Further PvP/Ladder

PvP, to a certain extent, was jumpstarted a bit, and now there's a chance to get involved. There's absolutely no reason for anyone who participated and enjoyed, at the the competitive aspect, the League to not join the Ladder. Obviously some won't be leading teams, and some will play more than others. Basically, when you're deciding what team you're trying to get on, you'll want to pick one that matches your skill, or barely exceeds it. Why? obviously, that equates to play-time, which equates to more practice, resulting in either your team growing, or jumping ship, and getting on another. Basically, it works itself out given time/effort.

Can you baddos stop quarreling and just start this ish already? thanks

Ok kat here is the thing. If the new less skilled pvpers all create teams it would essentially create a d6 version of the ladder at the bottom and they would play hella fun matches against each other. Those that got better faster would be fighting the better teams via being higher on the ladder. Its not a pvp io farm since you dont have to play every team twice ie the league. Team Greeny (hes a friend I can joke about him) doesnt have to challenge U2BU2BG. If enough lower end teams that wanna pvp join the ladder there is the lower end competition that you are looking for.

Yes blind line ups
Yes stalker limit

PUTS FOOT DOWN

Ugh, ok, this is kinda getting out of hand here ladies and gents.

What none of us, aside from a few, realize is that a Ladder is self supporting and self sufficient. Actually, holding normal kickballs on the side promotes PvP in a fashion of where decent "new" players in kickballs might get picked up and get noticed by Ladder Teams. All in all, if done properly the Ladder will/should be self supporting and self ran by captains.

I am not a good player, I have gotten somewhat better over the years with some experience and as legit players left my rankings went up. But, 2 years ago I found a team for test ( Integrity and lolA.S.S.). I was a no namer from Infinity and stayed on Infinity for most of the Ladder while everyone else was on Freedom. Point is : If people really want to PvP they will find the teams and the teams will accept people based on notability and skill they have seen from kickballs/other events.

All in all we need to focus on getting a Ladder off the ground in the best and most efficient way possible while the summer is still fresh. Also, support and create PvP Events : Kickballs, Fight Nights, etc. These are "Feeder Programs" for the ladder and should be treated as such. The purpose of the D6 team and league was almost a disignated kickball of sorts, having new people in the mix with "veterans" to catch on to techniques and PvP game play.

However, saying we have to spread all these kids out or take them all is nonsense for a Ladder. Invoking a "Pity Draft" rule isn't helping anyone, not the team and not the player, and most certainly not the Ladder. There are teams out there who will take new players in hopes of turning them into better ones, and there are teams out there who take the best and strive for CHAMPIONSHIPS (<3 Silit). Its just how the system works, people are in it for different things and you can only hope people get what they want out of the system, in most regards.

With that being said, a new player should show some initiative in wanting to participate in High-End PvP : such as attendance and performance at kickballs, pvp events, and consistancy in zones all strike a bell for me. I would not expect anyone to HAVE to take someone because we have to put newbies on teams. That person could NEVER show up but take a spot of someone of equal skill but with more dedication; once again, not fair or helpful to anyone.

On the flip side of this though, we have to look at ourselves and expect more from our Veterans. We need to be accepting of people who show the initiative, but just not accept every Jane, Dick and Harry who signs up. We need to host more Kickballs and PvP Events and be more of a scene in PvP Zones, all the time looking for "new blood" for teams. If "newbies" see us in the zones and always hosting events curiousity will kill the Kat(?) and they will start to take initiative.

I think people are confusing what needs to be expected out of a Ladder with what was expected out of the League. The League was designed to gather up what was left of the existing PvP Community with new blood and try to make the community bigger. A Ladder should be looking at taking that community and making it competitive, we are not going through Kindergarten again.

The Ladder should be competitive, yet accepting at the same time, its up to us to make the competition and initiate the "feeder programs" in hopes to inspire interesting. Its up to the "new players" to come to us in hopes of learning more about PvP and furthering skill. And then its up to us to help integrate these players in. Never down the road should be have to accept everyone and teach everyone the ropes in the competitive environment that should be the Ladder. Honestly, if we have to "Potty Train" these kids all over again then apparently our first attempt was a failure, its time to grow up and move on with what we have.

Honestly if you look at it most teams will have at least one "Diamond In The Rough" that will be on their lineups, some teams maybe more (e.i. RA FTW - where the Captains get farmed). But its all in the hopes achieving a sense of unity with your team and community as a whole.

That is just my $0.02.

RA FTW is recruiting btw :P

"Wall of Text crits you for -50DKP"
-Bitter

Also, it may be a factor... But may not. I don't think anything's quite definite as far as whether this will be conducted on Freedom or Test. From what I've seen, more supported Test, but that's a small sample. A lot of people involved don't bother much with the forums, and even if reading through, may not post. (Like me!) So DLing Test, Duping, etc may all be removed from the situation.

Just saying, don't get too excited about what hasn't happened, and if you'd prefer it *not* be on Test, you can try to make that case.

I'm more in favor of banning sharks then putting a stalker limit but I might be a minority on that one.

I'm not giving advice at all, but daayyyuuum, son!!!

PermaBanned, Joined date: May2010, post count: 1, this makes me lol more.

Nah, see. When you don't have friends, and no one's listening to you, you pretend you're someone else and defend yourself. It's pretty epic. I'm going to start doing that often to win arguments, or at least feel better.