Lol.
But were you terribad? Did you suck? Did you get farmed? You getting to play is irrelevant to the topic. I was referring to people that are totally new, are terribad etc. I wasn't saying those people didn't get to play at all. I said their play time was limited and very situational based on who the matches were against or how the previous match went. That more often than not someone terribad or brand new to pvp or the game would get very little actual match time if any. Either way though because my teams were garbage as I said you would say, you must be right.
All of you arguing so strongly against other conflicting events while the ladder is stabilizing or claiming that the ladder was noob/terribad friendly and welcoming to new pvprs....I sure do hope to see those open arms to the new pvpr's/terribad pvprs when the opportunity arises.
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Originally Posted by vindizzLe
Every single test team you played on was garbage.
Velocity was the first test team I ever joined, I started in the first officials I was eligible for (the ladder's inception) immediately. Plenty of players that joined when I did were also given the opportunity to play. They may not have started, but they played. There were plenty of teams on test that rotated in other players on their roster during officials. Hell, I got stuck therming with Johnny Wildfire while we were both in VORI. And Kaiserin was online and ready to play. Don't tell me what's bull and what isn't, you've never played for anyone worth mentioning. Case closed. |
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Maybe play the first 2 matches for 20 minutes, then the third one, if needed as a tie breaker, will be 10 minutes?
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Originally Posted by vindizzLe
Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but we should probably put a rule in that can stop a team from going for one kill with two stalkers on the team, and having the rest of the team DC out in order to gain a cheap win. At the least, make a notation that such a tactic can/will result in a nullification of the match results and a replay of the match until it is done so legitimately.
And on the note of how line-ups should be submitted. I don't really care. Counter-picking is really boring and is nowhere near as strategic or exciting as barrier makes it out to seem. Edit: Add a rule that allows for the OPTION of a 20 minute official if both teams agree to it. While I'm sure plenty will say now that such a rule is unnecessary, it'd be nice to at least have. I know I personally asked practically every team that we challenged/fought on the ladder to do a 20 minute match before agreeing to 10. Plus it'd be nice to see a 20 minute official again, but that's me. |
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Na its just an option to play it that way. Im sure 99% will do 10 minutes but hey the option is there so could be fun.
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Originally Posted by Emo_Bitter
Maybe play the first 2 matches for 20 minutes, then the third one, if needed as a tie breaker, will be 10 minutes?
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Just make it so the captains before hand mutually agree on 10 or 20 minutes matches that they'll play.. Like you said, an option.
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Originally Posted by Daknah
Na its just an option to play it that way. Im sure 99% will do 10 minutes but hey the option is there so could be fun.
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Originally Posted by CriticalKat
Lol.
But were you terribad? Did you suck? Did you get farmed? You getting to play is irrelevant to the topic. I was referring to people that are totally new, are terribad etc. I wasn't saying those people didn't get to play at all. I said their play time was limited and very situational based on who the matches were against or how the previous match went. That more often than not someone terribad or brand new to pvp or the game would get very little actual match time if any. Either way though because my teams were garbage as I said you would say, you must be right. All of you arguing so strongly against other conflicting events while the ladder is stabilizing or claiming that the ladder was noob/terribad friendly and welcoming to new pvprs....I sure do hope to see those open arms to the new pvpr's/terribad pvprs when the opportunity arises. |
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I'm willing to kickball but I must be potty trained and need someone to hold my hand and offer me positive reinforcement while making my first PvPOO. d;D
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hold my hand perma.
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Originally Posted by PermaBanned
hahano
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I'd sooner **** a goat
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Originally Posted by Tokyo
hold my hand perma.
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If we're just concerned with stalkers, then great.
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Originally Posted by Daknah
Its alot simpler then you think, if a team only has stalkers on the map at the end of the round they lose. Trying to say DCers and stuff just isnt going to work.
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Originally Posted by PermaBanned
I'd sooner **** a goat
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I'll hold your hand while you do it.
CriticalKat can you please stop yourself from using the word terribad so often, it's really annoying and giving me headache, I know it's cool that you like to admit you're bad, just say bad or terrible, please.
I'm so serious, though, it honestly gives me a headache.
terrikat...
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Im pretty sure thats the only thing that can pull it off. Leave in 2 MMs or 2 Emps and bad things will happen. Pretty sure were just worried about people getting a quick kill and quitting out the non stalkers because without a fort you arent going to find them and you win 1-0.
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Originally Posted by Psoma
If we're just concerned with stalkers, then great.
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I'm not trying to defend Vince here but Vince wasn't very good when he started. I used to think he was terrible back in the day. Look where he is now. It took him a while to get to where he is now. And that's how it should be.|
Originally Posted by CriticalKat
Lol.
But were you terribad? Did you suck? Did you get farmed? You getting to play is irrelevant to the topic. I was referring to people that are totally new, are terribad etc. I wasn't saying those people didn't get to play at all. I said their play time was limited and very situational based on who the matches were against or how the previous match went. That more often than not someone terribad or brand new to pvp or the game would get very little actual match time if any. Either way though because my teams were garbage as I said you would say, you must be right. All of you arguing so strongly against other conflicting events while the ladder is stabilizing or claiming that the ladder was noob/terribad friendly and welcoming to new pvprs....I sure do hope to see those open arms to the new pvpr's/terribad pvprs when the opportunity arises. |
Teams that have starters will play their starters in officials. Those same teams will play everyone else in practice. If the newbie can prove themselves, then they can earn a starter spot. It isn't a hard concept to understand.
GR is going into CB soon, test is prolly not the best of places to do it. Don't really matter to me, but we know what to expect of test.... nothing.
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I had no idea pvp was this serious
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I agree 100%. I think people got tired of reading all the TLDR posts to know what the conversation was about. I said we should have the test ladder and a mini-freedom ladder. The mini-freedom ladder being a doorway for new pvpr's and people that are not good enough to get on a test team as an avenue to get better. Also would provide a constant new supply of new blood for the test ladder as people left.|
Originally Posted by _Avid
I'm not trying to defend Vince here but Vince wasn't very good when he started. I used to think he was terrible back in the day. Look where he is now. It took him a while to get to where he is now. And that's how it should be.
Teams that have starters will play their starters in officials. Those same teams will play everyone else in practice. If the newbie can prove themselves, then they can earn a starter spot. It isn't a hard concept to understand. |
Some peoples opinon was that would conflict with the ladder and it was a bad idea and not needed because all of those new pvprs and people that are not good enough yet to get on a team would be able to join the ladder teams or make their own team. As if ladder teams have always been some huge welcome wagon or something and getting on a team was simple.
People have different opinions. It all really doesn't matter because people will participate in what they want to, and won't if they don't.
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sorry im new but was there a mini ladder before for new players?
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Originally Posted by CriticalKat
I agree 100%. I think people got tired of reading all the TLDR posts to know what the conversation was about. I said we should have the test ladder and a mini-freedom ladder. The mini-freedom ladder being a doorway for new pvpr's and people that are not good enough to get on a test team as an avenue to get better. Also would provide a constant new supply of new blood for the test ladder as people left.
Some peoples opinon was that would conflict with the ladder and it was a bad idea and not needed because all of those new pvprs and people that are not good enough yet to get on a team would be able to join the ladder teams or make their own team. As if ladder teams have always been some huge welcome wagon or something and getting on a team was simple. People have different opinions. It all really doesn't matter because people will participate in what they want to, and won't if they don't. |
http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/6685529/3-hot-and-vex-3
I remember in the last Renegade vs GMW official Avid was like the only one we killed and he was on a fort.... jus' sayin
Why does vert have more rep than me?
Someone handle this
http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/6685529/3-hot-and-vex-3
Ive given too much rep in the last 24 hours or I would. But I think vert needs more rep too.
Its alot simpler then you think, if a team only has stalkers on the map at the end of the round they lose. Trying to say DCers and stuff just isnt going to work.