CriticalKat

There is already a /command for doing that, and it is broken. Go figure.

I didn't say he should be accommodated. What I said is he is going to do it regardless of what the rest of the server wants or whats right or morally fair. No raid leader can do jack **** about it so the best bet is just to keep the drama down and not let it impact the raid.

I am curious what the raid or team leaders were supposed to do about Bud and his 2 accounts? Its something he has been doing for years. In fact before the zone limits being so low he often brought way more accounts in than that. I think its way better to let him help and be on teams and helping than alienate him and stir up drama and just have him go sit on a rock and not contribute.

But contributing some on 2 accounts > him sitting on a rock on 10 accounts.

Either way he is gonna do it, why make a bad situation worse?

*realize I wasn't at the raid and have no idea what the drama entailed.

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Truff. lol

There is a bit more to it than that if you actually want to be "decent"....

I will be out of town on vacation this week so see you guys next week!

Hai Masque.

There are new trials? Hmmmm I need to log in the game some time soon. Text me when you get ready to run another one and I will see if I can squeeze in some time to game.

Ok Trevor sorry but I was just invited to the Theater for Friday night and can't see turning down rl entertainment. Wish you guys luck and hopefully I can catch the next event!

I would rather do my drk fender if I am gonna have to do a build so move me to fender team plz sir.

Corrupter -- Rad/Therm

This is a solo pvp build with no shield buffs so no hurt feelings if you would rather give the spot to someone else.

This. Exactly how I do it. I target a boss or lieutenant in the front or middle of the mob and I jump over their head taunting as I do. The taunt animation will automatically swing my character back around facing the mob that is now facing me. Then I pretty much use footstomp and fireball vigorously and taunting anything on the outskirts (as needed) that might be messing with my teammates as they come in and steamroll. I by no means consider melee as my strongest characters being I don't care for them much but its not exactly rocket science.

P.s. Rad + Hotfeet out herds/damages/pulls aggro than any melee toon I have ever seen. Capped HP build with some decent damage resistance numbers and a luck or 2 inspiration will survive just as well too. :-) Not that I practice that personally being I love to faceplant. Just sayin.

I predict a miraculous appearance of an Ouro portal or a brute that was a tank in dUmb's future on Sunday night. Just a different voice asking "How big of a deuche do you guys wanna be?" And on mumble instead of on vent.

I would probably agree that it is not a big enough deal to deprive a team of playing in the playoffs, wasn't my decision though. I think basically Rice felt shitted on being Chris talked him in to this team to begin with.

The reason I personally am making a big deal out of it is because it just gets old in general. Anyone, including you, dex, vex or anyone who might be saying its no big deal would be pissed if the same thing was done to your team. Less vocal members of your own team feel the same way which is how it was found out to begin with that Chris was playing for you guys.

The whole reason for a roster is to limit how many people belong to a team. The whole reason for a draft is to spread out the talent fairly. Without those boundaries the structure of the league is non existent. Fillers just totally eliminates the reasoning behind either and makes the whole league unfair and teams stacked and the whole thing just lacking in the fun factor IMHO. Well except for the team/teams doing it because they end out winning. Not because their original roster was just that good but because they manipulate the system to have a huge advantage.

That is the biggest paragraph of BS in this whole conversation. Atleast Dex said ohhh well we did it deal with it rather than make excuses. You guys had more than 8 of your own team available for every match. It doesn't take a genius to do the math when you can see who played and who was benched in each match and who was sitting around pocket D.

Had it not been for the 3 of us from MMMM good that Rice picked up there wouldn't have been enough to do the matches so not exactly gonna feel sympathy for a team that had enough to bench key players in rounds to fit in someone who wasn't on their team. Furthermore you guys didn't need Chris to rad being Dex is a FAR better rad than Chris is for the simple reason that Chris is very farmable and Dex is not.
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I stepped down from leadership 3 weeks ago due to RL crap but being it was never done officially on the boards I wanted to help those that wanted to play for a team get on one being the team had fallen apart. Not that I owe any explanations....

Let me start by saying when I say "same people or same team" I am not referring to just you, or Vex for that matter. Several on your team were part of the U2BG drama during last Freedom League. Several including yourself were part of the Champion league drama.

I really think you are missing the entire point. You keep bringing up Reaver playing my account. Reaver was on our roster. I was on our roster. You didn't go in to the match expecting to play with certain players only to discover players not even on the team or roster playing in the match. You comparing Reaver playing my account to someone not even on your roster playing you account (not the first time you guys have done this either...random shoutout to HOJ ect.) is not even close to the same thing.

Ringers have been done forever and ever. Hell I remember Reaver playing my emp on my second account during an official on test because we needed one. I can remember UW playing my account during an official. So I am not saying that it hasn't been done or that I am above reproach. What I am saying though is that you started this league. You out of everyone should have been the one setting examples of fair pvp. You guys didn't even need a ringer. You knew the situation regarding Chris and how he left his team. You chose to just go with the flow rather than doing things the right way. Had you used HOJ or Vinnie as ringers I bet this end result wouldn't have happened. You used Chris knowing the situation.

Maybe Rice did dissolve the team because we lost. I don't know. Doesn't really make sense being they were securely in the finals win or lose last night. That doesn't change that you could have handled things differently. You didn't, the team dissolved and really no one cares. Except the people on the team who wanted to keep playing.....

And the whole you can remove Chris post...had it not been posted on the exact same day he played for your team that statement might not look like BS.

I am done with this convo because really I don't care and the people who do care would have posted their feelings about it but they didn't care enough to get involved with the drama. Hopefully dUmb will win this thing so that just for once a team who plays fairly wins in the end. *shrugs*

No from what I was told Vinnie was offered as a trade for Chris a few weeks ago and he turned down that opportunity to go to that team. Then turned around and ditched his team with no trade to go to that same team. I don't blame Rice for disbanning that was shady. Especially being it was Chris's idea to form AJ's to begin with and the purpose of forming up was to beat the team he ultimately ditched his own team to go play with.

That is interesting being you said

I have no problem with that. People on the roster sharing each others accounts has been done since pvp started in this game in every organized pvp league and ladder.

Reaver played my account and he was on our roster.
Just like someone on our roster was playing my account tonight.
Chris is not on your roster.
Chris was the Captain that actually started AJ's.
He ditched them.
You allowed someone not on your roster to play your account.
Its not against the rules but it is lame.

There is a team with really decent pvpr's that has to hide people on their roster, use ringers and just basically have no integrity every single league.

With that being said being I pretty much didn't want to play in this league and got talked in to it GLHF to all the other 3 teams that don't stand a chance of winning being the winning team as usual will be the one that causes all the drama and has to win by being shady rather than just pvp'n.

If you don't have someone you can take off core to make room for Havoc let me know and I will unofficially officially reconstruct the team long enough to make you a dead weight trade. :-) Pretty sure there is no rule against it.

This.

It is only appropriate that fat trannee with big deek replace skinny nerd with little deek.

Ok this team is officially disbanned. Ty guys for sticking it out even with no leadership. You guys rawk!