Discussion: More Going Rogue Updates - Demon Summoning
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Angelxman81,
Posted on: 2010-03-30 10:02 in News, Events and Announcement Discussion
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Originally Posted by Hercules
I'm hoping that if you decide to turn your villain to blue-side ... that the demons turn into something appropriately heroic.
I just can't see a hero using demons... |
I guess it's how you use the power not what it looks like that defines your good/evil balance.
If you are blessed (cursed?) with the ability to summon demons, then that's what you get to do. But once you've summoned them... well what do you with them? It can make for some very interesting dramatic RP.
Note to those who have critiqued the magical side: Althought many have already demonstrated the rich comicbook legacy of magic use in the superhero genre, there's nothing to say that your demons must actually be magical. They could be hard light holograms, or extra-scary robots or mutant outcasts you've taken under your wing or....
From my PoV I just think the whole thing looks [expletive deleted] [expletive deleted] [expletive deleted]cool
Thelonious Monk
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Agreed x1000! Devs, please, if you're listening, more non-magic stuff! (I'm hoping the devs have gotten "the magic itch" out of their systems now once i17 is finished.)|
Originally Posted by ChaosExMachina
This. Champions Online is making the same mistake (but probably worse... basically the whole endgame is magic). Enough with magic! It's flooding the market and a large number of the players in these games are here because they prefer something else.
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| Why couldn't these be a theme neutral set of monsters, that could be elementals, clones, aliens, constructs, experiments, or whatever? The multi element setup is exactly what I would have wanted in a monsters set. If there will be some kind of customization eventually, it could make a great, versatile set, but instead it will always be tied to this narrow theme, and there will still be no monster summoning set. |
TargetOne
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Unlikely. Still have Cimerora, Midnighters, Rularuu and Banished Pantheon to expand on. Possibly even Dr. Aeons PTS system. Then there's Incarnates.
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Originally Posted by TargetOne
Agreed x1000! Devs, please, if you're listening, more non-magic stuff! (I'm hoping the devs have gotten "the magic itch" out of their systems now once i17 is finished.)
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I think there are plenty of reason demons could be used for heroics. Hellboy is a hero, and pretty good at being a demon (well, half of one). I hope the people that use demons on hero side have some pretty good backstories to help it make sense, though. A great back story is the all the difference between a good toon and a great one.
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Originally Posted by Hercules
I just can't see a hero using demons...
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Personally I can see this new set as having something Other than magical basis. Who is to say that these 'Demons' are not actually some home grown geneticly created monsters, or maybe some form of andriod.
Its all in how you design the characters background story.
There are plenty of non magical Heros out there in comics books that use a magical theme to their names or powers. (Scarlet Witch as an example: Mutant who uses magical theme.)
I am surprised at the number of people who over look this simple thought.
Indeed I went with Natural for my Demons. Oh Shadow Prism are you a Ronin Warriors fan?
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Originally Posted by Shadow_Prism
Personally I can see this new set as having something Other than magical basis. Who is to say that these 'Demons' are not actually some home grown geneticly created monsters, or maybe some form of andriod.
Its all in how you design the characters background story. There are plenty of non magical Heros out there in comics books that use a magical theme to their names or powers. (Scarlet Witch as an example: Mutant who uses magical theme.) I am surprised at the number of people who over look this simple thought. |
Any one know when the demon summoning is going to go live?
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Is anyone else worried that the "demon Summoning" power set will lead to an increase in satanism much like "Dungeons and Dragons" did in the late-70s/early-80s?|
Originally Posted by Avatea
Watch the new Demon Summoning video, highlighting one of the newest power sets included with City of Heroes Going Rogue. Did we say "...one of the newest power sets?" Visit the City of Heroes Going Rogue website to find out the exciting new information just revealed!
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And what about the whip? Might this lead to sadomasochistic behavior among the world's youth much like the Indiana Jones movies did in the 80's?
It all serves to remind me of the old axiom, "those who ignore the lessons of the past are doomed to repeat it."
Thirdly, is it still April 1st?
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Man that takes me back. I use to play Dungeons and Dragons and Magic the Gathering and my mom would WIG OUT! I loved it :P. You wershipin' dem demons ain't cha?!?!
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Originally Posted by Oxmyx
Is anyone else worried that the "demon Summoning" power set will lead to an increase in satanism much like "Dungeons and Dragons" did in the late-70s/early-80s?
And what about the whip? Might this lead to sadomasochistic behavior among the world's youth much like the Indiana Jones movies did in the 80's? It all serves to remind me of the old axiom, "those who ignore the lessons of the past are doomed to repeat it." Thirdly, is it still April 1st? |
The world shouldnt have to censor itself for the kids. That's what parents are for. I am a parent and i will be teaching my daughter what fantasy and make-believe are so she doesnt confuse them with real life like i've seen so many kids do.
I don't really understand why people are whining about demons being magical. I'm not a religious person, but I do know that the angels and demons religion talks about are not magical. Or is it just the disbelief that people have for religion that puts demons in the magical area? Either way I like them. Finally something more interesting for MMs.
On a side note.. the website did say April for demons to become available and that was posted before april 1st.. so shouldnt they be here now or am I missing something?
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Please remember that there are 29 more days available to April than just the first, all of which would be considered to be "in April".|
Originally Posted by GothicRose
On a side note.. the website did say April for demons to become available and that was posted before april 1st.. so shouldnt they be here now or am I missing something?
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Originally Posted by oxmyx
and what about the whip? Might this lead to sadomasochistic behavior among the world's youth much like the indiana jones movies did in the 80's?
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Apparently, I play "City of Shakespeare"
*Arc #95278-Gathering the Four Winds -3 step arc; challenging - 5 Ratings/3 Stars (still working out the kinks)
*Arc #177826-Lights, Camera, Scream! - 3 step arc, camp horror; try out in 1st person POV - 35 Ratings/4 Stars
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Originally Posted by Cende
Please remember that there are 29 more days available to April than just the first, all of which would be considered to be "in April".
Get back to us if DS isn't out by May 2. |
I realize april has more days. My only issue is they never gave a date other than "april" which suggests the first day of it.
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Demon Summoning is scheduled for release when I17 goes live.
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Originally Posted by GothicRose
On a side note.. the website did say April for demons to become available and that was posted before april 1st.. so shouldnt they be here now or am I missing something?
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@Golden Girl
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Not really - it covers the whole month |
Originally Posted by GothicRose
I realize april has more days. My only issue is they never gave a date other than "april" which suggests the first day of it.
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@Golden Girl
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If it said "sometime in april" i'd agree, but it doesn't.
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Unless a date is given, any announcement includes the whole month |
Originally Posted by GothicRose
If it said "sometime in april" i'd agree, but it doesn't.
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GR is launching in July - but I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for it to be July 1st
@Golden Girl
City of Heroes comics and artwork
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Not to be curt but to you "in April" may imply April 1st; to the rest of the world it means exactly what it says, a day in April. That covers April 1st-April 30th. If they had meant it to say April 1st, it would have said April 1st. You can't pull a specific date out of language as ambiguous as "in April." Think of it this way, if a game is scheduled to come out 2nd Quarter 2010, are you gonna assume it's going to be released January 1st?*|
Originally Posted by GothicRose
If it said "sometime in april" i'd agree, but it doesn't.
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I want DS to go live as much as anyone (and I am a prepurchaser), but I'm not going to waste time whining unless I have something to actually whine about.
*Using U.S. Gov's fiscal year as an example.
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Are Demons on Open Beta already?
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@Golden Girl
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Damn you devs!
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Best to hope for sometime next week. |
Originally Posted by Pedro Schwartz
Damn you devs!
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Well, I can't wait to try out the new MM, Been waiting to try it out for some time noe, but I will give the Duel Gunners a 9-10 great fun in a team.
well personally rather than demon summoning, which i dont see myself using for anything other than a whip themed charecter (succubus for instance) im hoping they release the cyborg parts as unlockables as shown in the pic below... thats what the cyborg booster set should have been.
