1 Billion - Really Doesn't Mean Much Any More Does it?
This discussion has made me wonder what my main's current build is worth were I to sell all his enhancements on the market.
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My build breaks down like this right now:
Purple IOs: 14 (goal: 23)
Orange & Yellow IOs: 62 (goal 51)
White IOs: 13
HOs: 5
SOs, DOs, TOs & PvP IOs: 0
Empty Slots: 4 (Prestige Sprints)
All but two of the Orange, Yellow and White IOs were personal drops, or else Ticket or Merit rewards. So their initial costs are hard to determine. The two that I bought were a Steadfast Protection: -KB and a Numina's Convalescence: +Regen/+Recovery. Same for the HOs, all rewards from Raids and LRSFs (although with couple of them I traded more valuable HOs that I'd received for other's drops that were more useful to my build). Only two of my purples were personal drops (I've had about 7 drop, but only the two that I wanted for this character), the rest I bought on the Black Market. The two that dropped were the Armageddon Proc and the Armageddon Acc/Dmg/Rch. I don't farm, but I do a lot of normal gameplay at x8 Party difficulty settings, and vendor most of it. I don't try to get tricky with the market at all, I just throw crap up there in bulk at whatever price looks like it will move things out of my slots in a day or two.
So, the total amount I've actually spent on the Black Market for this build is just below 350 Million. I got most of my purples way back in the day, when people didn't know what to do with them yet and they were still fluctuating in price a lot. It's kind of amusing that I'll probably spend more on each of my last four Hecatombs and five Apocalypses than I've spent on the entire rest of the build to this point.
The current value, judging by the average prices the market currently lists, is about 3.6 Billion, or just over 10 times what I've actually spent on it. But the remaining cost before I'll consider the build "complete" will likely shift the balance quite a bit.
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The current value, judging by the average prices the market currently lists, is about 3.6 Billion, or just over 10 times what I've actually spent on it. |
I'm almost afraid to compare current prices to what I spent building my BS/Regen Scrapper considering the three sets of PvP IO's that went into her, two purple sets and the number of Numina's, Miracles and LotG's. I started hoarding PvP IO's not long after they came out so I got a fair number for quite a deal, and the rest were drops, trades or bought off the market more recently. At the time I think she ran me about 4.5bil. Now though, looking at what Panaceas alone are going for...it'd be just scary, lol.
More on the main topic now though. To me, 1bil is still a fair bit of Inf for 90% of my toons. I've only slotted Purple IO's into three of them, and PvP IO's have only found their way into two builds. The rest of my toons make do with Common IO's and regular sets. Although, some of those regular sets are starting to go for almost obscene amounts of Inf as well. I can barely remember the last time I picked up a LotG: Defense for less than 40-50mil for instance. And today I had to spend almost 60mil on a set of Efficacy Adapters and Touch of the Nictus, both of which I could have gotten for 10-15mil total prior to AE. Just means I have to spend more time farming though, which I don't really mind much since I can turn around and spend the Prestige I'm earning on my bases, hehe.
My WM/Shield surpassed 1B last night, and is worth more than that as he's also holding onto one each of Hecatomb, Soulbound Allegiance, Armageddon and Respec recipes.
No, it's not a lot compared to some out there and I'd still have a ton of work to do if I wanted to purple him out. But his build is nearly finished (last two Obliterations came in on inexpensive bids last night) but for pieces here and there (mainly LoTG, so I'll have to spend some of the inf). His inf will just make it that easier to outfit my Widow, then my Bane, then whoever's next.
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This thread is just another in a long line of "my e-peen is bigger than yours" threads that are pretty much standard for this section of the forum.
There's something to be said about discretion and a little humility. This is the wrong place to find that.
It's in with the subtle color schemes and quiet, understated costumes.
Seriously, you were looking to the "FOOLS! I'LL DESTROY YOU ALL!"/ "NOT IF I HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT IT! FACE MY FIST OF JUSTICE!" crowd for discretion?
We have THOUGHT BUBBLES over our heads with all our secrets in them.
Mini-guides: Force Field Defenders, Blasters, Market Self-Defense, Frankenslotting.
So you think you're a hero, huh.
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Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
This thread is just another in a long line of "my e-peen is bigger than yours" threads that are pretty much standard for this section of the forum.
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There's something to be said about discretion and a little humility. This is the wrong place to find that. |
Cause I'd love to drop in and complain about how they should spend more time talking about HIGH FINANCE and wealth building.
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Sadly people in Real Life spend a lot more time thinking about making and keeping their money. . . I've never had anyone go "Hey, nice outfit" and throw $100 at me.
Neither have any of my friends who can actually dress themselves.
Mini-guides: Force Field Defenders, Blasters, Market Self-Defense, Frankenslotting.
So you think you're a hero, huh.
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Pay for badges (maybe not quite the amounts suggested) might have a nice deflationary effect.
Infinity and Victory mostly
dUmb, etc.
lolz PvP anymore, Market PvP for fun and profit
This thread is just another in a long line of "my e-peen is bigger than yours" threads that are pretty much standard for this section of the forum.
There's something to be said about discretion and a little humility. This is the wrong place to find that. |
By posting in it, you failed at humility.
Thanks for playing, anyway.
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That and lolz humility with fake money.
Infinity and Victory mostly
dUmb, etc.
lolz PvP anymore, Market PvP for fun and profit
Would have to agree that 1 billion is not that much anymore. Once you get a decent farmer or learn to play the markets it does not take long to rake in the fake money. Hell 3-4 of the right purple drops and you have a billion right there.
By opening this thread, you failed at discretion.
By posting in it, you failed at humility. Thanks for playing, anyway. |
Your second point makes no sense.
And, you're welcome for playing.
LOL. Yes, getting lots of fake money = high finance and wealth building.
I see I'll have to dumb things down for you a bit...
Nice try. So clicking on a link to see its content is indiscrete?
Your second point makes no sense. |
"By opening this thread, you failed at discretion."
discretion: noun, the power or right to decide or act according to one's own judgment
Discretion would've allowed you to notice that this thread isn't worth your perceived time. You wouldn't have bothered with it, and saved all of us a few precious minutes. You chose poorly, thus you failed at discretion.
"By posting in it, you failed at humility."
humility: noun, the quality or condition of being humble; modest opinion or estimate of one's own importance
Here's your original post:
This thread is just another in a long line of "my e-peen is bigger than yours" threads that are pretty much standard for this section of the forum. There's something to be said about discretion and a little humility. This is the wrong place to find that. |
If however you were including yourself in your last sentence, then at least you're internally consistent, that no one on this forum is particularly humble, yourself included. If that was your intent, I retract that portion of my criticism.
Was that simple enough for you?
LOL. Yes, getting lots of fake money = high finance and wealth building. |
Now digital money also have perceived value. People put in time and effort to get them, and thus have real value. They're even traded for "real" money, i.e. RMTs. Hell, go on ebay and see how much your account is worth (maybe not so much in CoX any more, but in other games...). Ethics aside, there are obviously ppl in the world that actually make "real" money getting lots of "fake" money, so how fake is that latter, anyway?
So yeah, the "fake" money argument is spurious too. And, no, you don't need an MBA to make a lot of "fake" money, but then no one ever claimed you did. Many, many claims to the contrary though. So again, nice try. By all means, keep playing though. Or, you know, you can exercise some discretion.
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I've never posted a screenie of any of my 11-12 billionaire toons mainly because I've never felt motivated and it seemed kind of odd to just do it for one of my alts and too much work for all of them. That said, since I'm planning to convert 30B of my infamy to prestige sometime in the next 3-4 mos I think I'll post a screenie of my main with my VG's prestige up before and after the arduous conversion process (lots of trips back to market to fetch 2B more).
I agree that 1 billion really isn't much anymore for spec'ing out a toon to the hilt and honestly thats what people collect the fortunes for so they can buy whatever they want. Of course redside you could have 100B and not be able to get alot of stuff quickly like Cloud Senses procs or Kin Combats at level 35 for example.
Redside market might be hopeless at this time because I dropped most of my brainstorm stash (30k or so) into the market and made a ton of infamy but only temporarily dented the prices. Perhaps I should have done more commons but I tried to do a mix that was closer to the real drop rates.