PVPEC: The League

Well then, to be fair. People running the league or making the rules shouldn't be participating in it. That causes biases to form. I mean really, just listening to some of this drama and I can already tell that some people are favoring certain teams because of their own bias then randomly making (or editing) the rules to fit their own objective. I dunno but something sounds wrong here.

PS. I just reactivated my account. Can I join?

You should've pulled a Fates and became -Aiva...

But we all know how well that worked out.

Thank you, silit.

I mean honestly with a global like Detective Silit this cant possibly be a surprise.

PS - Grats Silit on losing your D6 pick. ROFL. Srs bsns.

I've seen little if any actual bias so far, and no rules have been edited without votes from captains. However, controversy often stems from rumor rather than fact, and rumor is clearly aplenty. For the purposes of credible and visible integrity, Avid is absolutely right.

This of course is why I talked to the other team leaders about proposing a rule that would disallow PvPEC reps who are on teams from acting as PvPEC reps. Every leader I talked to was in full support of this measure.

The main practical issue that would arise is in lineup submission. We will need to secure the help of PvPEC reps who are not affiliated with teams to assist in the lineup submission process.

From what I can tell there is actually some bias. Fates came back to play with the people he was friends with - he changed his global to avoid any drama around being "fates." Keenon missed signing up and was not around for a few weeks to get on d8. He wanted to play with Rick's team as well and both of these things were discussed with Peril by Rick (including telling Peril that -fifa was fates). He was told it would not be a problem, Keenon was told it would not be a problem, Rick same thing. Keenon and Fates have been practicing with Ricks team, getting pls and in the case of fates getting a toon ioed out for league play. I like both people but If I am captain I am really not going to turn over 3 billion in ios to get a toon ready to play for someone else's team or discuss team ideas.

Day of the second draft Peril announces U2BG is good on D6 players and does need any more but suddenly placing people was turned to a draft and Rick's team is last to pick (odd that one of the teams with the least amount of d6 players get last pick?) and suddenly U2BG picks up Fates. Peril the PVPEC member has passed that information along to Silit the team captain. U2BG had third pick...pretty sure if the two before that team knew they probably would have picked him up.

I am sure people will think "well your just mad you didn't get fates," and you would miss the point. Fates really only signed up becuaes he was told he could play with Rick's team. If someone was going to not honor that and make it all a draft then he should have told all the captains who fates was. Instead he chose to tell his team only, information that was given to him as a organizer of the event.

oh my gad it's tanzie

And who are you? Another 16 year old trying to be tough on the internet?

No, don't give him too much credit, it's just vert.

First off, rules not being bent to accommodate your own team isn't evidence of bias.

Second, U2BG picked 4th, not third - and your team picked 5th, not last.

Third, I didn't hear about Fates from Peril. He was surprised that I knew at all. As for selectivity, every other captain save for Kat knew that Fates was in the draft. Atop that, even if Peril was the one who told me it wouldn't matter. True identities of draft picks aren't classified information by any stretch.

Fourth, accusations that drafting order was a conspiracy are flimsy at best.

Fifth, regarding claims that Peril received the information only because he was an event organizer: You yourself know that to be false. Your team was upset with Rick for disclosing the information at all, long before the draft took place.

Sixth, it was well known that the allocation of late signups would most likely be in draft format. When team leaders couldn't agree on a way to determine a fair order, random numbers were assigned.

I'm not going to hold a player on my team against his will. I will discuss trading Fates if he wants to be traded. In the meantime, be constructive. Instead of legitimate efforts to get a trade in the works, contact between leaders has been in the forms of malicious trash talk mixed with flaunting of accomplishments that bear no significance. These have been followed by rushed attempts at forcing a trade by means such as bribery (Yes, Lol. I've been offered influence for the trade), and attempting to guilt trip me into thinking I'm a jailer.

Accusations of foul play and conspiracy are laughable. Forum wars are even more useless. After I talk with Fates I'll talk with you guys.

DETECTIVE Silit.

If you noticed someone mysteriously disappear from your global.

If you read the forums you still have membership to where Fates goes "Hey guys, I'm coming back to CoH".

If there was someone named @-Fifa, the same EXACT first letter and generally the same amount of letters.

I hate Silit just as much as the next guy, but you've got to give him some credit.

And really make it less obvious next time.

Bringing up an old post... From what I can tell of the last draft, this did not happen. What did happen was this: captains were given an option to choose additional players if they wanted more. Everyone that didn't get picked (those with poor builds from what I can tell) was told better luck next time. So much for the purpose of this event.

how can you bend rules that are not in place? Again Rick's team was assured by Peril that Fates and Keenon would be placed on his team. The only reason fates signed up, the only reason you got the option to pick him. Miss talked to every other captain - no one knew it was fates so your source appears to be very selective in telling you who he was.

If Peril did tell you it does matter - he should have told all the captains. Your telling me the three teams who picked before you passed on the fates..and that you picked him soley because you thought he would be a good pick. Why are you so willing to trade him if you picked him for that reason?

it's not an accusation of foul play or conspiracy. You said you have not seen evidence of bias, I disagree.

If you were never on somone's Global then you can't drop

I assume you mean os's forums and he never posted that.

So your telling me he figured out @-Fifa was @-Fates because they both had the letter F in it? He needs his own show on CBS!

I don't hate anyone Hot, but you can't paint a turd gold and sell it for cash.

That's not how I figured it out. And yes, every team other than Kat's was well aware. Believe it or not, I could care less.

i'm 16 and i still dont sound like tanzie lmao

corny white kid, said scribe?

Perhaps valid. 2 problems with that though. First of all neither of us were associated with the League when the rules were made. They were made before any teams signed up. Second of all it takes a Captain vote from each of the 6 (SIX) teams, and all 6 must be in agreement for a vote change to happen. There have been no random edits or making of votes since they were posted in their original form, so not sure where you got that from.

Wrong. The draft was closed. We decided and posted that some additional late signups "might" be allowed on whatever teams needed them. We were doing the teams and late signups a favor by possibly giving them the opportunity to have a chance to participate in something they were already too late to sign up for. The actual event and draft was open to absolutely everyone. It is no ones fault but their own for not signing up on time.

Sadly some people that wanted to participate won't get to. We can't very well leave the draft open forever so it is what it is. We also cannot make team captains pick players in a draft that was an additional draft. In the original draft EVERYONE was picked whether team captains wanted them or not.

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It doesn't matter if you were associated with the league when the rules were made. The fact that you are now is the issue. I haven't been following this since the beginning so I don't know the exacts but if any of what I said is true. Then you have a problem.

As for the draft, if there are any late sign-ups, they should either A) all be allowed/drafted or B) none of them.

Perhaps. Six teams and six captains have the right to make any motion they want. If any of them want to, they will. Only takes all 6 to be in aggreement to change things.

As far as the draft, already done and apparently the 6 team captains didn't feel that way or one would have asked for it to be done differently.