Let's bann psi ems cuz tehy do too much dmg
let's bann mind fires cut they do too much dmg and have tk
let's bann emps cuz they can heal (oh snap)
let's bann therms cuz they have heat exhaustion
let's bann hibernate cuz you can't kill person in hiber
let's bann TA cuz they are annoying
let's bann tankers cuz of their epics and taunt
let's bann brutes for about same reason
let's bann trollers cuz their holds lasts for too long
let's bann doms for about same reason
let's bann.....jeez cmon
Realistically, 8 stalker team wouldn't win a match unless other team is retarded. How many times we ran KB and had stalker team vs w/e? It didn't go so well for stalker team.
Not all vet pvpers quit showing up in test pvp league..it was the vet pvpers who signed up for something know it was supposed to be fun, lost and took their balls and went home. TPVPL was the reason PE joined the test ladder...speaking of which Kat no one had to try out for every team. Some people like Ego created her own team to enter.. AA was specifically created by Hank to get new people in to ladder pvp...get them used to it and let them go join other sgs. Even during the start of the ladder - a lot of new sgs showed up...(I think there is still a match listed for ESK).
Either way I wish you guys luck with the ladder/league!
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I already mentioned the same thing about Hanks team. Ego is not exactly a fair example because her friend was Brynn, who was friends with Reaver who was friends with...you get the point. We are not talking about the average new pvp'r when you talk about how A.S.S. was started.|
Originally Posted by B_Witched
Not all vet pvpers quit showing up in test pvp league..it was the vet pvpers who signed up for something know it was supposed to be fun, lost and took their balls and went home. TPVPL was the reason PE joined the test ladder...speaking of which Kat no one had to try out for every team. Some people like Ego created her own team to enter.. AA was specifically created by Hank to get new people in to ladder pvp...get them used to it and let them go join other sgs. Even during the start of the ladder - a lot of new sgs showed up...(I think there is still a match listed for ESK).
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I cannot speak about every team. I can only speak about what I experienced on test. I started out with PCJL which was a team from Champion and I was friends with one of the leaders. I had to do internals and practice with them for quite some time before officially being allowed to join the team. When I left them I had to try out for PE. When I left PE I had to try out for A.S.S. I posted on the boards before ever finally making it to test that I was lft and not one single person sent me a p.m. They didn't know if I was good, sucked or whatever at that point. Now of course all of this was before Hank formed his team. I suppose had his team been in existance when I started on test maybe it would have been easier to get in. The only experience I had with a test team offering spots on their team was Ressurection when it first started when I joined(and I played on Champion with both the leaders and knew both of them) and Renegades when they asked me to join after Res fell apart. Scooping up what was left of Res was probably just a tactic to try to rebuild the lack of villain pvp on the ladder on part of the Renegades.
New pvpr's needs to be the focus when we create events/leagues/ladders. Or we could just keep fighting the same 16-25 people on Freedom day in and day out. That is bound to get boring. If we don't find a way to entice new people to join the community that is exactly what we will be stuck with.
Yanno what I am thinking. I am thinking that any type of organized competitive pvp that isn't just the same 10-20 people fighting each other every night should be fun and appreciated. I know I am looking forward to it. The great thing about test was logging in for practice and knowing that some other team was willing to do matches. Knowing that there were other like minded teams that just wanted to pvp. Win , lose, or draw.
Sharks aren't the problem - its the **** damage modifer changes that make Flurry more damaging than Blaze.
Putting a rule in to 'Fix' the broken things wrong with PvP 2.0 is not good.
You should only ban powers that can be exploited, and an 8-man-stalker-shark-spike isn't an exploit.
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Originally Posted by macskull
Can we also ban the sleep proc, TK (especially the Defender version), Heat Loss, Shiver, Flashfire, Stalagmites, Fossilize (the Tanker epic power), Vengeance, Heat Exhaustion, hold/stun procs, Ball Lightning, Stunning Shot, Screech, Power Boost (because of PB'd mezzes), double phase builds, Taunt and related powers, Neurotoxic Breath, and any knockback power with enough mag to get through Acro?
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...but why Ball Lightning? O_o
Note: As of now, no powers are banned. Potential banned powers and lineup restrictions will be discussed by team captains before the start of the league.
I'm more than willing to help captain a team, even if it is noobs. I am here to PvP and have a good time, if that requires me to start my own SG, after last night, I am more than happy to comply.
As far as bannable power I think throwing around bans before we even talk it out would be dumb. I agree with what empire said, we need to only ban powers that if used provide such a leg up on the competition it isn't funny (vengeance stacking). Because I think storm teams were slightly overpowered back in the day, but they weren't banned - teams just had to play smarter is all.
I think this discussion should get back to The League and the discussion about "banned" powers should be done in it's proper thread
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I think dUmb teams were slightly overpowered back in the day, but they weren't banned - teams just had to play sMrter is all.
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Infinity and Victory mostly
dUmb, etc.
lolz PvP anymore, Market PvP for fun and profit
I'll captain as well...one exception...i get barrier. jk jk
But don't blame me if i show up with a bunch of scrappers from RV...cause the pool is kind of small to pick from.
lol TEEM Fiteclubberz Unitted
Psoma..you on anybody's team??? Cause i got liberty (he does not know it yet) and i need another emp.....
If dUmb is actually fielding a team, I'd be with them...unless we're actively trying to spread out the pool of vets a bit or whatever. I posted on the dUmb GP to see if there was a plan. If there isn't one, then yeah, I'm free.
dUmb needs to bring a teeeeeaaaammmm!!!!
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corrs afaik ball lightninig does pve dmg in pvp and pvp dmg in pve = making this AoE not so garbage.
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Psoma..you on anybody's team??? Cause i got liberty (he does not know it yet) and i need another emp.....
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8 emps FTWz
Infinity and Victory mostly
dUmb, etc.
lolz PvP anymore, Market PvP for fun and profit
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dUmb needs to bring a teeeeeaaaammmm!!!!
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Infinity and Victory mostly
dUmb, etc.
lolz PvP anymore, Market PvP for fun and profit
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Noo, dUmbies got Lib >.<
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Psoma..you on anybody's team??? Cause i got liberty (he does not know it yet) and i need another emp.....
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dUmb ftw!
So based on what's been flying around dUmb will be running 8-Emp lineups.
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Sounds dUmb enough to work. Actually, let's get some line-up discussions under way at the GP site. <3
we're h4xing emp/storms as we speak
Trance your stalker has absorb pain, right?
Infinity and Victory mostly
dUmb, etc.
lolz PvP anymore, Market PvP for fun and profit
All servers now have advertising posts up so go to your home servers and get people to sign up!
I should bring back T.I.T.S.
I don't think we're in disagreement. Like I said, I think this is an admirable attempt at growing PvP, and you helped clarify some things-thank you. I think the biggest problem all leagues face here is the lack of people willing to captain; to be decent at it, it takes a combination of knowledge, time, and patient which few people have. When you consider that the overall reward everyone got for those types of efforts in the past was freakin' i13, you can see why people are so reluctant to keep putting themselves out.