Further PvP/Ladder

We should probably get back on track, ignoring the idiots, if at all possible, and decide who we can get together to settle and answer questions and disputes. Until we agree on whether there should be a roster-cap, if so, what size? Live, Test? Shark-ban? Stalker-limitation, etc, we can't really move forward.

Gonna write this up and pray it isn't a psypunk post.

I was on Integrity/Statesman's Watch with bitter and Neuronia and had a blast in the dUmb/PCJL/Integrity love triangle matches. Then I left to help some friends from Triumph get PE going.

Who did we practice with the first time we ran a practice match against someone, oh yeah that would be JAL when they were #1, and lets just say we got destroyed something like 30 some to zippo. We of course expected this to happen but we wanted everyone that had come to test to do join the team to see what the top teams were running/doing. We got some more people that had had experience and we practiced hard and got better. Not going to say we were ever a number 1 quality team but we did get better and won matches against dUmb, PCJL, Blacklisted. When VR broke up and Ajax, Helly, MAC B and Aura joined the team, I believe we were in a great position to move to the #1 spot and were doing great in practices against OS, then I12 hit and some people quit, some old VR people wanted to get their group back together so Ajax, Helly, Mac and Aura left to form PWNY XPRESS, which pretty much destroyed our team because we couldn't even field 8 with all the people who had quit and the leaving of those 4. So our team disbanded. Now the important part I want to say is that I am against the whole " lets have a draft so none of the teams are stacked" but want to say that just with the addition of those 4 players and in our matches they didn't all play at the same time, it was a mix and match of the old PE players and the guys that came over from VR, but just the addition of those 4 and the experience they had upped our team from eh ok to actually pretty damn good. So would it help if we did do the split up the top teams? Yeah it would more than likely but I don't think it is the right way to do it. People want to play with friends etc. But I would suggest some of the top team guys picking up some others and maybe find those diamonds in the rough players that if on a good team will probably shine brightly.

Everyone will get better just by practicing, everyone won't be the top teams but everyone will get better.

Test or Freedom, would rather it be on test with Freedom as the backup, as some others have stated.

Oh and yeah, I am uhhh looking for a team.....

and yeah sorry about the TL/DR /psypunk post over...

This is true, and what's important to keep in mind is.. Player migration does happen, as it did in this example. So during the course of your own team.. Your being a general term, your players get better, and you may end up getting just what you need.

no roster limits
no blind line-ups
no bans on anything but P-Ray, Defender TK and such. (Fossilize, Thunderstrike and Sharks remain unbanned).
the end.
no bs rules.
go to the northeast corner of siren's if you want to fiteclub.
less carebears plz.

Unfunny? What's intended to be funny? He's a champion of the people.

dUmb has a line up and is ready to discuss with other captains.

Same power bans as before (except maybe thunderstrike) unless anything is fixed
yes to blind lineups
will discuss stalkers
GTFO with splitting us up
random map or home-away-random, willing to discuss.
no HD, no TS, DR on, small insps only
etc.

edit: almost forgot- all matches 8v8