To Insp or not to Insp in a PVP zone?


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Today In sirens I was playing around on my lil dom and I was fighting two heroes, one was a Warshade and the other was a spine/dark scrapper. so, I kills the Warshade and I'm down to half my life and now I’m one on one with the Scrapper. He gets me down to a smidgen of my life bar, so I pops two greens and I'm right back up to near full life and carry on fighting.

Next thing the scrapper pops phase and says 'lol weak. You're weak' and I'm like wtf? So the convo goes like this:

Me: If I'm weak why did you pop phase'
Scrapper: Because you popped
Me: Too right I popped, I was about to die
Scrapper: Because you're weak.
Me: What? I'm supposed to stand there and let you kill me?
Scrapper: You had to pop because you’re weak, why bother coming into a pvp zone if you're just going to pop like that?
Me: lol you have to be joking right? I wasn't the one that phased on a scrapper to a weak dom.
Scrapper: If you’re good, you wouldn't need to pop!
Me: I was fighting two of you on my own lol

Anyway, he continued to moan about me popping two greens and calling me weak.

For all my time I have played in Sirens, I have never recalled any such rules about popping a couple of greens and I have never had a dev sending me a warning that it is against the PVP rules.

So... is using inps in a pvp zone totally acceptable?


 

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Totally acceptable.



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lolshades

edit<> just to add this is the joke toons that run around sirens? a warshade and a dark scrapper, that is rich


 

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This completely depends on whar your "klub" affiliation is, lol.


 

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Rules for PvP zones (not counting real exploits such as geometry bugs, going under the map, etc.):






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This completely depends on whar your "klub" affiliation is, lol.


 

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Use it if you've got it. Heck, use Tier 3s if you have those.

Zones are a FFA, there aren't any set rules outside of not abusing geometry exploits.


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I think people for the most part think negatively about popping inspirations. It also comes down to how you pop inspirations too, for instance if you're chasing someone trying to finish the kill, and hear that toon popping off like bubble wrap, you're going to get laughed at more than likely. On the other hand, if a tank gets hit with Heat Exhaustion, I don't think people are gonna make comments about why you popped a blue.

If you need an inspiration every now and then, no one will care, but if you rely on them to avoid dying every time you get into trouble, go respec and buy some IO's.

There is certainly no rules pertaining to popping inspirations, if there was, then you wouldn't even have the option to use them in that zone.


 

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"Free Fire Zone" means that you're "free" to "fire" off as many insps as you want


 

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Why argue? If they think popping is for nubs let them think that. Just tell them to keep being 1337 by not popping (and getting rekd) while you stay bad using insp (and farm them).


 

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I now give you the only pvp rule in this game for zone pvp.


prepare to be attacked by other players.

that is all.


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Yeah, that noob keeps popping inspirations. Totally weak sauce. I would never do that.

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I think the best way to look at it is to comapre the situation with PvE. I mean, would you really give props to the blaster that just popped 6 reds and purples to solo a single EB... nah not really. Smart thing to do perhaps when the **** hits the fan, but it's not like you'd think the toon was good or anything for having to do so.

There is "effective use" of insp, and there is also "excessive use" if insp.

I see less wrong in a player that zones, kills things in the zone and uses the insp gained from doing so to stay alive and kill others. I sometimes frown however at those who will leave a zone repeatedly to fill their tray and actively engage in zone PvP only when that tray is full.

Theres basically two types of Insp users: Those that carry inspirations to counter effects, and those one carry insp to increase effects. The first group is fine, acceptable, and often smarter than the other group. The other group is fine also, but can often (but not always) include really bad players that assume skill due to their efficient use of insp dispensers.

[Edit:] Oh I forgot about a third group... those that will stay in a zone and never leave to get insp... and never take advantage of all the npcs around the that will drop them. These peeps will fight with real honor and will gladly be farmed over and over again, as longs as it means they did so with honor and by following the code of tru warrir.


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[QUOTE=Dahjee;2673692]Oh I forgot about a third group... those that will stay in a zone and never leave to get insp... and never take advantage of all the npcs around the that will drop them.QUOTE]



That's me, I am too lazy to leave zone for insps, and as a stalker I dont like comming out of hide to get ganked by 3 blasters, 2 defenders, 4 scrappers and a tank, all because I wanted to get an insp drop....lol however I still manage about a 10/1 K/D ratio.. so meh....


 

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when i cba i go pick them up. i usuall get frustrated using them though since they trigger ts


 

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Originally Posted by Lucky666 View Post
lolshades

edit<> just to add this is the joke toons that run around sirens? a warshade and a dark scrapper, that is rich
yeah, joke toons or just "for fun" toons. I mean why play these in SC when you can goto RV and use robots to help fight? Jeeeesh...

Anyways, lol@ppl complaining about popping, KSing and rules in zone pvp.


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Originally Posted by Dahjee View Post
I think the best way to look at it is to comapre the situation with PvE. I mean, would you really give props to the blaster that just popped 6 reds and purples to solo a single EB... nah not really. Smart thing to do perhaps when the **** hits the fan, but it's not like you'd think the toon was good or anything for having to do so.

There is "effective use" of insp, and there is also "excessive use" if insp.

I see less wrong in a player that zones, kills things in the zone and uses the insp gained from doing so to stay alive and kill others. I sometimes frown however at those who will leave a zone repeatedly to fill their tray and actively engage in zone PvP only when that tray is full.

Theres basically two types of Insp users: Those that carry inspirations to counter effects, and those one carry insp to increase effects. The first group is fine, acceptable, and often smarter than the other group. The other group is fine also, but can often (but not always) include really bad players that assume skill due to their efficient use of insp dispensers.

[Edit:] Oh I forgot about a third group... those that will stay in a zone and never leave to get insp... and never take advantage of all the npcs around the that will drop them. These peeps will fight with real honor and will gladly be farmed over and over again, as longs as it means they did so with honor and by following the code of tru warrir.
There is no such thing as excessive use of insp in a pvp zone. Excessive use basically means wasting insp. Pop 2 insp and popping a 3rd is a waste. Try spamming greens in a pvp zone when your hp is low. After the 2nd pop you're basically just throwing them away.

Insp have been nerfed to hell and back. I remember when insp management actually mattered. Now you just fill the tray with greens, maybe a few blues, and pop 2 when needed. They've been dumbed down like the rest of pvp to suit the needs of bad players like Dahjee


 

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lol, if you're gonna try and hate me... do a better job of disagreeing with me. Cause I think you just basically repeated what I said.


"Situational power? Sure. Although in a sense... all powers are situational. It's just that some situations occur more than others." Understand the situation needed in order for the power to be most effective... and make that situation happen.

 

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Did you even read your own post? You know, the one where you compare popping insp in PvE to popping in PvP (lulz). No? Its the one where you suggest we PvE in a PvP zone for insp. You said that people can use insp excessively like it even mattered. I'm pointing out that it doesn't since the insp nerf.

How about next time you try and do a better job at sounding like you know what you're talking about. Either that or try sounding less like a nub.


 

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Originally Posted by Dahjee View Post
I think the best way to look at it is to comapre the situation with PvE. I mean, would you really give props to the blaster that just popped 6 reds and purples to solo a single EB... nah not really.
What does taking down bags of hp with dumb ai have to do with pvp?


 

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Originally Posted by Terror1 View Post
What does taking down bags of hp with dumb ai have to do with pvp?
lol


 

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Originally Posted by SmegHead View Post
Did you even read your own post? You know, the one where you compare popping insp in PvE to popping in PvP (lulz). No? Its the one where you suggest we PvE in a PvP zone for insp. You said that people can use insp excessively like it even mattered. I'm pointing out that it doesn't since the insp nerf.

How about next time you try and do a better job at sounding like you know what you're talking about. Either that or try sounding less like a nub.
Excessive meaning wasteful.... I should really remember to go slow for you. ReRead... slowly, and you may just actully see the similarities and laugh at yourself like I did.

I said some use them when needed... you said just fill up on greens/blues and pop when needed.

I said some will be excessive... (usually bad players) this was too quick for you so you went on to say that popping more than 2 insp is a waste and a bad player would do such.

ur dumb. Please don't rage on me again about a silly topic such as this.

[EDIT:] BTW, Were insp nerfed, or do they suffer from the same DR/HD as everything else?

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What does taking down bags of hp with dumb ai have to do with pvp?

You use insp in both PvP and PvE. Insp use is the OP. Stay focused.


"Situational power? Sure. Although in a sense... all powers are situational. It's just that some situations occur more than others." Understand the situation needed in order for the power to be most effective... and make that situation happen.

 

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Originally Posted by Dahjee View Post
[EDIT:] BTW, Were insp nerfed, or do they suffer from the same DR/HD as everything else?
Heal Decay applies to green inspirations also.


 

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Originally Posted by Dahjee View Post
Excessive meaning wasteful.... I should really remember to go slow for you. ReRead... slowly, and you may just actully see the similarities and laugh at yourself like I did.

I said some use them when needed... you said just fill up on greens/blues and pop when needed.

I said some will be excessive... (usually bad players) this was too quick for you so you went on to say that popping more than 2 insp is a waste and a bad player would do such.

ur dumb. Please don't rage on me again about a silly topic such as this.

[EDIT:] BTW, Were insp nerfed, or do they suffer from the same DR/HD as everything else?




You use insp in both PvP and PvE. Insp use is the OP. Stay focused.
You can keep trying to make that point valid, but it makes about as much sense as you trying to relate popping insp in pvp to popping insp in pve. I will repeat, I was simply pointing out the fact that "excessive" use of insp is a waste since insp were nerfed (and btw, dr and hd applied to insp is a nerf. gg on putting 2 and 2 together).

The rest of the post was simply stating you were a bad player.

I guess I was pointing out the obvious in both instances huh?