Been toying around with all the secondaries for DS. Think I'm gonna go with FF. The set has enough skippable powers that I can take some attacks and leadership and still be fine. Plus, shielded Demons are a sight to behold.
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I currently have a 50 MM that is Thugs/Dark. I've been thinking of actually doing Dark again due the great defense I can get from the set. My MM as it stands has his S/L defense capped. He really feels like a tank. The only problem I have witth Thugs (and I'm sure a lot of people do as well) is the damn Arsonist's burn that forces mobs to just scatter all over the place. I'm really hoping with Demons I can eliminate the running around like a chicken with my head cut off.
Also who doesn't love a pet who heals for you 
I have a 28 DS/FF on test and am happy with it. It has enough skippable powers after leadership, leaping, and fitness that I can get all the whip attacks and epics.
My defense on pets is just over 30% and with my son teaming with me pushes the soft cap with his defense buff. I can not comment on whip yet, but I got to 28 in only about 3 days of play time and it has been a blast.
But... realize there is a bug with the enhancments on pets. The second teir pet gets both damage and resistance from Damage IO's and or Resistance IO's. You do not get the full damage bonus from the IO, but if you slot 3 level 25 damage IO's you will get 60% damage buff and 60% resistance. When they fix this bug my pets will not have the same survivability.
I had a DS/Thermal during test and loved it. The visual effects of the shields on the demons plus the healing powers are great. Plus, Thermal as a secondary fits well with the whole DS concept.
I keep hinking thermal because it fits thematically, but maybe dark? I'd better mess with a build before the servers pop up 
on test i was juggling between either a demon/trap or a demon/TA
when i can get on im gonna make a demon/trap because i reasoned to myself that traps has better tools for not only debuffing the enemy but also keeping the demons alive
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Is the bug still in oil slick where the pets will go running away? Reason I ask is the demons is a very melee oriented set and with TA..that could be problematic.
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Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master
on test i was juggling between either a demon/trap or a demon/TA
when i can get on im gonna make a demon/trap because i reasoned to myself that traps has better tools for not only debuffing the enemy but also keeping the demons alive |
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Going Demon/Dark MM. It fits the concept of bringing forth nightmares.
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Just for theme and generally the fact that it'd look darn impressive, I'd like to do /Thermal, but fear it may need more slots and power picks than I am prepared to give, being as I want the Demon/ attacks. I tried /Pain on test and that worked okay, I suppose, though it felt a little plain, but I may try it on live.
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on the demon/TA i have on test i didnt get high enough to lvl to test that, and i dont have any /TA mm atm so i honestly dont know
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Originally Posted by _Krom_
Is the bug still in oil slick where the pets will go running away? Reason I ask is the demons is a very melee oriented set and with TA..that could be problematic.
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I'm waiting for Going Rogue to roll a Demon/Dark in Praetoria.
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I personally don't consider Leadership *or* Provoke to be essential MM powers. I have over a dozen Masterminds, and I believe one of them actually has Leadership. (And that one only has it because it actually fits the concept.) Of course, I utterly despise Speed Boost, have no respect for Hasten, and I don't have a single character with any of the Toughness powers at all. I only take Fitness because endurance recovery is stupidly slow without it.
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Originally Posted by Doc_Reverend
With Issue 17 going live right now, I'm sure the Rogue Isles are about to be ground zero for demonic hellbeasts bursting out of the ground. Going to ruin property values.
So how are you going to make your Demon Summoner? What secondaries are you going with? Got plots for the build? Right now I'm planning on doing Demons/Storm. I've got Storms on my controller and love it, and it's a more active secondary than the other more buff centered sets. My only problem is what to take! Storms is such a lovely bag of tricks, I can't figure out what to drop from either set. Here's what I'm trying to do: I'd really like to squeeze in some of the Demon Summoning whip attacks, probably at least Lash and Crack Whip (go go Masterblapper :P). Since this is Masterminds, that means Leadership pool of course. Fitness, obviously. And a travel power. I'd LIKE to fit in an epic for concept reasons, but that's not a total dealbreaker. What are your plans or suggestions on the set? |
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Originally Posted by ShadowsBetween
Speed Boost ... because endurance recovery is stupidly slow without it.
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Demon.Poison, ti fit the theme of the character. I've not played a Mastermind in a very long time.. does uhh.. anyone know why I don't have a window showing the status OF my pets?
Edit: Never mind, it mysteriously appeared
I had a DS/thermal on test and it was fun, but a little too buffbotty for me. DS/storm...ooh, now that has possibilities!
Now to come up with a good concept/name...
I cant seem to make my mind up. I just deleted a level 6 DS/DM as i don't fancy levelling another toon with that set again, that and half the folks who would have made the new MM's today would have went dark.
I'm thinking thermal as it fits thematically, but again, every man and their dog is going to have gone that route. Decisions decisions
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No, they just wont enter the oil slick usually.
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Originally Posted by _Krom_
Is the bug still in oil slick where the pets will go running away? Reason I ask is the demons is a very melee oriented set and with TA..that could be problematic.
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Im sitting here in the same situation.I havent even bothered to make 1 yet,because im going crazy trying to figure what to pair it with.
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Originally Posted by Scotsmania
I cant seem to make my mind up. I just deleted a level 6 DS/DM as i don't fancy levelling another toon with that set again, that and half the folks who would have made the new MM's today would have went dark.
I'm thinking thermal as it fits thematically, but again, every man and their dog is going to have gone that route. Decisions decisions |
Demon/Traps and Demon/Dark.
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Waiting for GR to roll the Demon/Poison
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Originally Posted by Murdok
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Demon Summoning isnt a selectable power choice for me...the text is there but its not highlighted to be selectable...
??? am i missing something? i even tried choosing all the different origins but still doesn't matter.
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Have you pre-purchased Going Rogue? If not, it won't be available until you either pre-purchase, or until Going Rogue launches and you purchase it. Either way, you won't be able to use Demon Summoning unless you have purchased Going Rogue.
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Originally Posted by Avlorik
Demon Summoning isnt a selectable power choice for me...the text is there but its not highlighted to be selectable...
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lol oh yeah DUH ME! i forgot about that part of pre-ordering...*hides in embarrassment*
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Originally Posted by FreckledAvenger
Have you pre-purchased Going Rogue? If not, it won't be available until you either pre-purchase, or until Going Rogue launches and you purchase it. Either way, you won't be able to use Demon Summoning unless you have purchased Going Rogue.
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Nocturbo dark/kin corr
Thermonuk fire/rad corr
Forrest Phyre spines/fire scrap
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Wrong. I hate Speed Boost, to the point that I have actually kicked /kins off teams when I've been the leader, and quit otherwise. I will *not* remain on a team with a /kin who insists on Speed Boosting everyone. As far as I'm concerned, any recovery it may or may not provide is irrelevant.
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Originally Posted by Psara
That way!
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With Issue 17 going live right now, I'm sure the Rogue Isles are about to be ground zero for demonic hellbeasts bursting out of the ground. Going to ruin property values.
So how are you going to make your Demon Summoner? What secondaries are you going with? Got plots for the build?
Right now I'm planning on doing Demons/Storm. I've got Storms on my controller and love it, and it's a more active secondary than the other more buff centered sets. My only problem is what to take! Storms is such a lovely bag of tricks, I can't figure out what to drop from either set.
Here's what I'm trying to do:
I'd really like to squeeze in some of the Demon Summoning whip attacks, probably at least Lash and Crack Whip (go go Masterblapper :P). Since this is Masterminds, that means Leadership pool of course. Fitness, obviously. And a travel power. I'd LIKE to fit in an epic for concept reasons, but that's not a total dealbreaker.
What are your plans or suggestions on the set?
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