Is it worth it to start up?


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lying "wizards"; ok, you've stumped me here...
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We're filled with witches, monkeys flying out of your %%**, lying "wizards" and midgets?

I think you have the metaphor backwards.

Lying wizards? Might I direct you to Dr Aeon? The Wizard behind AE...

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I know everybody already said it but CoH truely is a differt game. I hated WoW when i tryed it for a month cause all my friends played on their 80's doing raids, and i was left to solo grind alot. For CoH you don't need a "guild" (called supergroups here) to be able to team or talk. WoW was a solo grinde for me and I hate that, especially coming from CoH. I also think the population of CoH is friendlier and more helpful to new players.

You can always find teams via broadcast, search or global channels. One thing i would recomend is that if you decide to subscribe, once you pick a server post on the server section and say hi. Find out that servers main global channels, IMO they are the best way to get on TF's and teams, as well as get help.

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If you have a Big Lots store in your area check out the software section and you may be able to still find some Good VS Evil editions for $10. They come with a month of game time. Upgrade your account with the code for a cheaper full experience than just a Trial code.

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I see teams running at all levels. Since there is no raid-play centered on having high levels with the phattest l3wt clustered together, and especially given the new SSK (supersidekick) mechanic, which enables teaming almost without regard to level, I would say you will not be soloing much unless you want to.


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Sure it is.

You usually see tons of people congregated in Atlas Park or at the Black Market in Cap au Diable. Lots of grouping through sewers and such.

When you start up, check your chosen server's forum for their teaming and global channel for more teaming opportunities. For example, Champion has BMT of Champion, Pinnacle has Cozmic's Playground and PinnBadges and so on. These are fairly busy channels where people look for teams and so on. Since a lot of people are indoors (instances) doing missions, this alleviates the feeling you are "alone".


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Hey guys and gals,

I've been playing MMO's for years, from WoW, Guildwars, Warhammer and now to Aion and LOTRO. I like the graphics of Aion but absolutely hate the grind of Aion after level 25.

So my question is this.... Is it worthwhile to start playing a game where people have been playing for months or even years.
I've played WoW, Guild Wars, Aion, Granado Espada, Champions Online, and Rangarok Online.

In WoW, there was nobody to play with at all until super high levels, because supposedly the game didn't "begin" until max level. Which made me wonder what exactly I was doing until then. I understand builds are cookie-cutter in this game, more or less.

Guild Wars started off with a nice system where they emphasized skill over time played, but after the first and second expansions quickly abandoned that for a more grind-oriented system (with the way skills were unlocked and missions couldn't be skipped). I had a hard time finding groups to play with because most players were just impatient people wanting to get a mission completed already and didn't have time for failure. And if you aren't playing the type of character people want, good luck getting on a team.

Aion I didn't play very long because I felt it was nearly an identical experience to WoW. I teamed some with friends, but it didn't keep me interested.

Granado Espada was an utterly pointless game through and through, because it had an autobattle mode where your characters would just attack enemies near you without your input. As a result nobody teamed at all. Or did anything but AFK-level in dungeons, occasionally moving to a slightly higher level dungeon. Your builds didn't much matter in this game. Nothing did!

CO was pointless as well. I hated the graphics, but the character system and the leveling meant there was basically no need or point to teaming whatsoever. So nobody did. Your build didn't matter here since everyone's build was basically the same.

Ragnarok was the biggest grindfest of any game I've ever played. Totally absurd exp requirements, no quests to take the edge off, extremely rare items. And for about the last year I played the game, I never saw or met any new players at all. The influx of newbies in that game must've been single digits. Severe cookie-cutter builds here, to the point that there were only like 5 valid character/build combos for the possible 20 or so classes.

So when I play CoH, I have about 26 characters on my main server to pick from. I can play whoever, whenever. It doesn't matter what class I am or what my powersets are, since all of them are equally welcome (outside of the occasional people from other games who think you need to fill each team with heal0rz). I meet lots of new players all the time and I'm happy to see players coming into the game and being able to chat with them. There's an emphasis on making new characters (as I said, I have 26 on one server), so there are always a lot of people leveling in all level ranges. Even if you can't find many people, the super sidekick system allows you to team with ANYBODY at any level. Additionally, nothing beyond the basics is required to do anything in the game, so while someone who has rare items may have an edge in certain situations, you don't have to bother with any of it to play any part of the game and have fun.

So yes, it's worth it to start up.


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Just my two cents,
I'm the oddball of the bunch."So my global friends tell me "
I'm close to receiving my 30 month badge, have a hand full of alts 4 or 5.but I still play exclusively of my main a 50 fire/fire blaster.
I've got a little over 3000 hours log on him, and there's not a whole lot of content left that he haven't been through but I still have loads of fun playing him.

SO.

Is it worth it to start up? IMHO, yes

This is one of the greatest games ever and our community reflects that by be being the most player friendly and helpful in all MMO's

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Other MMORPGs are to City of Heroes what Kansas was to Oz.
now that needs to be in a sig.


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Hey guys and gals,

I've been playing MMO's for years, from WoW, Guildwars, Warhammer and now to Aion and LOTRO. I like the graphics of Aion but absolutely hate the grind of Aion after level 25.

So my question is this.... Is it worthwhile to start playing a game where people have been playing for months or even years. In LOTRO when I started a new account, I realized that there were no players the newbie zones and that meant that there were no players to group with in instances.

If I start playing this game am I going to be running solo until I get to a high level?

Any ideas?

Thanks
Plenty of lower level players still play. I can sympathize with you regarding Aion (lvl 41 Gladiator) and the grind gets way worse after 38 or so.

CoH is the un-MMO, it tends to be more casual and less grind-centric thatn your typical MMO. It also tends to be alt focused, while a few folks have 1 or a few characters most players have many and that means there will always be lower level characters running around.

I'd recommend avoiding farms and power leveling the first few times up so you can enjoy the journey.* Enjoy and welcome to the game.


* I'm not anti-PL by any stretch but new players should enjoy the 1-50 run a few times before they decide they need a (fill in the blank) at 50 for PvP/whatever other reason.


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For the OP, I love this game. A lot. I think there are things that can be improved, sure, but if you like to build, customize, and play, this is a great one. Is there any other MMO that comes even close to the variety of character design this one does? Some would say AION, but they're not even close (for variety anyway).

If you want to see what I mean, check out my character creation guide here:

http://www.jordans-town.com/toon-gen

Edit: It occurs to me that you asked what the point was to start after so long. The answer is that it doesn't matter. Listen to the others and take your time. I suggest Atlas/Galaxy > Hollows > Faultline > Croatoa. If you follow the arcs in those zones, you'll be level 35 to 40 by the time you're done and you will have seen the most unique and fun content in the game. But the next character can take a different route and see even more

Last note, go to virtue. Freedom is full, but full of rude players IMHO. If you don't mind a slower server, I make my primary home at Triumph and it suits me well. If you love PVP, Freedom is actually the best server AFAIK


 

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Hey guys and gals,

I've been playing MMO's for years, from WoW, Guildwars, Warhammer and now to Aion and LOTRO. I like the graphics of Aion but absolutely hate the grind of Aion after level 25.

So my question is this.... Is it worthwhile to start playing a game where people have been playing for months or even years. In LOTRO when I started a new account, I realized that there were no players the newbie zones and that meant that there were no players to group with in instances.

If I start playing this game am I going to be running solo until I get to a high level?

Any ideas?

Thanks
Short answer: Yes.

Longer answer: I'm also relatively new to the game (7-8 months) and I do not feel like I've missed much, I don't mean that in a bad way but in the sense that I don't have that "omg I have to hurry to lvl cap" feeling that most new players get when they start WoW or other similar games.

To give you an example of what others have already stated... I hit 50 on my first toon two days ago... made a new toon that I was on a team with 5 minutes after I finished the tutorial with him.


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In addition to all the great advice given thus far, I'd like to not only echo those things, but to also add that, in CoX, there are global chat channels. i.e. you can chat to anyone on these channels from any server. There are usually specific channels that are made to help persons find teams, TF/SFs and it's usually a nice place to just chat. Whatever server you decide upon, I'd urge you to check that Server's Forum section to get the name of those particualr channels you should join.

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Simply put: this game is PUG Heaven.

The absolutely last thing you need ever worry about is finding people to group up with at all levels. That is this game's speciality, and the secret of its continuing moderate success despite its (relative) lack of endgame (which the devs are now focussing on) and (until relatively recently) loot.

A lot of recruiting is done through the LFT system, which is slick and easy to use, but you can also use the global channels (check the server pages on this forum). You will find yourself getting private tells inviting you to groups from day 1, and after you've played for a few weeks you will get the hang of the system yourself and be inviting people left right and centre - even to do your own mission chains.

Take it from me - I was addicted to CoX for 3 years, then for a year I subbed on and off, then for a year I played other MMOs exclusively. All MMOs have their good points, but I can now safely say that no other game apart from DDO is as friendly to casual grouping as this game.

And that's why I've just recently come back!


 

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I'm spending ALL of Sunday, February 7th in the City.

If you have a full account by then, you can send me a tell. Make sure your chat options allow you to receive messages from the opposing faction (Heroes/Villains)

/t @Xalaqia, Hey, new guy here, and I have a few questions!

Trial Account only? Trial accounts can use the help channel, and are visible on the same server only (I think). I'm usually on the Victory Server.
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I may be editing my base (yup, you can have a super-base!), or respeccing one of my dozens of characters, or writing my new mission arc (yes, you CAN CREATE AND PLAY YOUR OWN MISSIONS/QUESTS!), so I may not see your message immediately.

The trial accounts and full accounts use the same download, so if you upgrade, you don't need to download or install anything else.

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We're filled with witches, monkeys flying out of your %%**, lying "wizards" and midgets?

I think you have the metaphor backwards.
Croatoa, Rikti War Zone, (Rogue Elements In the) Rikti War Zone, Croatoa...

I don't think the metaphor is backwards.

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Other MMORPGs are to City of Heroes what Kansas was to Oz.
We even have an appropriately hued Witch in charge of things here too.



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CoH is very alt-focused
Ooh! Another one for the oxymoron thread!



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If I start playing this game am I going to be running solo until I get to a high level?
I have 19 characters on Infinity. I have 3 that I am currently working on. They are level 41, 37 and 6.


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Yeah, most negative nancies you see are people who are jerks anyway and the game's better off without them.

This game gets rid of so many tedious and terrible things that other MMOs consider 'content'. You get travel powers rather quickly, so there's no jogging slowly for hours to get to missions. PVP is completely optional (and not particularly popular) and the game warns you from miles away about it. Thanks to the Sidekick system you can team with literally anyone, anywhere (to an extent) and still contribute to the team, and there's many different paths to levelling- it's impossible to do all the content on one character without deliberately slowing your progress.

This is the only game where there's a button to turn off XP gain, and it's considered a good feature.


 

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Hey guys and gals,

I've been playing MMO's for years, from WoW, Guildwars, Warhammer and now to Aion and LOTRO. I like the graphics of Aion but absolutely hate the grind of Aion after level 25.

So my question is this.... Is it worthwhile to start playing a game where people have been playing for months or even years. In LOTRO when I started a new account, I realized that there were no players the newbie zones and that meant that there were no players to group with in instances.

If I start playing this game am I going to be running solo until I get to a high level?

Any ideas?

Thanks
Without reading the rest of the thread, let me ask you - have you looked into exemplaring/sidekicking?

I only ask because the vets have.


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Yeah, most negative nancies you see are people who are jerks anyway and the game's better off without them.

This game gets rid of so many tedious and terrible things that other MMOs consider 'content'. You get travel powers rather quickly, so there's no jogging slowly for hours to get to missions. PVP is completely optional (and not particularly popular) and the game warns you from miles away about it. Thanks to the Sidekick system you can team with literally anyone, anywhere (to an extent) and still contribute to the team, and there's many different paths to levelling- it's impossible to do all the content on one character without deliberately slowing your progress.

This is the only game where there's a button to turn off XP gain, and it's considered a good feature.
In all honesty, I could never say anything more accurate than this.


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Originally Posted by neheshalom View Post
Hey guys and gals,

I've been playing MMO's for years, from WoW, Guildwars, Warhammer and now to Aion and LOTRO. I like the graphics of Aion but absolutely hate the grind of Aion after level 25.

So my question is this.... Is it worthwhile to start playing a game where people have been playing for months or even years. In LOTRO when I started a new account, I realized that there were no players the newbie zones and that meant that there were no players to group with in instances.

If I start playing this game am I going to be running solo until I get to a high level?

Any ideas?

Thanks
Yes. Yes it is.

Ridiculously so.

I can't think of any other MMORPG where you can start fresh and (almost)immediately make a contribution to a high-level team.

Though if you're on trial you'd do well to set your team tag to looking for anything and also have the comment about being in a trial.


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Originally Posted by Prof_Backfire View Post
Yeah, most negative nancies you see are people who are jerks anyway and the game's better off without them.

This game gets rid of so many tedious and terrible things that other MMOs consider 'content'. You get travel powers rather quickly, so there's no jogging slowly for hours to get to missions. PVP is completely optional (and not particularly popular) and the game warns you from miles away about it. Thanks to the Sidekick system you can team with literally anyone, anywhere (to an extent) and still contribute to the team, and there's many different paths to levelling- it's impossible to do all the content on one character without deliberately slowing your progress.

This is the only game where there's a button to turn off XP gain, and it's considered a good feature.
This, this, a thousand times, this!

I've been playing since September 2005. My account has never been allowed to lapse for more than a single day. I have purchased every booster, expansion or addition to this game that you have to pay for. Oh, and I have the grand total of 2 Level 50 characters, one hero, one villain.

CoH, as many people have said, is not about the "OMG must get to level cap now and trick out my build with every advantage so that I can take part in the high level content!". Apart from a few level-restricted pieces of content (TF's and trials, I'm looking at you!), there is absolutely nothing in this game that a Level 1 toon can't be a part of and make a contribution, as long as the people you're teaming with are happy.

To illustrate, one of the SuperGroups I'm in is called the "Frenzied 'Fenders". The only restriction is that to be a member of the group, you have to be a Defender. Once a week we run a Defender-exclusive team night. If you're playing a defender, welcome aboard, if you're not, enjoy the rest of the game.

It's not a large SG, and most of the people in it have known each other for quite a while, but that doesn't stop anyone else joining in our "Fender Frenzy" nights (as long as they have a defender, of course). The highest level toon in the SG is Level 41. The lowest is currently 6 (might be a bit more, but that's only because people level up insanely fast at low levels on those teams). All we care about is that a) you play a defender on Fender Frenzy night and b) you have fun.

Oh, and for anyone who doesn't know, yet... a team of all-defenders is amazing. Squishy? Hell yeah. Rips through AV's like tissue paper, though.


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Though if you're on trial you'd do well to set your team tag to looking for anything and also have the comment about being in a trial.
Just a quick note to put this in context - it's considered rude to invite people to a team without asking first, even if they have their LFT flag on. Thus, most team leaders will send you a tell first to check if you'd like to join them and wait for your reply before they send the actual invite. If you can't send tells, you can't reply, so they'll usually assume you're not interested. If you put a comment in your LFT window pointing out that you're on a trial account, they'll know that you can't answer them and send the invite without expecting a reply first.