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Originally Posted by kojirodensetsu
... Dante's Inferno is BMT Redside... All 3 are good games...
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Originally Posted by White Hot Flash
I think you're thinking about it too hard.
Let's all drop the pretenses that Champions United or BMT Redside are in existence for any other reason than someone getting upset on the playground and deciding to take their ball and go play somewhere else. The best channel would be the one that has the most people, period. Every time a channel divides, for whatever reason, it reduces in effectiveness. It's simple math, folks. Here's a sample shot of how the channel can work without being heavy-handed: Last night there were folks that wanted to start up a Kickball match. They talked about it for at least ten minutes before they started, and answered several questions about it from a few new people. They got people to show up for it, and the whole thing was perfectly civil. No one complained "OMG pvp talk in BMT! That's not what this channel is for!" (never mind that there are pvp badges, which came up in conversation) No one complained that they couldn't find other teams because the channel was talking about PvP and drowning out their requests. Someone advertised a match, they talked it up for a bit to get interest, and then it stopped...all by itself. This happens every day. People can conduct civilized conversations all by themselves, even when the teacher is out of the classroom. Let's try to do more of this. |
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Originally Posted by kojirodensetsu
Darksiders is BMT of Champion, Dante's Inferno is BMT Redside, and Champions United is God of War. |
PVP chatter in BMT GTFO...
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Originally Posted by White Hot Flash
Here's a sample shot of how the channel can work without being heavy-handed:
Last night there were folks that wanted to start up a Kickball match. They talked about it for at least ten minutes before they started, and answered several questions about it from a few new people. They got people to show up for it, and the whole thing was perfectly civil. No one complained "OMG pvp talk in BMT! That's not what this channel is for!" (never mind that there are pvp badges, which came up in conversation) No one complained that they couldn't find other teams because the channel was talking about PvP and drowning out their requests. Someone advertised a match, they talked it up for a bit to get interest, and then it stopped...all by itself. This happens every day. People can conduct civilized conversations all by themselves, even when the teacher is out of the classroom. Let's try to do more of this. |
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Originally Posted by Meowtch
You would need to take that up with certain mods, one of which was not on last night according to my globals (that I can recall the few times I checked them), hence the free speech
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Originally Posted by White Hot Flash
You just made my point. The channel doesn't need active conversation moderation. Most of those that caused the channel to be private in the first place aren't around, and the rest of us just want to find teams. If there's 6 mods (or however many there are) and only one of them cares enough to open their mouth on a regular basis, many times before anyone has a chance to complain (or not), perhaps that one person isn't acting on behalf of everyone anymore. The channel does its job (putting people with other people doing the same task, or giving information) all by itself, and it does it best when there's a lot of people in it. It's called BMT, but that's not ALL that it needs to be.
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Why does everyone keep thinking that setting up pvp events in BMT is "frowned" upon. Arguing about pvp, griping about pvp, etc. are indeed frowned upon. But basic pvp chatter of setting up, asking people to join, etc. is a-okay. GTFO.
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Originally Posted by Horusaurus
Why does everyone keep thinking that setting up pvp events in BMT is "frowned" upon. Arguing about pvp, griping about pvp, etc. are indeed frowned upon. But basic pvp chatter of setting up, asking people to join, etc. is a-okay. GTFO.
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Originally Posted by Meowtch
I need to ask this question, is the "GTFO" at the end of your comment really necessary?
I'm not trying to pick fights but **** like GTFO and RTF MoTD seem pretty inappropriate and unnecessary and I've been wondering what is up every one's *** lately? Just curious, feel free to flame away but srsly, it's pretty rude to treat peeps that way. I don't think that I got myself knee-deep in a ******** contest with Vori and friends to save the channel a year or so ago for everyone to dog peeps and treat them like ****, I'm really starting to wonder why the hell I went through all of that to save the channel in the first friggin place. |
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Originally Posted by Meowtch
I need to ask this question, is the "GTFO" at the end of your comment really necessary?
I'm not trying to pick fights but **** like GTFO and RTF MoTD seem pretty inappropriate and unnecessary and I've been wondering what is up every one's *** lately? Just curious, feel free to flame away but srsly, it's pretty rude to treat peeps that way. I don't think that I got myself knee-deep in a ******** contest with Vori and friends to save the channel a year or so ago for everyone to dog peeps and treat them like ****, I'm really starting to wonder why the hell I went through all of that to save the channel in the first friggin place. |
I'll say this much, because you have "RTF MoTD" in that motd CA, u should see how peeps answer each other in that channel when someone asks a question.
And, there are times when stuff purges if ur on long enough and you can't read the damned thing anymore.
End O'story or not, CA, it seems pretty inappropriate and has opened the door to plenty of people telling others asking a simple question to RTFMOTD and that is rude. Period. End of story, as u say.
U know I've always said you are at least, for the most part, even keeled with the way u run the channel but some things are just not needed. RTF is one of them IMO.
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Originally Posted by Horusaurus
Edit: Because I'm "that guy" and that's the way I roll.
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Originally Posted by Silas
something something BMT fascism, something something taking my ball and going home
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Originally Posted by White Hot Flash
I think you're thinking about it too hard.
Let's all drop the pretenses that Champions United or BMT Redside are in existence for any other reason than someone getting upset on the playground and deciding to take their ball and go play somewhere else. The best channel would be the one that has the most people, period. Every time a channel divides, for whatever reason, it reduces in effectiveness. It's simple math, folks. Here's a sample shot of how the channel can work without being heavy-handed: Last night there were folks that wanted to start up a Kickball match. They talked about it for at least ten minutes before they started, and answered several questions about it from a few new people. They got people to show up for it, and the whole thing was perfectly civil. No one complained "OMG pvp talk in BMT! That's not what this channel is for!" (never mind that there are pvp badges, which came up in conversation) No one complained that they couldn't find other teams because the channel was talking about PvP and drowning out their requests. Someone advertised a match, they talked it up for a bit to get interest, and then it stopped...all by itself. This happens every day. People can conduct civilized conversations all by themselves, even when the teacher is out of the classroom. Let's try to do more of this. |
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Originally Posted by Tank_Washington
lol it must be a common theme on your server, I was on an alt last month and got quieted when someone asked about a set bonus and I knew the answer.
I do have to say I've got all the main GC's on my main servers and the level of mod'ing on your channel is in a class by itself. But for the most part the channel seems pretty friendly for the past year I've had it, though on some nights the mod'ing is way over the top, given you all tell newbs they should hook up with BMT when they come to this server. Just saying that from an outsiders perspective that can be pretty off putting for someone testing out your server, and I hail mostly from freedom/virtue, so that's saying something. Friendliness and common sense are more likely to keep visitors from leaving your server, which has lost population the past couple years, just a thought. . |
) themselves talk would dominate the channel. Derailing it from its original purpose.
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Originally Posted by Meowtch
I'll say this much, because you have "RTF MoTD" in that motd CA, u should see how peeps answer each other in that channel when someone asks a question.
And, there are times when stuff purges if ur on long enough and you can't read the damned thing anymore. End O'story or not, CA, it seems pretty inappropriate and has opened the door to plenty of people telling others asking a simple question to RTFMOTD and that is rude. Period. End of story, as u say. U know I've always said you are at least, for the most part, even keeled with the way u run the channel but some things are just not needed. RTF is one of them IMO. |
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Originally Posted by DarthAcerbus
So we're not taking into account that Darksiders and Dante's Inferno are basically God of War clones? To continue with that metaphor, shouldn't BMT of Champion be God of War (IMO the better game?)
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I have to agree with Meowtch and Tank Washington here. The abruptness, sometimes bordering on rudeness, is not needed and, in my opinion, inappropriate at most times. This comment is not directed at any particular person.
To back this up, there are numerous people at countless times who ask what level a certain tf is. Nobody gets gruff about it and the answer is straight-forward. Why can't other answers be such? Telling someone to read the MotD after they've been on for hours isn't helping anyone.
As Tank Washington alluded to regarding the fact we frequently tell newcomers to request an invite to BMT and then the way certain things are being said is a double-edged sword. I realize this.
My only request is to put ourselves in other people's shoes before they open their mouths in different situations, especially if the reply is inclined to be rude and condescending. There can be, and in fact are, shades of grey here.
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Originally Posted by GATTACA
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Been away from the game since last summer.
Checked out the forums this AM, and sure enough ... Champion drama.
Good times!
This thread has inspired me to make a new Sonic / Energy Blaster last night by the name of Drama Cannon. She's a mutant that draws her power from all of the drama on the Champion server.
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Originally Posted by Celestial_Lord
This thread has inspired me to make a new Sonic / Energy Blaster last night by the name of Drama Cannon. She's a mutant that draws her power from all of the drama on the Champion server.
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people, its a game. lighten up.
not everyone finds the rtfmotd offensive.
| Cobalt: Edit: Ironically, the majority o' people that are bein' told to RTFMotD are people who honestly know better, know the times o' various raids that have been happenin' for days, weeks, and months for some time now and shouldn't have to be told to do it. |
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Originally Posted by Cobalt_Azurean
Ironically enough, if I was online, I wouldn't have moded the conversation. So much for that idea.
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| And yes, it does need active moderation. I've received more 'thank you's for keeping the channel on topic than people gettin' all butt-hurt that they can't follow the rules. |
| And no, it's not just BMT, because I won't moderate game-related conversations. But I'm sure this faults whatever point it is that you're tryin' to make, so you'd fail to mention it. |
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Honestly, if you don't like the moderation in there, and this isn't the first time this has come up, nor will it be the last, just leave the channel. Unless you just need somethin' to gripe/complain/moan 'bout. |