Further PvP/Ladder

lol I know. It happened as I said "don't die guys".

There have been various leagues and ladders going on across most every server for as long as I can remember. I already know you know that though and are just being your normal quirky self.

I was actually serious, I was like 7 when pvp first came out.

The thing is kat, if there is a mini ladder it doesnt give newer people incentive to make a team. With player base that we have right now we should be able to field 10 teams. Realistically well get 6 maybe 7. Having those extra 3 would give alot more fun matches to the lower end teams. Not to mention those people will get alot better playing against better class competition were if it was a mini ladder of jv players they'd just be content to beat on easier competition. I personally enjoy my matches against u2bg more so then those against EP, a challenge makes it more fun. So why try and hurt the ladder? Are you afraid that you wont get onto a team? Make one. Right now we have 5 people yet are still gonna do the ladder because well fill from whats out there. Plenty of hidden gems.



BTW Fates Vex Jesus Rodge and myself are looking for players aswell as a team name. We lead by committee so just talk to any of em.

Like I said earlier, some ladder groups are like what you're implying and some aren't. If you're worried about new players riding the bench in officials, they should if the goal is to win. They should be practicing to improve and earn their spot to start. That's the most logical approach for a team that wants to win. Not all teams do that or are like that.

There were several teams that started from a group of new PvPers and many of them had some success. What you're suggesting with running mini ladders while the ladder is active is simply splitting the community with two leagues to compete in. What makes you think your mini ladder won't have the same issues/results as the ladder these guys are trying to get going? There will always be someone better and those that can't keep up will be benched, regardless of which league they're in. It would only make more sense to have a single league where this occurs instead of two. At least with one league, there will be more people to give advice.

I have no intentions of joining a ladder right now I don't have the time or the drive to commit after the League. I have already been offered a team so no that is not an issue. How is having multiple pvp events going on at once hurting the ladder? JFC, really. Here it is plain and simple. The PVPEC's job is to run events on the live servers. They have never stopped doing so for any other ladder/league/pvp event in the past and are not going to stop now.

I have no idea if I want to run a mini ladder or if I do when I will do it or where I will do it. However if I did want to I started planning it way before this new hype of getting test ladder going right now began so not sure how one trumps the other in your mind. The fact still remains that other events will be ran not only by the PVPEC but by any other individual that cares to do so. It shouldn't hinder the ladder. People can participate in more than one thing if they want and if they don't they don't have to. The test ladder is not the only form of pvp that should be available. The world doesn't revolve around what one group of pvpr's are interested in. People enjoy events and options and variety. If MORE pvp is not an attractive picture to you then particpate in whatever pvp you care to.


So all the other leagues and pvp events in the past while the old ladder was running split the communities? Really? I find that hilarious. When I was on test (and yeah I know vinnie I was on garbage teams that didnt count) I also participated in tvplp or whatever it was called for two seasons and a league on Pinnacle at the same time. I partipated in every PVPEC event or random event that happened on any server I happened to have toons on at the same time. It wasn't that hard. I still had time to play the game, have a real life etc. More pvp = more fun. Being several on my test team and other test teams did the exact same thing I know I wasn't the only one or that this is a hard concept to wrap your mind around.

same goes for me , but unfortunately for a new kid with a weird blapper , no team and not many people know about him is hard to play

I didn't try out for OS - I asked Unbalanced if I could join and Shocker told me "no one ever asked to join us before..." I don't think you were actually in OS at the time...(you were hanging out on vent and doing practice but you were not doing pvp at the time ).

and we all know who got chaos king in os...

1. The ladder was already established when many of the other leagues were ran. Ladder teams could schedule around it. It appears you want to start a mini league at the same time as the Ladder. That is creating a split. If you wanted to do so at different points in time, then it isn't a problem and one can work around the other.
2. What makes you think every new player is like you and willing to do multiple leagues? Or has multiple toons ready to PvP with in various different locations.
3. What makes you think every new player is like you and has the time to do multiple leagues?

It isn't rocket science. Most new PvPers are less than casual PvPers and they don't have the same access as the more hardcore PvPers, even casual PvPers, do. Hell, I don't even have access to a lot of toons/IO's/time and I'm considered hardcore by most.

I remember being asked my opinion about you. I said if he wanted to join, let him try out and if you guys like him, take a vote.

As for Chaos... I still blame you and miss to a lesser extent.

What makes you think they don't?

I could be wrong here because I obviously wasn't around when the ladder first started however I am pretty certain it was not the very first organized pvp event. Being the PVPEC formed it and the PVPEC was in existance before the ladder I think its a pretty safe bet to say the ladder was created and flourished while other pvp events were going on.

Again ( for atleast the 5th time in this thread alone) I do not know if or when I might run a mini ladder or where it will be. (If I do it will take some time to set up, time to get prize support, time to get an updater, time for teams to sign up, time for practing and then eventually to start) I do however know we have other events that will be coming out. Immediately. This month. I also know we have reps across all 11 servers that are going to continue to run events regardless of whether the ladder is forming, when it forms or if it is stable. While I can wholeheartedly understand that this is the #1 priority for a lot of people (test used to definitely be my #1 priority) and its exciting that maybe things are heading back in that direction it is not for everyone. It is not the only event that should or will go on. There are not only people that will be joining this ladder that are going to want other forms of pvp but there are people not interested in this ladder that want other forms of organized pvp. Because you don't, doesn't mean others don't.

give up you're fighting a losing battle

Yes because a total of 6 people out of possible hundreds of pvprs think it is a bad idea to have multiple and more pvp events.

The GR closed beta has been going on since just after PAX, according to Posi. I'd venture a guess that they're using a different server for it.

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back in i12, i didn't have to market pvp / pve / farm / get io's on live. and everything was happening on test. i'm pretty sure that throughout i11-i13, i logged into live about a third as often as i logged into test; noting that i barely PL'd stuff outside of dxp weekends or in teams.

that's what makes it all different. haves and have-nots is what this last league became. playing on freedom makes sense as a back-up, but with blind line-ups, it's bound to be equally as stupid as this last league.

adding the pressure of performing in a live environment is gonna take away from people pvping on test...

anyways... i'm not ever gonna be up for spending enough time in game to rival -divine's 200 dollar tanks. even if i'm talking about sitting afk on justice on two boxes with a MM and a tank.

in the end, that bs we went through was a battle of teh loots. and yeah, stupid game design is stupid.

No one is saying that you cant do events so calm down. Were saying not to do a mini ladder since its a long term event that is an exact copy of the event that we have been trying to get going for as long as I have been pvping. Why did you have support for the league? Because we wanted a ladder and that was the best way we could do it. Silit and Sneaky didnt get on board just to help the zoners arena. Throw an event every night of the week for the next month we dont give 2 sheets just dont go trying to make a mini ladder or league right now. Give us some time before you try to ruin what were doing. Ive said since before the league that the ladder would rely on the bottom teams to survive. Go ahead and have your "1v1 turny of female toons only" one night things wont hurt the ladder but making a carbon copy for the lazy people will.

I think I like you again because of this line.

Yay!

its all good brother. plug ur nose and dive in. if your sinking, sombody will pull u up.

What type of blap?

$200 really?!? damm son.

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