Discussion: More Going Rogue Updates - Demon Summoning

Those have been drooled over down in City Life since Saturday.

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Want Demon Summoning nao!

Ghar! I don't know what i'm doin'.

oh thinks for the idea's i was thinking DS/poison or DS/dark so thanks for some idea's for backgrounds

Same here! Based on the announcement, it made it sound like they actually SHOWED kinetic melee and elec control at PAX...

I'm picturing a combination of punches and kicks with knockback and slow effects for KM. Elec control sounds like it will rehash some existing powers from electricity manipulation and throw in some sap-heavy twists.

Am I off?

They only showed KM's video at PAX and talked about the Elec set. Nothing too special. KM looks like it could be a semi-close ranged telekinetic attack (with a lot of arm-waving and dancey moves, but they said that those might change.)

I think the point of the Demon Summoning and Duel Pistols videos is to be teasers like movie trailers are. Movie trailers shouldn't give you all the information about the movie right away, they should give you enough information to entice your interest in the movie.

In this case, they're giving us a teaser trailer of what the DS set looks like and a brief description of the set (including all the power names and critters you can summon).

I don't think we should except ParagonWiki-level details from these teasers. We'll get all that info when DS is in open beta.

Until there are like 1000 of them running around, including a signature that was a redeemed hero well before Desdemona came along.

There are a number of ways to explain it with a hero, but not enough to support much variety in a MMO population. It's easily the least concept-versatile powerset, other than the epics and maybe zombies, ever in CoH.

This. Champions Online is making the same mistake (but probably worse... basically the whole endgame is magic). Enough with magic! It's flooding the market and a large number of the players in these games are here because they prefer something else.

Why couldn't these be a theme neutral set of monsters, that could be elementals, clones, aliens, constructs, experiments, or whatever? The multi element setup is exactly what I would have wanted in a monsters set. If there will be some kind of customization eventually, it could make a great, versatile set, but instead it will always be tied to this narrow theme, and there will still be no monster summoning set.

I'm sorry to say, Haggard4Life, you have completely missed the point and I am sorry I was not clear enough for you to understand. I'll try to fix that now. Look back at some of the other video trailers, you get clear ideas of what to expect, wings for example, not close in shots that are hard to distinguish. All I want is a decent video and a little info. For instance, it talks about 7 different types of demons and has an identicle power icon to the Gang War power. This leads me to believe the demons are a set summoned type similar to the rest of the MMs, but if Dual Pistols is any indication it may be that we can choose our own types of demons to summon (my personal hope).

My point is that what little bit of information Paragon Studios is giving out leads to little more than speculation and disappointment (see "my personal hope" above). Give us a little more information and we are much less likely to be disappointed in the results.

I did some further searching on the internet last night after pointing out that Champions On-Line has a better organized and written website than CoX (doesn't stop it from sucking as a game though). It seems that out of the 12 other websites I checked out this was true for 9 of them. Other than WoW, the rest were much newer MMO's as well. This tells me that these games are looking to ATTRACT gamers with their websites by giving enough information to really interest you and still not give away the game. That is all I want CoX to so.

Here is my suggestion to the CoX staff: (1) Twice weekly updates on what is going on and what is planned. Mondays and Thursdays would probably be best and allow the Thursday posts to list any fixes made to the games in the weekly maintainance. Trust me, looking stuff up here in the forums is a pain and not at all enjoyable. (2) I would also like to see other portions of the website updated to reflect what has happened in the game AND (3) how about a general powers explanation page? No numbers necessary, just breif explanations. Paragonwiki is all fine and dandy, but it is ugly, unintuitive to use, and has more info than most people need for most cases. All in all I believe these suggestions would PROMOTE the game to people looking at it for the first time and draw in more customers.

Lastly and on a good note. Is anyone else out there a little interested in what Paragon Studios will be doing for their April Fools event this year? Some of the past ones were great. I was in awe (not in a good way) over the "visual sound effects" they did a while back, then did a MAJOR head slap when i realised the date. You go Paragon Studios, that was a great idea.

You're kidding, right? As a comic reader/collector, you shouldn't be surprised. There are TONS of magicks slingers in D.C., Marvel, Image, etc.

Paragon City even has a dept. for magically inclined Heroes, M.A.G.I. All you have to do is ignore all the mages, demons, and the like. I don't know if you're an RP'er or not, so it shouldn't be that hard. And if you are, just let everyone know you're leary of dealing with everything magic. I'm sure they'll get your drift.

Don't bet against it

This. No matter what someone's going to whine. I have'nt seen a single set on this game that someone hasn't whined about.