature and even were it as low as 10%, that would still mean many
folks are hidden in-game at any given time.
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Often, I run Hamidon raids with everybody on /hide, to avoid the zone filling up and people DCing and being unable to get back in. I've found that a lot of people forget to turn off hide afterwards, and they only realize it because they can't get invites to teams afterwards.
Anyway, /seach will only return players online in your "side" of the game (heroes if you're playing blueside, villains if you're playing redside) even if you're in a coop zone. When Going Rogue hits, Praetoria will have its own population filter as well. So there's really no way to tell how many people are on the server at any given time; only how many are playing in a specific side and not hidden.
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Originally Posted by Chocolate_Bacon
102 people is not enough of a sample size to throw that number around like it's a fact. Even if it could be shown that forumites are a good representation of the playerbase, which I doubt, you'd need a larger sampling of players to have any confidence in results.
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He didn't just post the percentage result. He posted the exact count so everyone would have full information about the degree of validity. Furthermore, as for forumites being typical, we already had a discussion on that. No one could come up with any reason to think that forum posters would be either more or less likely to be hidden.
So we have already considered and evaluated all your points and, at the end of the day, the information from Bill's survey is all the data available to us. We know it's not a big enough sample, but it's better than nothing.
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With respect to the people who think Billz results were on the high side, I think the opposite. Only because our forums have one of the nicest if not the nicest community in MMO's, so to my way of thinking it's only natural that he would find that the majority of people using our forums would not use that feature. I think the actual number is closer to 40%, but I'm also hoping I'm wrong and you guys are right.
Server population is harder to pin down, but I think we reached a pretty good consensus that the subscriber base of CoX is between sixty and seventy thousand.
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No we didn't.
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Originally Posted by Brillig
Server population is harder to pin down, but I think we reached a pretty good consensus that the subscriber base of CoX is between sixty and seventy thousand.
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I get about 8% hidden from Talos Wentworths. I have been meaning to sample the AP or SC WW to see if its different. People who want to be be as recluse as possible would use the KR WW. I suppose I could hang out in Oroboros and sample there too.|
Originally Posted by Fulmens
I feel that Billz has a high number as well, but I don't flip out about it. (How many of the people in the game have multiple 50's, compared to the forum population?)
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Seeing who is hidden or not is boring as heck. If people want to be hidden they will be hidden.
H: Blaster 50, Defender 50, Tank 50, Scrapper 50, Controller 50, PB 50, WS 50
V: Brute 50, Corruptor 50, MM 50, Dominator 50, Stalker 50, AW 50, AS 50
Top 4: Controller, Brute, Scrapper, Corruptor
Bottom 4: (Peacebringer) way below everything else, Mastermind, Dominator, Blaster
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How are you checking? Keep in mind that "hidden" is not a single status, but a whole list of individual options.
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Originally Posted by newchemicals
I get about 8% hidden from Talos Wentworths. I have been meaning to sample the AP or SC WW to see if its different.
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I wish you could tell how many people are on a server as well as how many are currently online on a server. I'm thinking it's a fairly simple process to add to the home page of coh.com
This way, everyone can just look at it and find out how many people are currently on out of the total population for that server.
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Originally Posted by RobertoLyon
If you're looking for precise numbers, no - but the servers are always listed on the Select Server screen in the following order:
-Server you last logged onto -Least active Server . . . . -Most active Server (usually Freedom/Virtue) |
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While population does have a lot to do with the lists order, I have also seen servers that are considered the least populated like Protector, as far down as the forth slot from the bottom.
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That sort of info would be of great interest to CoH's competition, too. So I can see some justification for hiding it.
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Originally Posted by SPiNE
I wish you could tell how many people are on a server as well as how many are currently online on a server. I'm thinking it's a fairly simple process to add to the home page of coh.com
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I click on the character and see if they show on /search
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Originally Posted by Ironblade
How are you checking? Keep in mind that "hidden" is not a single status, but a whole list of individual options.
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H: Blaster 50, Defender 50, Tank 50, Scrapper 50, Controller 50, PB 50, WS 50
V: Brute 50, Corruptor 50, MM 50, Dominator 50, Stalker 50, AW 50, AS 50
Top 4: Controller, Brute, Scrapper, Corruptor
Bottom 4: (Peacebringer) way below everything else, Mastermind, Dominator, Blaster
CoH in WQHD
How can you tell how many people are on a server at any given time?