What do you think when you see this line?
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Posted on: 2010-04-04 09:31 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
option B for me.
Doesn't the ITF scale like Trials? I recall that a lot of low-40s ITFs were being run for while. Although, I got the impression that it was mostly due to the shunned lowbies that couldn't get on the level 50 ITFs. Like the 50s were thinking the lowbies just wanted to get powerleveled.
Edit, this was prior to supersidekicking.
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Option B.
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Generally B, though TBH, a level 36 is going to have a hard time contributing. I would send a tell and ASK if lvl 36 is okay. Even if everyone is SSK'd to 50, everyone (but the leader) being low-level will spell disaster. After all, lvl 50 versions of foes are balanced around you having 24 powers and 67 additional slots. Not to say it couldn't be done, but still, a random PuG may not be the best palce to test that theory.
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This is what I see when it is posted.
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Originally Posted by Jophiel
(B) This TF will be led by a lvl 50 so if you're level 36 you'll be raised up and if you're lvl 50, you don't have to worry about being de-leveled to 40 or something.
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If I wanted to play the ITF, I'd be hoping for B - as I normally try to knock off the ITF soon after I hit 35, and I rarely run it again.
But I'd assume they're recruiting only level 50s, because that seems to be a prevalent bias with many ITF teams.
So my normal pattern is to inquire. 
I would assume A.
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Generally when I see option A, it's advertised as Level 50 only ITF, and they stress the fact that it's level 50s only. So that sentence by itself I would assume as Option B.
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Originally Posted by EmperorSteele
Generally B, though TBH, a level 36 is going to have a hard time contributing. I would send a tell and ASK if lvl 36 is okay. Even if everyone is SSK'd to 50, everyone (but the leader) being low-level will spell disaster. After all, lvl 50 versions of foes are balanced around you having 24 powers and 67 additional slots. Not to say it couldn't be done, but still, a random PuG may not be the best palce to test that theory.
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It's my general practice to try and be on the upper end of the level range in any group, so I would only respond to this on a 50, regardless of what was actually meant.
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I generally think B. Like others, I notice people sometimes specify "50s only" or "50s preferred". I prefer when people are really explicit about accepting lower levels (usually something like "L50 ITF, any 35+ welcome").
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Prior to SSK, I would say option A. These days it's a bit more nebulous, but I would still tend toward A.
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This. Generally a level 50 ITF with a few lower levels will be fine. However if an ITF has mostly lower levels then trying to run at level 50 is a bad idea, things generally go smoother if you select a lower level leader so that fewer of the team are SK'd up. In any case I'd definitely tell the leader my level when I asked for an invite.
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Originally Posted by EmperorSteele
Generally B, though TBH, a level 36 is going to have a hard time contributing. I would send a tell and ASK if lvl 36 is okay. Even if everyone is SSK'd to 50, everyone (but the leader) being low-level will spell disaster. After all, lvl 50 versions of foes are balanced around you having 24 powers and 67 additional slots. Not to say it couldn't be done, but still, a random PuG may not be the best palce to test that theory.
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A, if the leader is 50 and didn't mind lower levels there wouldn't be a need to specify 50.
Option A for me
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Originally Posted by Crimson Vanquisher
A, if the leader is 50 and didn't mind lower levels there wouldn't be a need to specify 50.
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Yeah, but you wouldn't necessarily know they were 50. I'd say the more likely is that they mention 50 so that the higher level folks will know they won't lose any powers and such as they were if it were a level 40 run, for instance.
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I have sort of given up even trying to determine exactly what that post means because it varies from team leader to team leader. With most I'd say it's B but I have seen some leaders that become outraged if a lowly 36 or so level player joins the team. Best example I have, and somewhat funny, was on a Rikti Mothership raid. I showed up in zone and advertised "44 Level MA/Regen Scrapper Looking for Mothership Raid team." Seconds later I got an invite and headed to the assembly point. Next thing I get is a tell from the SAME guy that just invited me.. "Hey you're only level 44??" Ummm Yeah I broadcast that fact to the entire zone before you sent the invite! DUH
I have even seen team leader broadcast LFM 47 or higher that have AT LEAST have SOs in all slots! That was in PI of course for AV missions and I think, and understand, the guy was tired of 9 levels with training orgin, or no enhancements at all, joining up to powerlevel and bringing absolutely nothing of value to the team except more minions, lieutenants, etc to battle.
On an ITF no one can get into the zone unless they are at least level 35 and in this day and age if a 35 level isn't running with SOs or higher they have some serious issues. Come on.. I have 22 levels with millions in Influence and running a combination of SO and IO enhancements. If your using DOs .. just what the heck are you wasting your influnece on? lol
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Yeah, I guess you have a point there; I don't like losing more than five levels with my 50 tank since its build isn't good at anything lower than 40, it makes flashbacks a chore.
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Originally Posted by DarkEther
Yeah, but you wouldn't necessarily know they were 50. I'd say the more likely is that they mention 50 so that the higher level folks will know they won't lose any powers and such as they were if it were a level 40 run, for instance.
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Well to be fair that is reasonable. Obviously wouldnt count for all, but think its safe to say that the majority of characters that are of that level without any slots have been PL'd or will be more of a nuisance than wanted.
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Oh I agree EU. It's not so bad if the player is in the 40s I mean at that point we are only talking at most 3 or 4 powers less than a 50 level and with the new SSK system all the powers they do have will be at least level 49. But prior to SSK I used to find myself on teams in PI with the "Buddy or SG Mate" that was a 6 level looking to powerlevel. One person like this wasn't so bad but when half the team was Sking the other half .. all very low with almost no attack, etc... It usually meant TEAM WIPE. |
Originally Posted by EU_Damz
Well to be fair that is reasonable. Obviously wouldnt count for all, but think its safe to say that the majority of characters that are of that level without any slots have been PL'd or will be more of a nuisance than wanted.
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The one I really got a kick out of was the guy that wanted only players with IOs. Okay aside from set bonuses, and I generally IO with generics and just skip those, how exactly can you tell if I am using SOs or IOs? I have a 50 level Scrapper that has every slot enhances with a 50 level IO but every one is a pure Damage, Accuracy, Recharge, or whatever enhancement.. not a single set bonus but she shreds maps and takes on EBs solo (they all end up crying after she walks away too). Now if you look at her profile you won't see a single thing that indicates she is IOed and since no one but me can view my slotting exactly how did that team leader expect to confirm his demand for "IOed players only please!" lol
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Totally agree. If the person wanted only lvl 50s they should say Lvl 50 only ITF.
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Originally Posted by DarkEther
Yeah, but you wouldn't necessarily know they were 50. I'd say the more likely is that they mention 50 so that the higher level folks will know they won't lose any powers and such as they were if it were a level 40 run, for instance.
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"Level 50 ITF Looking For More"
Do you think:
(A) This TF is only interested in lvl 50 characters, level 49 and below need not apply
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(B) This TF will be led by a lvl 50 so if you're level 36 you'll be raised up and if you're lvl 50, you don't have to worry about being de-leveled to 40 or something.
I asked this on my server's TF channel a while back and got mixed responses so I thought I'd ask the community at large.