Thread oppposed to lvl 20 epics
blargh.
I "worked hard" to get a 50 hero and a 50 villain so I could make Peacebringers (sucked), Warshades (sucked but not as much), Soldiers (decent), and Widows (one of my best toons). I still think the decision is a good one. Granted I probably would've done 30 or 35 just because 20 comes so fast, but I still agree with the decision.
The EATs are all solid ATs that people put a lot of time into. They could use some tweaks here and there (HEATs especially), but there are a lot of people missing out on these ATs as an option. I myself have about 7 level 50s, but it still took me about 2.5 years to get my first one. The reason they gave for lowering the level is that there are long-time vets who still don't have a 50.
The point is, stuff gets put into the game for people to experience it. And not enough people are experiencing EATs. The devs have said they regretted the level 50 thing for a long time. And level 50 for our game has never been a goal or an ending point that normal players should reach. With all the people telling everyone on the forums that it's the journey and not the destination, and not to rush to 50, why do we have ATs that you can't play until then? It's a contradiction.
<-- In favor of earlier access EATs
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I too "worked" hard to raise up several heroes and villains to 50, to unlock Epics on all of my accounts.
Peacebringers sucked. Warshades were a bit better. Soldiers are Meh, but my Widow rocks.
Do I give a care about the requirements being dropped to 20? Not at all. I've come to expect it actually. The first set of people to do a task will always work harder than several generations later.
Personally I would've dropped it to 35 to be in line with Cimerora, RWZ (VMs) and just the sheer splidget of challenge 35 takes over 20, but oh well...
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Bah! less options = bad!
Just because you don't like lemon-aid, doesn't mean you get to pee in other peoples.
I don't see a big deal about lowering the level requirement.
So there will be even more people to say "meh" about the EATs.
Be well, people of CoH.
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I briefly grumbled (but only to myself) when I first learned of this. However, I am cool with it. I am pleased that I was able to get my Khelds and VEATS (I can't get myself to call Khelds EATS...squids...good EATS?) unlocked the old way.
I am going to speculate that if unlocking epics is no longer going to be a reward for reaching 50, then reaching 50 is going to have a reward that is much much much much better. My advice is to just be patient and wait and see what happens.
I briefly grumbled (but only to myself) when I first learned of this. However, I am cool with it. I am pleased that I was able to get my Khelds and VEATS (I can't get myself to call Khelds EATS...squids...good EATS?) unlocked the old way.
I am going to speculate that if unlocking epics is no longer going to be a reward for reaching 50, then reaching 50 is going to have a reward that is much much much much better. My advice is to just be patient and wait and see what happens. |
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I don't index my satisfaction in my accomplishments by what others DON'T have. Certainly not in a game where it costs me nothing is they have something I already have.
I approve of epics at 20. My Khelds and Arachnos characters do too.
My scrapper doesn't need an AoE. She IS an AoE.
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While I'm familiar with the quote it doesn't quite apply in game design. You can NEVER please all of the people. Ever. No matter what you do, someone will have a problem with it.
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Pleasing them was not in the running.
My scrapper doesn't need an AoE. She IS an AoE.
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I "worked hard" to get a 50 hero and a 50 villain so I could make Peacebringers (sucked), Warshades (sucked but not as much), Soldiers (decent), and Widows (one of my best toons). I still think the decision is a good one. Granted I probably would've done 30 or 35 just because 20 comes so fast, but I still agree with the decision.
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If you get a Kheldian or an SoA to level 50, though, THEN what have you accomplished? You have a level 50 Kheldian or SoA.
You've still got that second accomplishment to aim for. And personally, I don't think making the first one easier made the second any easier. If anything, it made it that much sooner before you got to realize that no, Kheldians and SoA are NOT uber powerful, and in fact they may suck.
I could have argued in favor of making it 30 or 40 (you get capes at 20 and auras at 30, EATs at 40 does kind of make sense) but if it ties in with Going Rogue, and we even manage to get a new EAT out of it, well, that's fine with me.
Oh and for the record, my only real complaint now would be you get nothing at 50. Where's my new costume slot for 50?!
Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.
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Actually, it is true. There are things that have made everyone happy. Getting rid of Jack.. introducing Global Chat... it's just that the "all some of the time" is a very rare happening.
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I feel like if they sent us all free donuts someone would be upset they didn't get their favorite flavor.
I'm thrilled with a lot of the new changes but someone somewhere is bent out of shape. Luckily I get to play the game my way whatever they think!
I don't know, I suppose I'm just too much of a cynic. I just can't imagine any change where at least one person wasn't at home all angry or at least discontented with it.
I feel like if they sent us all free donuts someone would be upset they didn't get their favorite flavor. I'm thrilled with a lot of the new changes but someone somewhere is bent out of shape. Luckily I get to play the game my way whatever they think! |
I'm happy that there is less 'need' to grind or PL to 50 just to unlock more character generation choices.
I don't mind that I did it the old fashioned way, and others won't.
I don't suffer from altitis, I enjoy every minute of it.
Thank you Devs & Community people for a great game.
So sad to be ending ):
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