D6 Taunter limitation proposal
By
black_barrier,
Posted on: 2010-04-09 08:27 in Everything about PvP
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Well while I understand that its frustrating going against lineups like that comparing it to cages isn't even close to a fair comparison. There is no evading a cage, no inspiration you can pop and no power you can add to your sets to give you any resistance to it. When you are caged you are just caged.|
Originally Posted by Mirage_Mage
The difference being teams werent brigning almost a full team of cagers
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Taunt however is not that hard to break. Yeah new pvpr's might not know how to but that is part of the reason behind this whole league is to teach them things like that.
Just like they need to learn how to play on a standard jump team they also need to learn how to play and evade on every type of lineup. Taunters, Ta's, Colds, Therms....etc.
There are counter lineups to taunters that work. Proven by the matches. If anything I would say if you think a team might run a crazy lineup then just come up with lineups to counter anything possible.
If Dex actually does file for this motion we will vote with whatever our team votes. However the spirit of d6 was to be relaxed and let these new guys learn to pvp on whatever they have. Our team didn't go and pl our d6 team a bunch of psi/em''s. Lots of our guys have nothing but tanks, brutes and scrappers. That is reasonable to expect from new pvpr's.
HAHAHAHAHA!!!
ROLMAO!!!
OK
I'm going to let my account expire until after Going Rogue...so that I have all 14 ATs ready on the blueside.
Then, after Going Rogue, once they improve PvP, I'll re-up my subscription.
But I'll not re-up my subscription until they actually fix PvP, not even for Going Rogue, because at this point, after having to listen to the endless stream of utter BS the PvP Circle Jerk Board Trolls have been spewing all this time, I ain't paying any more dough to listen to a semi-intelligent noob with an overdeveloped sense of entitlement to state an opinion like its gospel and to expect that other players defer to their preachings.
Besides the only reason I renewed for a month was to make sure that Dee'ceed, Ultimate Opportunist, Keep Crying, Cry More, Meat Monster, Michael, Carnage54, lawljik, etc. exactly what I think of not only their playstyle, not only their toon's build, not only their toon's name, but exactly what I thought of them as players pertaining to the non-PvP parts of the game in both the spirit of the game, the spirit of being social in the game, and the aspect of actually having something to say beside lol/jk/whut/lawlz/o.O
So you psi/em/shark/taunt/stalker/spike/cage/gank/tp foe/fotm players can have fun debating with utter geekiness about how great stalkers are until your blue in the face.
But I'm not going to pay any more cash for your PvP IO farming HAHAHAHAHA.
I play my guys, yes they die a lot. But that is part of PvP none of you noobs understood: I never, ever built my guys to live, I always built my toons to do their particular schtick in combat. With the 7 builds around me, built for teaming, my builds always do well. So well in fact that the big talkers log off. But the price I pay for that 15 minutes of pure PWNage is getting ganked over and over by sharks and nemesis staff because I skipped hybernate and phase shift. But don't sit there an act like your good just because you throw some fish and a temp power around or have your own little pvp universe in the arena.
I used to play with the best Regen Scrapper build I have ever seen, and no one in the game right now, on any scrapper, was better than Test Model 2. The best scrapper in the game was on Freedom.
I used to play with the best Tanker in the Game, Deed. Tankers, since Deed left, have been a shallow resemblance of tanking skills in this game. The best tanker in the game was also on Freedom.
Yes, I know there is that one guy on Infinity that is the best brute player in the game...I never played with him, but I'm sure he's awesome brutishness.
Yes, I know there is that one guy on Justice/Triumph/Victory/Liberty/etc. who the best at certain builds or archetypes...good luck to you folks.
My specialty is Rad/Rad Defenders.
I played over 125 levels of Rad/Rad Defenders.
I played rad/rad with heal and without.
I played rad/rad with hasten and without.
I played rad/rad with taunt and without.
I played rad/rad with choking cloud and without.
I played rad/rad with the fear pool and without.
I played rad/rad with leadership and without.
I played rad/rad with thunderstrike epic and total focus epic.
I played rad/rad with electron haze, neutron bomb, atomic blast, and irradiate, and without.
I played rad/rad with all 3 debuffs and tanked Arbiter Sands with no debuffs at all.
I played rad/rad with SO, IOs, and Purples.'
I played a rad/rad defender during the entire time arch villains we under the dreaded 'purple patch' and beat every single one.
I've beaten every TF, AV, GM and Hami on the blueside with my rad/rad, multiple times over.
I've killed a lot of stalkers with my rad/rad.
And from all the years of playing I can say one thing:
Divine may have 'invented' the rad/rad corruptor according to Divine, but I am The Rad.
Ain't no other rad in PvP can even touch my build.
My rad/rad defender PWNs everything.
When the crap hits the fan, and the team needs a rad, they call ME, they don't ask Divine...and they sure don't ask Conflict or Barrier and they sure don't invite Dee'ceed. They invite ME. There isn't anyone in the game that can outrad me. You're dreaming.
So I will now retire from COH knowing that when it comes to Rad/Rad, my game's complete.
Any other build, meh, they ain't my specialty, they are YOU'RE specialty. Oh yeah, just so you all know...NO, you CANNOT have ANY of my stuff. I would delete every IO/Hammio/Rare Salvage/Money/Purple IO before I ever give them away. And I'll demotape it and put it on Youtube...the 100 BILLION LEWT DELETION.
Freedom is entirely filled with 50's, each one has at least 1 billion average of influence spent on them.
Because now, I've decided I'm going to work on my Orbital Cannon/Force Cascade/Heat Wave/Force Eruption/Snowstorm/Lightning Arc Build.
And, btw, one final thing. Yes, PvP in COH is pathetic. And the only thing more pathetic is the amount of typing players will post, and none of it intelligent (looks at Barrier).
I'm done.
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Oh my. I haven't laughed that hard in... well... ever.
Thank you, sir.
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Epic post LOLS. And get it right, it was an Ice/SS tanker, not a brute k |
Originally Posted by Galactor
...Yes, I know there is that one guy on Infinity that is the best brute player in the game...I never played with him, but I'm sure he's awesome brutishness... I'm done. |
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From h0j:|
Originally Posted by Galactor
HAHAHAHAHA!!!
ROLMAO!!! OK I'm going to let my account expire until after Going Rogue...so that I have all 14 ATs ready on the blueside. Then, after Going Rogue, once they improve PvP, I'll re-up my subscription. But I'll not re-up my subscription until they actually fix PvP, not even for Going Rogue, because at this point, after having to listen to the endless stream of utter BS the PvP Circle Jerk Board Trolls have been spewing all this time, I ain't paying any more dough to listen to a semi-intelligent noob with an overdeveloped sense of entitlement to state an opinion like its gospel and to expect that other players defer to their preachings. Besides the only reason I renewed for a month was to make sure that Dee'ceed, Ultimate Opportunist, Keep Crying, Cry More, Meat Monster, Michael, Carnage54, lawljik, etc. exactly what I think of not only their playstyle, not only their toon's build, not only their toon's name, but exactly what I thought of them as players pertaining to the non-PvP parts of the game in both the spirit of the game, the spirit of being social in the game, and the aspect of actually having something to say beside lol/jk/whut/lawlz/o.O So you psi/em/shark/taunt/stalker/spike/cage/gank/tp foe/fotm players can have fun debating with utter geekiness about how great stalkers are until your blue in the face. But I'm not going to pay any more cash for your PvP IO farming HAHAHAHAHA. I play my guys, yes they die a lot. But that is part of PvP none of you noobs understood: I never, ever built my guys to live, I always built my toons to do their particular schtick in combat. With the 7 builds around me, built for teaming, my builds always do well. So well in fact that the big talkers log off. But the price I pay for that 15 minutes of pure PWNage is getting ganked over and over by sharks and nemesis staff because I skipped hybernate and phase shift. But don't sit there an act like your good just because you throw some fish and a temp power around or have your own little pvp universe in the arena. I used to play with the best Regen Scrapper build I have ever seen, and no one in the game right now, on any scrapper, was better than Test Model 2. The best scrapper in the game was on Freedom. I used to play with the best Tanker in the Game, Deed. Tankers, since Deed left, have been a shallow resemblance of tanking skills in this game. The best tanker in the game was also on Freedom. Yes, I know there is that one guy on Infinity that is the best brute player in the game...I never played with him, but I'm sure he's awesome brutishness. Yes, I know there is that one guy on Justice/Triumph/Victory/Liberty/etc. who the best at certain builds or archetypes...good luck to you folks. My specialty is Rad/Rad Defenders. I played over 125 levels of Rad/Rad Defenders. I played rad/rad with heal and without. I played rad/rad with hasten and without. I played rad/rad with taunt and without. I played rad/rad with choking cloud and without. I played rad/rad with the fear pool and without. I played rad/rad with leadership and without. I played rad/rad with thunderstrike epic and total focus epic. I played rad/rad with electron haze, neutron bomb, atomic blast, and irradiate, and without. I played rad/rad with all 3 debuffs and tanked Arbiter Sands with no debuffs at all. I played rad/rad with SO, IOs, and Purples.' I played a rad/rad defender during the entire time arch villains we under the dreaded 'purple patch' and beat every single one. I've beaten every TF, AV, GM and Hami on the blueside with my rad/rad, multiple times over. I've killed a lot of stalkers with my rad/rad. And from all the years of playing I can say one thing: Divine may have 'invented' the rad/rad corruptor according to Divine, but I am The Rad. Ain't no other rad in PvP can even touch my build. My rad/rad defender PWNs everything. When the crap hits the fan, and the team needs a rad, they call ME, they don't ask Divine...and they sure don't ask Conflict or Barrier and they sure don't invite Dee'ceed. They invite ME. There isn't anyone in the game that can outrad me. You're dreaming. So I will now retire from COH knowing that when it comes to Rad/Rad, my game's complete. Any other build, meh, they ain't my specialty, they are YOU'RE specialty. Oh yeah, just so you all know...NO, you CANNOT have ANY of my stuff. I would delete every IO/Hammio/Rare Salvage/Money/Purple IO before I ever give them away. And I'll demotape it and put it on Youtube...the 100 BILLION LEWT DELETION. Freedom is entirely filled with 50's, each one has at least 1 billion average of influence spent on them. Because now, I've decided I'm going to work on my Orbital Cannon/Force Cascade/Heat Wave/Force Eruption/Snowstorm/Lightning Arc Build. And, btw, one final thing. Yes, PvP in COH is pathetic. And the only thing more pathetic is the amount of typing players will post, and none of it intelligent (looks at Barrier). I'm done. |
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Originally Posted by Galactor
HAHAHAHAHA!!!
ROLMAO!!! OK I'm going to let my account expire until after Going Rogue...so that I have all 14 ATs ready on the blueside. Then, after Going Rogue, once they improve PvP, I'll re-up my subscription. But I'll not re-up my subscription until they actually fix PvP, not even for Going Rogue, because at this point, after having to listen to the endless stream of utter BS the PvP Circle Jerk Board Trolls have been spewing all this time, I ain't paying any more dough to listen to a semi-intelligent noob with an overdeveloped sense of entitlement to state an opinion like its gospel and to expect that other players defer to their preachings. Besides the only reason I renewed for a month was to make sure that Dee'ceed, Ultimate Opportunist, Keep Crying, Cry More, Meat Monster, Michael, Carnage54, lawljik, etc. exactly what I think of not only their playstyle, not only their toon's build, not only their toon's name, but exactly what I thought of them as players pertaining to the non-PvP parts of the game in both the spirit of the game, the spirit of being social in the game, and the aspect of actually having something to say beside lol/jk/whut/lawlz/o.O So you psi/em/shark/taunt/stalker/spike/cage/gank/tp foe/fotm players can have fun debating with utter geekiness about how great stalkers are until your blue in the face. But I'm not going to pay any more cash for your PvP IO farming HAHAHAHAHA. I play my guys, yes they die a lot. But that is part of PvP none of you noobs understood: I never, ever built my guys to live, I always built my toons to do their particular schtick in combat. With the 7 builds around me, built for teaming, my builds always do well. So well in fact that the big talkers log off. But the price I pay for that 15 minutes of pure PWNage is getting ganked over and over by sharks and nemesis staff because I skipped hybernate and phase shift. But don't sit there an act like your good just because you throw some fish and a temp power around or have your own little pvp universe in the arena. I used to play with the best Regen Scrapper build I have ever seen, and no one in the game right now, on any scrapper, was better than Test Model 2. The best scrapper in the game was on Freedom. I used to play with the best Tanker in the Game, Deed. Tankers, since Deed left, have been a shallow resemblance of tanking skills in this game. The best tanker in the game was also on Freedom. Yes, I know there is that one guy on Infinity that is the best brute player in the game...I never played with him, but I'm sure he's awesome brutishness. Yes, I know there is that one guy on Justice/Triumph/Victory/Liberty/etc. who the best at certain builds or archetypes...good luck to you folks. My specialty is Rad/Rad Defenders. I played over 125 levels of Rad/Rad Defenders. I played rad/rad with heal and without. I played rad/rad with hasten and without. I played rad/rad with taunt and without. I played rad/rad with choking cloud and without. I played rad/rad with the fear pool and without. I played rad/rad with leadership and without. I played rad/rad with thunderstrike epic and total focus epic. I played rad/rad with electron haze, neutron bomb, atomic blast, and irradiate, and without. I played rad/rad with all 3 debuffs and tanked Arbiter Sands with no debuffs at all. I played rad/rad with SO, IOs, and Purples.' I played a rad/rad defender during the entire time arch villains we under the dreaded 'purple patch' and beat every single one. I've beaten every TF, AV, GM and Hami on the blueside with my rad/rad, multiple times over. I've killed a lot of stalkers with my rad/rad. And from all the years of playing I can say one thing: Divine may have 'invented' the rad/rad corruptor according to Divine, but I am The Rad. Ain't no other rad in PvP can even touch my build. My rad/rad defender PWNs everything. When the crap hits the fan, and the team needs a rad, they call ME, they don't ask Divine...and they sure don't ask Conflict or Barrier and they sure don't invite Dee'ceed. They invite ME. There isn't anyone in the game that can outrad me. You're dreaming. So I will now retire from COH knowing that when it comes to Rad/Rad, my game's complete. Any other build, meh, they ain't my specialty, they are YOU'RE specialty. Oh yeah, just so you all know...NO, you CANNOT have ANY of my stuff. I would delete every IO/Hammio/Rare Salvage/Money/Purple IO before I ever give them away. And I'll demotape it and put it on Youtube...the 100 BILLION LEWT DELETION. Freedom is entirely filled with 50's, each one has at least 1 billion average of influence spent on them. Because now, I've decided I'm going to work on my Orbital Cannon/Force Cascade/Heat Wave/Force Eruption/Snowstorm/Lightning Arc Build. And, btw, one final thing. Yes, PvP in COH is pathetic. And the only thing more pathetic is the amount of typing players will post, and none of it intelligent (looks at Barrier). I'm done. |
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Being an *** doesn't somehow make you right. You are the only person on your d8 team that cannot effectively break taunt. Dex, Vex etc have been bragging for weeks about how easy it is and how ineffective taunt bots really are. They learned how to do it, so can d6, so can you.|
Originally Posted by IcyKiri
1) There are maps that are bugged that you cant break taunt.
2) Taunt is autohit, cage is not. 3) A competent WASD'r (re: not you) can easily keep someone perma taunted to the point they cant break it for more then a few seconds. 4) Taunt does not properly supress like it should. -Kiri |
Being I am a noob which maps are bugged that you cannot break taunt? Is there a post saying taunt is supposed to suppress and it is not working as intended? If it is bugged it is a bannable power. Link please?
Kiri,
You are right to call taunt teams lame and you'll get no argument from me about that, but they are a valuable resource to grab a tie when the only other option is a loss.
It would also be lame for the top team in the league to limit the number of taunters because it's a crap lineup.
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Says the guy with the longest post in this thread...
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Originally Posted by Galactor
...And, btw, one final thing. Yes, PvP in COH is pathetic. And the only thing more pathetic is the amount of typing players will post, and none of it intelligent (looks at Barrier). I'm done.
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Yeah, my Ice/SS was pretty beastly >.>
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Originally Posted by Johnnykat
Epic post LOLS. And get it right, it was an Ice/SS tanker, not a brute k
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Infinity and Victory mostly
dUmb, etc.
lolz PvP anymore, Market PvP for fun and profit
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So you get farmed but are awesome for 15 minutes a day, what?
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Originally Posted by Galactor
I play my guys, yes they die a lot. But that is part of PvP none of you noobs understood: I never, ever built my guys to live, I always built my toons to do their particular schtick in combat. With the 7 builds around me, built for teaming, my builds always do well. So well in fact that the big talkers log off. But the price I pay for that 15 minutes of pure PWNage is getting ganked over and over by sharks and nemesis staff because I skipped hybernate and phase shift. But don't sit there an act like your good just because you throw some fish and a temp power around or have your own little pvp universe in the arena.
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Infinity and Victory mostly
dUmb, etc.
lolz PvP anymore, Market PvP for fun and profit
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Tech lab is not broken. |
Originally Posted by Borderline Boss
Tech lab I believe and as much as he is bad he is right, taunters r bad.
Dex is bad and dies a lot, vex is a drunk, and they both need jobs. And I have the link you're looking for. http://www.ballyfitness.com/ |
Ty for the link but I already belong, they host my VB league.
BTW Hai thar Hot! What week is it that we fight your team again?
Kat plays in a Visual Basic league?
Infinity and Victory mostly
dUmb, etc.
lolz PvP anymore, Market PvP for fun and profit
Volley Ball.
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Epic post LOLS. And get it right, it was an Ice/SS tanker, not a brute k
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Yeah, my Ice/SS was pretty beastly >.> |
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Originally Posted by CriticalKat
Tech lab is not broken.
Ty for the link but I already belong, they host my VB league. BTW Hai thar Hot! What week is it that we fight your team again? |
I don't know, but when I played on tech lab vs. dUmbs bad brutes I couldn't break taunt by running around the thing so something was up.
And if you're referring to me quitting the leagues weeks ago, CHS will fight you anytime, and if you couldn't beat POWT lol gl beating us.
http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/6685529/3-hot-and-vex-3
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srsly let it go Jalocity.
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Originally Posted by IcyKiri
Now that U2BG ran off the Renegades, I think we are safe to assume no one is going to bring scrappers to matches anymore.
-Kiri |
You can break taunt on Tech Lab, it's where I tested taunt mechanics.
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That's Well, we used to roll WB and RV back before i13, fun times.
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Originally Posted by The_Masque
Frozen Caveman, that is all.
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Infinity and Victory mostly
dUmb, etc.
lolz PvP anymore, Market PvP for fun and profit
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We could break taunt on lab last night. n00bing it up and worrying about stalkers rather than staying offensive, that's a different issue.
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Originally Posted by perilX
You can break taunt on Tech Lab, it's where I tested taunt mechanics.
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Infinity and Victory mostly
dUmb, etc.
lolz PvP anymore, Market PvP for fun and profit
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To my knowledge he was only one of two people to beat Jimmy Vine's mind/storm Roz in a duel as well.
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Originally Posted by Slax
That's Well, we used to roll WB and RV back before i13, fun times.
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You can break taunt on any map. While its annoying and while the team won't get to trow as many spikes and needs to stay level headed to time breaking the LOS and getting on target. It can be done. As terribad as I am I know how to LOS taunt so not sure why all the qq tbh.
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Originally Posted by Slax
We could break taunt on lab last night. n00bing it up and worrying about stalkers rather than staying offensive, that's a different issue.
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Cos playing for a tie is yucky........allegedly.....
QQ!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ever since I joined the Renegades the only lineup switch we've ever done was change Max from a regen stalker to an EA stalker. Not as big a deal as mixing up a tank and brute...
As for running off "team Renegades" I didn't know that 3 people in the former group made this new team the new Renegades. If that were the case, can we call other teams the new JAL, Velocity, UJL, GMW, etc and laugh about the jokes they all were too?
Getting back on topic... limiting lineups is always a bad idea. It's bad enough that i13+ did most of that for you, no need to add to it.
@Intro lolPvP