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You're a furry, aren't you, JadeTora?
I don't know about the furry part but it seems obvious from JadeTora's last post that the only person in the thread who is uptight and hypocritical is the OP him/her/itself.


 

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I don't know about the furry part but it seems obvious from JadeTora's last post that the only person in the thread who is uptight and hypocritical is the OP him/her/itself.
well, obviously the people that the OP refers to are so uptight that they refuse to associate with us forum scum, so wont post in this thread.


 

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You're a furry, aren't you, JadeTora?
i saw an Angel Furry on Champion the other day. Funny thing is she had no animal features at all.

So far i've seen some "uptightness" expressed, but the only real hypocrisy has been from the OP.

Personally i'm fine with MRP, but prefer to keep my ERP RL. IMO it's much more fun that way.
Still, i don't care what two consenting adults do out of my line if sight, or even in it most times, as long as they don't assume i'll play along.


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i saw an Angel Furry on Champion the other day. Funny thing is she had no animal features at all.

So far i've seen some "uptightness" expressed, but the only real hypocrisy has been from the OP.

Personally i'm fine with MRP, but prefer to keep my ERP RL. IMO it's much more fun that way.
Still, i don't care what two consenting adults do out of my line if sight, or even in it most times, as long as they don't assume i'll play along.
Perhaps they meant fury.

Or maybe they misspelled both words and meant to type Angle Fury! Behold the furious angles!


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Behold the furious angles!
bAss, don't be obtuse.



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Originally Posted by Sailboat View Post
bAss, don't be obtuse.


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No ones better than anyone else is what I'm getting at. So why act like this?
Taking this out of context, will lead me to disagree. Some people are better than others. No, we are not all equal.

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As for it being a Teen Rated game, yes.. But again, consenting adults should be allowed to do what they want to do in private, notice I'm specifically mentioning in private because I do agree that public ERP is just.. Not right.. It's a Teen rated game, yes and it's not appropriate when there may be younger players or RPers around but in private who is it hurting? I think perhaps even the gms and mods may agree with me on that term, if it's kept private then it's not a big deal.
Whether it is public or private is irrelevant. This is a Teen rated game, yes, but more importantly, this is not a public arena where our "rights" are held... It is a private venue owned completely by Paragon Studios. They, and not us, get to decide what is and isn't allowed. In so saying, we as players do not have the right to say whatever we want, regardless of "consent" status, or any other factor. They make the rules, period. So, this particular point is moot.

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I suppose I'm less prudish about it than others.
And here, apparently, is where the hypocrisy comes in, eh? You are asking people not to judge one another, but then you imply that those who disagree with you are prudes? Nice.

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Again, my thing is that I don't understand the high and mighty attitude in relations to this. Why cause a lot of drama insulting and berating someone for something they're doing in private?
Perhaps the issue comes down to age. If most of the players of this game are 20+ (which you claim, but I have no actual idea about) then most folks did not grow up accustomed to full internet dating, much less pretendy sex. I know I still get weird looks from my peers that I met my BF online. And I am only 27. So, it may just be an age gap issue.

However, to interject just a touch of my own opinion on this issue, for once, I do have to agree with the above poster who said it is just weird for folks to be pretending to be opposite genders + or - 20 years of their true age, and in some cases differing orientations, and then making pretendy sex with superheroes in a pocket dimensional nightclub... I swear, that that was so NOT the developers' intended purpose for this game.



 

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So if you went out to a nightclub looking to score, would you wear a sign announcing "I'm looking to score?" No? Then why would you put "ERP welcome" in your character bio? Makes no sense to me. It's an open invitation to any frustrated 13-year-old (actual or emotional age) to hit on you in horribly mutilated English. This says to me that you are either a) desperate (and therefore probably actually or emotionally 13 years old yourself) or b) an attention-[censored]. Either way, if I were actually interested in participating in any kind of ERP, you would be the LAST person I'd do it with.

MRP is completely different, if by MRP you actually mean "mature, may offend some people" and aren't using it as a euphemism for ERP. If your villain's backstory revolves around watching a serial killer rampaging through the orphanage you grew up in, it's just a courtesy. Unfortunately too many people use "Mature" as a euphemism for ERP, thereby showing that they aren't.


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So would making an avatar with a copy Dominatrix's costume and the name "Granddaddy's Girl" be a more subtle way of letting people know what sort of RP you were interested in?


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So would making an avatar with a copy Dominatrix's costume and the name "Granddaddy's Girl" be a more subtle way of letting people know what sort of RP you were interested in?
Brain bleach please.

edit: Might I suggest the super-adventure club since we're going down that route?


 

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Well stated, Thirty-Seven. You hit the nail on the head with most of your points.

Perhaps I missed this as well from another post, but such behavior (as in chat anyone can see, not in private channels or tells) is definitely against the EULA. I also believe Castle just posted on a thread about this a week or so ago, saying if you "see" this kind of thing, it should be reported.

NCSoft makes the rules for the game, and such is against the rules. There are good reasons for those rules, as well.


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Well stated, Thirty-Seven. You hit the nail on the head with most of your points.

Perhaps I missed this as well from another post, but such behavior (as in chat anyone can see, not in private channels or tells) is definitely against the EULA. I also believe Castle just posted on a thread about this a week or so ago, saying if you "see" this kind of thing, it should be reported.

NCSoft makes the rules for the game, and such is against the rules. There are good reasons for those rules, as well.

Do you think that recent dev post might be the real motive behind the OP making this thread. Trying to drum up public support for behaviour the devs have said should be reported.


 

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Do you think that recent dev post might be the real motive behind the OP making this thread. Trying to drum up public support for behaviour the devs have said should be reported.
It could also be the season, oddly; I don't know why but I never come across ERP in this game, except during the Winter Event, when it always seems to occur in the Ski Lodge. Now admittedly I don't hang around under Atlas, but still it has always made me wonder what it is about the Ski Lodge that has ensured that every single year I've logged in since I started playing, I've found people around the bar cybering.

And as others have already mentioned, for a supposedly "mature" audience, the ERPers have an incredibly immature understanding of Erotic.

Because firstly, unless someone is attracted to you, your being openly Erotic is anything but; it becomes tacky, creepy, uncomfortable. No, talking about sex doesn't make you sexy. And saying "I've done X!", even if passers-by like X, and want X soon, doesn't make you sexy either if they Don't Want X Unexpectedly From You. That's just the way it is; If you want people to think of you as a brave, adventurous Knight, you go and play a fantasy MMO or LARP where there's a space ready for nurturing that little illusion... you don't run through a shopping mall dressed as a Knight, because people there will think you are just a pillock. And likewise, if you want to be erotic, either find an erotic themed game, or make a private setting somewhere where all the participants can agree on that theme... Don't expect to be able to say "Gawd your boobs look hot in that shirt" in the Ski Lodge and for everyone else to do anything but cringe at your lack of understanding...

And secondly, Erotica, like all illusion, requires skill in weaving the setting from just words and simple deeds. As the great Monty Python explained, "we have all these possibilities before we stampede towards the clitoris!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTMlZSKEu-Y

So as already mentioned, another reason people cringe at so much ERP is because it's just so erotically inept. The above line about boobs is a genuine quote, being overheard at the Union Ski Lodge on Christmas Eve; they went on for about 10 minutes in that vein whilst I was rummaging through the candy rewards. And even putting aside that it's the avatars boobs, and they all are perfectly formed, and shaped to taste in this game, even then there was no attempt made to try and tailor the description to the hopes or needs of the person behind the character, no understanding of how to develop mood, no pacing or build up, and no element of personal engagement or confessional for the experience beyond the dumb "Boobs are hot!"... any old boob instead would do, I guess? But how is that "Erotic"? Indeed, where's the role playing when you might as well have just pressed the "Random Skank" option to get GenericBoobs to point at? Is that what "Sex" is to some of you, two voyeurs pointing at an image and comparing notes on it's "hotness"? Oh dear...

And to answer Golden Girls question, in as T-Rated way as I can, it probably wouldn't let people know what kind of RP you were looking for with such a character, because you've mixed up 2 usually quite distinct roles there; it's very rare for Granddad's Girl to be the Dominatrix as well... so I'd approach that character expecting the attitudes of the person behind it to be more interested in exhibitionism and attention seeking to be honest, as it says to me "Look at these shocking images I've chosen without understanding"... but then I'd talk to them to find out what they were aiming for or actually like as a person. It really is not just about the packaging and the doing of it in public y'know folks...


 

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Oddly enough, we also got more griefing in the PD Chalet during the hols than I've seen all the rest of the year.
Maybe all that snow and cold makes peoples brains go a bit funny?


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And to answer Golden Girls question, in as T-Rated way as I can, it probably wouldn't let people know what kind of RP you were looking for with such a character, because you've mixed up 2 usually quite distinct roles there; it's very rare for Granddad's Girl to be the Dominatrix as well... so I'd approach that character expecting the attitudes of the person behind it to be more interested in exhibitionism and attention seeking to be honest, as it says to me "Look at these shocking images I've chosen without understanding"... but then I'd talk to them to find out what they were aiming for or actually like as a person. It really is not just about the packaging and the doing of it in public y'know folks...
I mean the Dominatrix


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{You have selected the standard response to either Cybering, Furries, or Pedos}

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When were you all elected to judge others?

when we logged on, lol

So much analyzing going on, had to crack a joke.


 

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Mainly because of an illogical fear that the hot female avatar you are ERPing with might be controlled by another 47 year old male, such as myself

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Mainly because of an illogical fear that the hot female avatar you are ERPing with might be controlled by another 47 year old male, such as myself

BRAIN BLEACH STAT!!!!!11!
Proof of sex available in request ^_^.


 

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What are all these acronyms? I don't know em', but keep it Teen rated. That is how this game is rated and governed.
Which means keep the MRP and ERP out of channels and areas where people that are playing this game that aren't even teenagers can see ... and there are some young children playing this game.

Remember other people can can see word balloons if there are word balloons regardless if they are monitoring that channel or not.

How are people going to mock a MRP'r/ERP'r if they don't know you are MRP'ing or ERP'ing?

Is this PvRP or RPvRP?

How does anyone know that the character that they are MRP'ing or ERP'ing is of legal age for that kind of behavior on-line?

Sounds like a can of worms was just opened.


 

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Proof of sex available in request ^_^.
You think you know me?


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You think you know me?
I meant on request...but no. I probably don't know you. I just like to go "LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME!"