I think Sonic resonance is lacking

My own experience with Sonic.

It does a good job and really boosts teams. The problem is people start to play dumb once they realize they can just go nuts soloing whole spawns with the extra resistance. So you have a team where everyone is soloing and not teaming.

End cost on Disruption field is a bit excessive. Otherwise the problem isn't the set its the team.

... if they're out there shooting things and not getting killed, what's the problem?

... pretty much what Pitho said. The difference between 80% and 90% resistance is that it takes twice as much shooting to kill you.

Liquefy sucks. Disruption field should not be attached to an ALLY. It should be a location AoE or it should attached to a FOE like Enervating field. The knockback power should be removed. Force Field had its removed.

And the graphic just plain hurt. If you change the colors they dont fade after a while and are just painfu;. I quit a TF a few weeks back because I jut couldnt take it anymore. My eyes hurt and i got a bad headache.

No its not lacking. I have a lvl 50 sonic/sonic defender and i'm able to buff everyone on the team with 50+% resistance to everything except psi including my bubble. The bubble gives resistance + mezz protection. I can slap my friendly debuff AoE on my tanker and debuff everything in its path. on top of that i can drop liquefy in large mobs and its the equivilent to giving everyone on the team Elude combined with power buildup ancillary pool. with my sonic attacks and debuffs I am seriously doing some -res debuffs. Its not a highly desireable set i think because most people are ga ga over defense buffs and frankly with Io's and stuff defense buffs are highly desireable stacking up passed the soft cap. I think when teams start to realizing that having 1 cold and 1 sonic on a team is epic they will start being desireable. if you have 1 cold and 1 sonic you can pretty much give your team awesome def buffs awesome res buffs slows -def -res -kb's -tohit control combine that with a rad or emp or kin and you have a serious killing machine.

The only thing I dislike about Sonic is that it doesn't have an AoE resistance debuff that doesn't require a teammate. They're pretty awesome on teams, but a little lackluster while solo.

Subjective feedback: Liquefy -ToHit, and -Def don't seem to have any visual element to show you if it is working or not, which leads to the perception that the final tier power in the set is lackluster, and it is hard to tell how many enemies you have debuffed with it. With that said, the hold is too short, and the knockup seems to have a lower chance compared to other patch powers, which really disappointed me given most other patch powers out of the box are effective at deterring movement, while many of the enemies simply run right out of the Liquefy patch as if it was not even there. I was surprised at the damage component of Liquefy which is really nice as a bonus, and compliments an AoE centric primary or secondary well. As everyone knows already the recharge of the power is too long.

I think many people in this thread underestimate how good the -Def is from Liquefy. But I haven't observed a situation where the -ToHit has taken effect, and improved my survivability yet (Need to play around more with the set). It seems that enemies are still able to attack me at range with no problem landing their mark, where I end up face planting as a result. But when the knock up effect does work, my survivability shoots up dramatically. The problem is many people in this thread vastly exaggerate the hold, and knock up effect for liquefy, as both are lackluster compared to other patch powers which can be obtained at lower levels.

In summary for Liquefy:

Good: Damage, -Def, Knock up (when it works)

Bad: No visual elements for debuffs, -ToHit doesn't seem to work, hold too short, knock up very rare. enemies run out of the patch with ease, long recharge time for the power

I'll provide more feedback when I fully invest some slots in the liquefy power (six slots). But my initial impressions are mixed, which mirrors the extreme feelings expressed about this power throughout this thread.

My two (fairly minor) beefs with Sonic Dispersion:

Liquefy needs a shorter recharge. It is a fantastic power, as many have pointed out, but also lacks the constant utility of something like tar patch, lingering rad, earthquake, or freezing rain (as other have pointed out).


End costs are far too high. I was able to achieve a manageable endurance situation on my Spine/DA scrapper far more easily than my sonic defender. Which is to say it was difficult on the scrapper, nearly impossible on the defender. Now at level 41, and packed to the gills with end redux, the def still leans on blue inspirations and recovery serums.

I like the style, and I'm a sucker for -res, but the set could use a little love.

the biggest problem with sonic is that it's extremely unfriendly to soloers. The shields and -res debuffs are nice. But they literally only work in a team. Sonic Resonance needs a buff. Not for groups, but for soloers.

Liquefy is horrible and needs to recharge faster, but the rest of the set is fine I think. On my Grav/Sonic controller I found myself leaning very heavily on the secondary given how terrible Gravity is, and I was not disappointed.

My take on Sonic (as a player who groups with Sonic users)

1) Liquefy is great, but the uptime is horrible. For a tier 9 Power you would (or at least I) think that (with major slotting and IOs) you could at least get this to 50% uptime.

2) Sonic repulsion targeting another player ??? As someone once said, maybe the devs just decided to be different. This should be moved to a self toggle just like Kinetics and FF.

3) My personal opinion only, which is not shared by most others, is that the +Res amounts for this set are a tad low. Now that we have protection from our toggles dropping, sleep is less of a problem, but a solo Sonic should be able to do better on Resistance before level 41. And that is because there is a huge difference between 15% defence and 30% resistance in-game. It doesnt matter to me how the numbers "pan-out", I have played both FF and Sonic on teams AND Solo. FF beats Sonic hands-down in every way solo, and IMO is also better for a team.