Redside purples

I have a question for those people who keep in touch with the trending of purple prices redside. Are the prices still inflated from 2XP or have they settled back to their normal range by now?

I ask because I saved up a billion inf to buy a set of ranged purples, went to bid on them, and based on the last 5 sales it looks like I need closer to 2 billion, maybe more, and that's if I'm patient and lowball.

I usually only use the mez purples since they're relatively cheap and within my range given my lazy marketeering. I knew the purples for attacks went for more, but wow. I'm hoping the prices will drop in coming weeks. If not I'll either have to become a lot more hardcore in my marketeering or just write those purples off as non-options for me.

I'm starting to think I should shift my focus to inf building blueside and just wait for GR to buy my purples over there.

I don't think prices will be coming down significantly in the near future.

I put 5 bids at 200 million each for 5 pieces of Hecatomb. I left those bids on the market for over two weeks.

None were purchased. I'm a convert. Redside market is a colossal failure. I will be forced to farm like mad in order to afford rebuilding my main villain in a way that will suit me. At current rates, I'm looking at a 10 billion inf build.

I bought something purple for 501 million and sold it [crafted] for 800 million last week.

Very recently, there was a huge exploit where MM pets weren't exemping down in AE missions and people were generating ... many... billions of infamy. (This exploit also led to "Level 50 in 50 minutes" PL-selling, apparently. Maybe faster than that. ) They shut it down just before 2XP.

It takes 6 times through the market to get rid of HALF of that infamy. Prices aren't going to go down terribly fast. I'm burning inf as fast as I can, mon ami.

These prices did not come from 2XP, and they did not come from any AE exploit. It comes from the very nature of the market itself, and that gremlin of all MMO economies, mudflation. It's exacerbated redside due to the general lack of supply of nearly everything. Post GR, and the red flight, look for things to be far worse.

The good news is it's going to be easier to get something one character generates to another of your characters that can use it. But, this too may harm the market as things get emailed rather than liquidated on the market.

It's going to be interesting to see the rumored dev fixes for the market.

WARNING: I bold names.

Thanks for the replies. Looks like I'll be removing those purples from any of my planned builds.

Daemodand: I agree with Deus Otiosus (I know, it's an unlikely statement from me.) I've heard of one person running multiple Masterminds to the inf cap. I think it was four MM's. So that's eight billion inf. There hasn't been a sploitfest like this one in a very long time, if ever.

Everyone I know who runs a currency exchange has stopped because we're out of blue inf. It used to sort of go in waves- I'd be up a couple billion redside, or a couple billion blueside- now EVERYONE HAS REDSIDE INF AND WANTS BLUE.

I'm not saying that the redside market would, otherwise, work as well as blue. I'm saying that right now, there is a flood of redside inf. It is real, there are specific reasons for it and it has distorted, and is distorting, the market.

I was pretty flush, red-side, before the MM exploit--just a timing thing. But when the sploit hit, everything I had left dried up. I'm not sure I could scrape together 500M blue-side, across every character. We'll find out when I17 hits.

As for the purps, I think they were originally undervalued, for whatever reason. But yeah, between the "natural" purple price adjustment, the horribleness of the red markets, and the MM exploit...now is the time to sell, not buy.

If this exploit has upped the amount of inf on redside, I wonder how the Devs look at it. As I understand things, don't they consider the lack of total inf redside compared to blue to be "bad"?

Well, I understand it is concentrated, but does anyone have an idea of how detailed their data mining tools are? Other than Arcanaville maybe. I mean, can they look at how much was concentrated in the top 1% of accounts, or just total per side and average per active account?

I also have no idea how they would look on suddenly having the same amount of inf redside as blueside. I would love to be a fly on the wall during those conversations though =)

Not that I'm saying I think this exploit was that effective, I'm just thinking outloud.

Idle conversation today produced this factoid: if 0.1% of the playerbase made one inf-capped mastermind each, that's another 200 billion entering the system.

Which of course gets spent ten times before it goes away.

Come all ye marketeers, do what you can.

You could, but it would take a mastermind AND teammate [s]. I guess what I'm saying is that a lot of people, a lot of the time, are going to solo for whatever reason, and that's all redside inf.

And 1/3 of the people you meet in the RWZ AE are going to be villains.

So infamy came naturally from this and you had to work to get influence out of it.

... some purple prices are slowly starting to come down, looks like. May reverse in a hurry this weekend.

In my opinion I suspected purples began to fall in price prior to the series of exploits, and the problem now is that with all this ridiculous influence/infamy around people are happy to pay in my opinion what is absurd prices. And it's one big loop, it's going to be a while for it to dwindle.

Especially when Tom, Dick and Harry all have capped infamy/influence on their hands and don't know anything.

Fury